Strategy 2025 Flex Spot Discussion & Strategy

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What happens if your flex players score is lower than on field players score??

What happens if your flex player scores less than on field player??

The Flex position is an on-field scorer ....not a bench player

You have 23 scorers now, with the worst score dropping off ....so you get best 22 scores every week outside the byes where we get best 18 ....which means in the bye rounds, your 5 worst scores fall off

 

[dabombers]

You know that moment when you realise that you may have created a monster. Today was that day for me.

Like a horse breaking down on the track, I am thinking about putting a tent around the “Premo Ruck Flex” spot idea and doing the humane thing and putting a bullet in it.

Played around with a few structures while leaving say $600k left for a premo flex, still thinking maybe a flex ruck.

Did a trade count down to get team to full premo and just added all the premo’s I want for a full season no matter what.

So backline was 3 with Flanders, Sheezel, Sinclair and Ryan.

Mids are Bont, Daicos, Butters and Zerret, (bugger the byes - BTB’s; comes back later for the change in my mind on Ruck Flex)

Rucks just going Gawn and Xerri

And finally fwds where there are no Premo’s - reason is I cant see many going higher than $500k unless DPP changes so any upgrade is only 2 trades vs the 2.5-3 trades for a 600k player in other positions.

So I have been thinking about just going with a starting team with season Keeper Premo’s even though they have an early bye.

There are so many good MPP’s and Rookies in the DEF and MIDS I want them all. Load up the benches and smack one DPP at M11.
This is my prediction of where cash generation is going to come from.


BTB’s Strategy!!!
Start Sinclair in the Mids to fit them all in and use Flanders as the Flex.

Yeah he has the bye in RD2 but cover that with best 18 and a good mid/def rookie.
Then R3 is Daicos bye, Flanders in and similar bye switch.
And same again with Zerret R4.

Trade wise it could reduce 4-5 trades by RD 12.

Somewhere during upgrade season RD5-12 trade towards a Flex Ruck.

Starting team has:
DEF 4 Premo Keepers & 1 MPP
MID is 4 Premo Keepers and 1 fallen Premo
RUCKS just Gawn and Xerri
FWDS - dead line with just the best I can with remaining cash. Yep I am sacrificing a whole line no player over $320k as they are all crepe at this stage.


So my question to the group now is to save trades and get the best and most Keeper Premo’s after the early byes in the good scoring positions, going from last season was anywhere but FWDS listed this year.
What different ideas have you come up with??

 

[SC fish]

The Flex position is an on-field scorer ....not a bench player

You have 23 scorers now, with the worst score dropping off ....so you get best 22 scores every week outside the byes where we get best 18 ....which means in the bye rounds, your 5 worst scores fall off

I like this! Particularly early-season when rookie lotto is in full swing

 

[SC fish]

I like this! Particularly early-season when rookie lotto is in full swing

I'd have to check but I reckon I woulda won the $50k each of the last few years if it was best 22 out of 23

 

[stevebbb]

The Flex position is an on-field scorer ....not a bench player

You have 23 scorers now, with the worst score dropping off ....so you get best 22 scores every week outside the byes where we get best 18 ....which means in the bye rounds, your 5 worst scores fall off

Great explanation Wayne, it really simplifies it.

 

[Deliverance]

And we have what, about 300k equivalent extra to spend on the flex?

 

[St Steady]

And we have what, about 300k equivalent extra to spend on the flex?

nah

i think the budget is same , but they reduced prices across the board to accomodate the extra player apparently.

 

[Choppers]

nah

i think the budget is same , but they reduced prices across the board to accomodate the extra player apparently.

Agree with this.....it seems they've reduced the magic number from 5590 down to 5386 approx. to get the players price.

 

[dabombers]

Agree with this.....it seems they've reduced the magic number from 5590 down to 5386 approx. to get the players price.

Do you think that this makes starting as many of last seasons top 10 better value per spot?
Or even fitting in a mixture of as many top 10-20 players into starting side, even with extra bye players.

Top 10 scoring last year not all played 23 games some only 21 and their total points scored are all over 2600 points.

11-25 their total points seem to average just above 2500 points.

Then there is a big drop off for averages of players 26-50, where is goes down to around 2290’s, 2 whole games averaging down on the top 20.

The next range 50-100 is roughly around low 2000 points over the season yet games played here and averages get messy.
Thats a loss of 6 games at an average of 100 points per game.

2 points on this.
1. The lower magic number makes the Top 1.3%(top 10) or 2.6%(Top 20) of players better value per $$ spent.


2. The mid band of players.
MidPricers @ say $280-440k.
Are actually overvalued.
This is roughly around 40% of players.

So for every dollar gained via higher averages than the magic number calculation for the rookie priced players which is where cash flow comes from must come from somewhere.

70k+ has been reduced of the top 10 players versus what they would have been priced at the old magic number.

Where the % of 280k to 440k players has reduced by 5% to approximately 35% of total players.

280k and below is almost 50% of all listed players @ 46%

So roughly anyone 440k or above is in the Top 20-25% of players pricing this season.

My previous seasons observations predict the top 2.5% to stay at roughly their same price or rise.
The next 22.5% will fall in price by $50k or more.
And this year the lower band or the last 50% @280k or below may not gain the $150k across the board on all picks made in this range.
Maybe $110k increases is going to be more common except for the rookie guns as long as they average 70+ where they could gain up to 200-250k on starting price. Putting them in the higher range of MidPricer value.

Note:
This hasn’t been calculated or worked out mathematically wise yet.

But the magic number drop to afford an extra player in sides does have an effect on many variables especially rookie or MidPricer price growth, the number of trades to upgrade to an Uber Premium or Keeper and finally the financial effects of the rolling 2-3 round averages and how that much a players price will rise or fall.

 

[Deliverance]

nah

i think the budget is same , but they reduced prices across the board to accomodate the extra player apparently.

Yeah, but we had on average 333k for all the players previously. So with the reduced prices and one extra to buy, you can't buy an extra premo

 

[buttox]

Yeah, but we had on average 333k for all the players previously. So with the reduced prices and one extra to buy, you can't buy an extra premo

Yep the 31st player will be a rookie.

 

[dabombers]

Yep the 31st player will be a rookie.

Or if you trade and boost like I did last season it may be your 21st to 31st players are all rookies most non-playing spuds as well.

 

[Significant]

Big watch on how Saints play Harry Boyd.

With early byes, you may not need a loop, so a playing R3 would be best utilised. Post byes it's likely a rookie would have been dropped or injured by then to loop as well.

If Harry is R only, I doubt anyone would want to be hamstrung with a ruck in their Flex that they can't move anywhere early in the year.

Other option is to put Harry in Flex, but I'm liking the noise about SDK.....

 

[dabombers]

Big watch on how Saints play Harry Boyd.

With early byes, you may not need a loop, so a playing R3 would be best utilised. Post byes it's likely a rookie would have been dropped or injured by then to loop as well.

If Harry is R only, I doubt anyone would want to be hamstrung with a ruck in their Flex that they can't move anywhere early in the year.

Other option is to put Harry in Flex, but I'm liking the noise about SDK.....

Still waiting to see what the SuperCoach Cartel do with Harry Boyd.
If they are kind they will give him the $99k price tag with R/F DPP.
This would be great with rumours about ROMO playing forward more and a possibility to get a R6 DPP added to his Ruck spot.

I am still working out trade plans for who ends up in Flex spot.

Plan A
Is a ruck with the soft midseason bye Rd13.
Thinking of taking a risk on injury prone Shrek.
Heard he has lost a few Kg’s. Which may help his injuries from the past.

Plan B
Is a DEF, MID or DPP DEF/MID.
Start them if DPP in the Mids and use all the Rookie DPP D/M to switch with.

Can make a starting side with 5 keepers in Defence leaving only one upgrade needed saving trades for smashing them all towards the Mids.

Only 2 guys who stand out here to start with are Flanders or Sinclair.

If it becomes a Mid only it would be a fallen Premo Mid like Dawson, Oliver, Parish or another $350k-$550k player.

Trade tracker will work it out.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Flex is poo

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Flex is poo

Rip Bung.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

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Rip Bung.

Phillip is what this kent calls his thighs

 

[VainGlorious]

If I were not so hell-bent on playing a legitimate 3rd ruck in Flex, then a Mid/For or Def/Mid would be the way I’d probably lean.

Covers a couple of lines and makes the team more versatile.

 

[54Dogs]

Seems like the optimal strategy early will be to use it for additional cash gen, with the line it comes from depending on how many rooks / value options appear on each line.

 

[dabombers]

Seems like the optimal strategy early will be to use it for additional cash gen, with the line it comes from depending on how many rooks / value options appear on each line.

I thought the winner of SuperCoach did so by scoring the most points not making the most cash.

 

[stevebbb]

Isn't the only "strategy" picking an extra ruckman? It's just best 22 scores out of 23 now, as long as your flex is a green dot, it does not matter who you have there. Right?

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Isn't the only "strategy" picking an extra ruckman? It's just best 22 scores out of 23 now, as long as your flex is a green dot, it does not matter who you have there. Right?

Yeah, as long as the Flex position outscores your bench rookies that seems the way to use it.

in the end I want either a third premo ruck or a 9th midfielder.

 

[Deliverance]

Isn't the only "strategy" picking an extra ruckman? It's just best 22 scores out of 23 now, as long as your flex is a green dot, it does not matter who you have there. Right?

Does it even matter if it's a ruck?

 

[buttox]

Yep 3 premo rucks ftw!

 

[stevebbb]

Does it even matter if it's a ruck?

For scoring potential. Rucks score very well, often outperforming ultra premo mids.