Training 2023 Pre Season

[ESDR]

Any track watchers? Are Ro, Hunter and Phillipou on the track this morning?

 

[DougalHoward]

Who are these campaigners

 

[Dard Ball Get]

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Who are these campaigners

Nedd Brockman and a skinny version of George?

 

[Fehring]

LD defender probably undersells them, Patton has been spending some time on a wing in recent training sessions and has shown he can play with flare when he gives a bit of dash but that was largely missing from his game last year.

I agree that Paton - and Webster - can counter attack but their main role has been lock down. They haven’t played the Sinclair/Clark/Hill role and would not be as good at it.

Paton on yhe wing is interesting. DMAC may not be ready for round 1, but even then it would be Paton v Mason Wood.

 

[phantom13]

We get more out of playing 2 rucks then we do playing Cordy forward IMO.

I’d definitely consider Battle going forward for a month but it doesn’t sound likely

Its Tom Campbell yeh? So Ro Ro playing predominantly forward and Campbell more rucking?

If hes fit and healthy to do that im not against it but if Campbell has to play more foward id rather Cordy do it and chop out in the ruck if needed.

 

[Cairnsman]

I agree that Paton - and Webster - can counter attack but their main role has been lock down. They haven’t played the Sinclair/Clark/Hill role and would not be as good at it.

Paton on yhe wing is interesting. DMAC may not be ready for round 1, but even then it would be Paton v Mason Wood.

I think the wings will be NWM and Hill even though Nas has been training off half back as its getting too crowded down there with Coff returning. NWM will be between HB and wing is my guess and Wood will play between HF and wing just becaue he's a goal scorer and has the perfect athletic profile for that part of the ground and two way running. To get a gig in the forward line during the injury crisis it will be proven goal kickers only need apply. I don't think Sharman gets a gig just because he's tall as he's still a fair way off the pace. I think we'll go with a medium to small forward line with proven scorers to exploit out new Ferrrari game plan.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Possibly but that's the problem with a list lacking significant depth of talent, we would barely have 4 players who could have played in Geelongs flag. So different arguments really. Webster at the moment would easily be automatically picked in our best side, that's why we are rebuilding.

You are a bit tough on our list IMO.

I suggest there would be many more players capable of making the side -

Marshall vs Stanley
Sinclair vs Duncan
Hill vs Z Guthrie
Wilkie vs Kolodjashnij
King vs Rohan
Battle vs Henry
Steele vs C Guthrie
Crouch vs Selwood
Ross vs Atkins
Gresham vs Myers
Butler vs Close
Paton s Bews
Ross vs Holmes

It just the rest of Geelongs team are basically All Australians - Stewart, Hawkins, Cameron, Stengle, Dangerfield, Blicavs, Touhy, Smith then De Koning who is a young freak.

We need 7 or 8 players to go to that level and the rest to be good average soldiers.

 

[George]

Nedd Brockman and a skinny version of George?

Should see the beard on me these days, nothing like that bit of bum fluff on whoever he is (NWM??). Career path is set for him already.

 

[Parkysp]

I heard they had specialised torture scenarios for each player. Hunter had a gym, Membrey had to kick inside 50, Max King had to do set shots for the full 96 hours

I heard they played the Gold Coast song over and over.
Not from a rivalry perspective just the torture of listening to a show tune over and over again....

 

[#gosaintas]

I think the wings will be NWM and Hill even though Nas has been training off half back as its getting too crowded down there with Coff returning. NWM will be between HB and wing is my guess and Wood will play between HF and wing just becaue he's a goal scorer and has the perfect athletic profile for that part of the ground and two way running. To get a gig in the forward line during the injury crisis it will be proven goal kickers only need apply. I don't think Sharman gets a gig just because he's tall as he's still a fair way off the pace. I think we'll go with a medium to small forward line with proven scorers to exploit out new Ferrrari game plan.

Sharman will get a fwd gig unless injured I reckon

 

[SteeleSaints]

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I was wondering that myself - they dont look young enough to be academy players, perhaps they are Sandringham fill ins?

 

[bird_man]

Both played 20 last year and while I’m no mathematician that probably means they played a lot of games together. Don’t think it’s a “one or the other” situation with Paton and Webster at all.

That was with no Coffield and very little of Clark

Coff may take a bit of time to get going again after another setback but it’s going to be tough to fit them all in even if they are all different types.

I’m more than happy for both Paton and Webster to be there round one, but if it does come down to one or the other than form will be the deciding factor I’d imagine

 

[hangdog]

I heard they had specialised torture scenarios for each player. Hunter had a gym, Membrey had to kick inside 50, Max King had to do set shots for the full 96 hours

Dougal was chained to the goal post and had to watch everyone else take kick outs.

 

[SteeleSaints]

Was there an open training at the club this morning? Be interested to see how Caminiti looks on the track?

 

[bird_man]

Its Tom Campbell yeh? So Ro Ro playing predominantly forward and Campbell more rucking?

If hes fit and healthy to do that im not against it but if Campbell has to play more foward id rather Cordy do it and chop out in the ruck if needed.

Probably around a 50-50 split.

In terms of the role as a forward, Campbell and Cordy have a pretty similar output so I’d be going for the guy that gives us something in the ruck.

We just need a big target to help the likes of Sharman and Membrey.

 

[Desperate saint]

Membrey will need to be in career best form to start the season to give us a threatening avenue to score. We have some decent small forwards but without someone to compete in the air and at least half those contests, it will make it harder for them to get involved.

Sharman has to be the one to compete in the Air -has put on some size and has a good leap

Sharman will get a fwd gig unless injured I reckon

agree lets see if he can play at this level once and for all

 

[phantom13]

Probably around a 50-50 split.

In terms of the role as a forward, Campbell and Cordy have a pretty similar output so I’d be going for the guy that gives us something in the ruck.

We just need a big target to help the likes of Sharman and Membrey.

To each their own but i dont think they have a similar output at all. Campbell is about half a goal a game and Cordy is like .1 goal a game but one is a proper full blown ruck and the other has been a career backman. Cordy for me will provide a better contest and we can play him like a forward for our decent smalls to crumb off. Campbell isnt likely to give as much in that regard.

To be honest both are pretty lipstick on a pig options but i prefer Cordy swapping with Ro than Campbell and Ro.

 

[bird_man]

To each their own but i dont think they have a similar output at all. Campbell is about half a goal a game and Cordy is like .1 goal a game but one is a proper full blown ruck and the other has been a career backman. Cordy for me will provide a better contest and we can play him like a forward for our decent smalls to crumb off. Campbell isnt likely to give as much in that regard.

To be honest both are pretty lipstick on a pig options but i prefer Cordy swapping with Ro than Campbell and Ro.

I mean a similar output playing in that role.

I don’t know the overall stats of either playing forward but I’ve watched a lot of footy and both seem to have a similar output when played forward.

Cordy for example played forward in 2016 and averaged less than a goal a game. He’s also spent other periods of his career at that end of the ground.

The advantage of playing Campbell though is that it gives the option of Marshall forward a lot more than with Cordy and Marshall is ahead of both in that area.

Having two 200cm rotating in the forward 50 is going to help as a lot more than having Cordy sitting there IMO, but as you say each to their own.

My first option would be Battle but I see that as unlikely atm

 

[phantom13]

I mean a similar output playing in that role.

I don’t know the overall stats of either playing forward but I’ve watched a lot of footy and both seem to have a similar output when played forward.

Cordy for example played forward in 2016 and averaged less than a goal a game. He’s also spent other periods of his career at that end of the ground.

The advantage of playing Campbell though is that it gives the option of Marshall forward a lot more than with Cordy and Marshall is ahead of both in that area.

Having two 200cm rotating in the forward 50 is going to help as a lot more than having Cordy sitting there IMO, but as you say each to their own.

My first option would be Battle but I see that as unlikely atm

I dont want Battle disrupted again.

Cordy/Campbell is a wash to me, i have a preference but either is fine (and certainly better than Sharman or Membs at FF) but keep Battle back thanks.

 

[bird_man]

I dont want Battle disrupted again.

Cordy/Campbell is a wash to me, i have a preference but either is fine (and certainly better than Sharman or Membs at FF) but keep Battle back thanks.

I don’t see the harm in having him play a month forward. It may go the other way and we realise that that’s his best position.

Let’s be honest, he’s been solid as a defender but he’s hardly elite. He mostly takes the oppositions third best tall so he’s still not yet trusted to play a genuine key defender role.

Putting him back into defence was the best thing for him, especially the way Rattej used him in his time, but times have changed.

 

[DougalHoward]

Nedd Brockman and a skinny version of George?

Thought it was the train on kid Caminiti.

Was there an open training at the club this morning? Be interested to see how Caminiti looks on the track?

They're on a training camp

 

[phantom13]

I don’t see the harm in having him play a month forward. It may go the other way and we realise that that’s his best position.

Let’s be honest, he’s been solid as a defender but he’s hardly elite. He mostly takes the oppositions third best tall so he’s still not yet trusted to play a genuine key defender role.

Putting him back into defence was the best thing for him, especially the way Rattej used him in his time, but times have changed.

Yeh, ive had this discussion with others but i just dont agree. Howard gets the best big man, Battle more often than not gets next. Wilkie gets the best small/mid sized and Battle was sensational against the best forward when Dougal got injured.

Weve ****ed him around for like 4 years, hes settled now, hes playing really good footy (which many are underrating) and hes good coming out of defence.

Its just my opinion, ultimately whetver works for us until King gets back im fine with but Battle going forward is my least preferred, plus if we dont think hes big enough or good enough to be a true KPD (i dont think that true by the way) then im not sure how he is to be a KPF so Sharman or Membrey may as well just do it.

 

[Saints TV]

Was there an open training at the club this morning? Be interested to see how Caminiti looks on the track?

Took a good grab

 

[Saintos The ITK]

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Who are these campaigners

Sam Gilbert and Gears.

 

[bird_man]

Yeh, ive had this discussion with others but i just dont agree. Howard gets the best big man, Battle more often than not gets next. Wilkie gets the best small/mid sized and Battle was sensational against the best forward when Dougal got injured.

Weve ****ed him around for like 4 years, hes settled now, hes playing really good footy (which many are underrating) and hes good coming out of defence.

Its just my opinion, ultimately whetver works for us until King gets back im fine with but Battle going forward is my least preferred, plus if we dont think hes big enough or good enough to be a true KPD (i dont think that true by the way) then im not sure how he is to be a KPF so Sharman or Membrey may as well just do it.

That’s just not true.

Battle played on Miocek round one and was well beaten. After that Wilkie almost always played on the second tall.

Against Geelong for example it was Wilkie that went to Cameron and Howard to Hawkins.

I really can’t see how a month as a forward isn’t going to derail his career. Picking the best side to get off to a good start to the season is what we really should be looking at.