My initial guestimate last week was 70-80K but I reckon it'll top 80K
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My initial guestimate last week was 70-80K but I reckon it'll top 80K
If the AFL was smart they would have fixtured Hawks v Swans for Round 24 last year and Buddy’s last game may have cracked 70/80k as well.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but you will also remember that he didnt actually play in round 24.
I for one had a wonderful trip to Sydney to watch Melbourne win and applaud Buddy around the ground at half time.
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I would suggest that St Kilda has the least interstate support of any Victorian team.
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There are tickets on Ebay, level 4 going for $140 each and they have 24 bids on them. Easily going to get over 80k. I know it's a bit later than the traditional 2:10pm, but Saturday footy is still king.
There are tickets on Ebay, level 4 going for $140 each and they have 24 bids on them. Easily going to get over 80k. I know it's a bit later than the traditional 2:10pm, but Saturday footy is still king.
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Can we please stop making assertions like this without evidence?
Average interstate away crowds for Victorian teams since 2000:
Coll - 35,598
Ess - 32,743
Haw - 32,247
Carl - 31,104
Geel - 30,987
Rich - 30,499
WB - 28,506
StK - 28,384
Melb - 28,018
NM - 27,774
The 4.30 timeslot draws pretty well, families can watch the whole game, people who play sport in the afternoon can make it
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Saints have a good sized support down here in Tassie as well
The crowd figure was probably more to do with the Lions' form this year.
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Makes sense given they played there for years.
Bit like how Dogs have a bit of support around Cairns and Darwin
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more to do with the great saints of yesteryear. Baldock and Stewart.
The saints hated playing down here and made the short-sighted move to abandon Launny when they were going great in the mid 00's. That allowed the Hawks to dominate the Tassie market, while the saints haven't been able to find that 2nd market most low-mid sized Victorian clubs have
Yes - There are good historical reasons for this, given the likes of the great Daryl Baldock, Brownlow medallist Redon Howell and Team of Century member Barry Lawrence, amongst others, who all played for St Kilda. St Kilda was also the first club to play a couple of home games at Launceston until they very stupidly and shortsightedly gave it up (only to later unsuccessfully try Wellington NZ), thus allowing the Hawks to properly embrace and capitalise on this market.
EDIT - You beat me to these points, lol.
Bendigo is still free for them if they wanted to go there.
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i cheated. Did a quick edit.
No they weren’t, Hawthorn played home games in Launeston two years before St Kilda…
They also were the first club to open up Wellington.
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No they weren’t, Hawthorn played home games in Launeston two years before St Kilda…
They also were the first club to open up Wellington.
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OK - I stand corrected. Let’s just say that St Kilda had the opportunity to make Launceston it’s second home and grow their membership - in a place where it already had a lot of local support - and they stupidly stepped away from it. Hawthorn showed much better judgement in sticking with it, reaping the benefits that came.
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MCC Reserve seating and visitor tickets are SOLD OUT prior to start of Hawks v Tiges. Can almost guarantee the crowd will eclipse 80,000 now.
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In terms of stadium economics, absolutely.
But Hawthorn’s membership in Tasmania has actually gone backward over the last 15 years (despite total membership jumping from 55,000 to 85-90,000).
There has been little fan development in Tasmania for Hawthorn - and why should there be? Tasmania is a traditional football state with generations of entrenched support.
It would be interesting to see the Saints membership numbers in Tasmania; it's plausible that it could represent a higher proportion of total membership than Hawthorn (about 9k out of 85k).
Who knows, perhaps Richmond now has more members in Tasmania than Hawthorn?
When the Saints went to Tasmania (in 2002), they had the lowest membership in Victoria. When they left in 2006, they had the fourth-highest crowd in the AFL.
Hawthorn went to Tasmania to avoid Docklands matches and negotiate more MCG home and away games (which they failed to do) - it was never just financial. St Kilda went there (like the Dogs, North and Dees) for financial reasons, with MCG games never on the table (until now).
The difference for the Saints was that they were drawing crowds large enough to justify returning to the games under Grant Thomas.
So if they went to Tasmania to make up a shortfall, and they were making bank on dozens of Friday and Saturday Night games at the Dome. Why would they stay in Launceston?
Which begs the question, why haven't the Saints crowds ever returned to 2004-06 levels (even in 2008-12)
My suspicion is probably thanks to Ross Lyon killing the vibe and coaching the most dour football imaginable.
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Still 1700 above the average for the two at Docklands.
Fox Footy saying they’ve hit 89,000 now at the MCG.
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