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They have been bad enough to get dropped. I could count multiple instances where LMac should have been benched but our depth and list has been so poor we opted not to do so.

We also deliberately, never dropped Jack Ziebell once in his later years knowing his form was WAY off and his run as captain was overdue for a change (Probably due to the lack of incumbent leaders; see how rotating our leadership group has been since 2016)

I don't think captains are glorified mascots, they actually should as a bare minimum deliver a standard stat sheet, make 1 effort that affects the momentum of the game, and have a presence on the field that isn't just "I'm the guy who points fingers about positioning and yells a lot to 'man-up'" -- again, as a bare minimum and I don't feel we get any of that in any meaningful way from not 1 captain, but 2!
Oh to have a Ziebell captain in his final year still!

Ziebell in his second last year was top 5 in the league in his position statistically.

Where would you say our current captains place in their respective positions?
 
Oh to have a Ziebell captain in his final year still!

Ziebell in his second last year was top 5 in the league in his position statistically.

Where would you say our current captains place in their respective positions?

Ziebell was only statistically relevant. His actual output was certainly not top 5.
 

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There was an article about it a ways back by champion data (?).

Effective kicks, kicks, intercept possessions and spoils, metres gained, he rated elite in (admittedly from memory).

Was in the champion data AA side IIRC.
 
There was an article about it a ways back by champion data (?).

Effective kicks, kicks, intercept possessions and spoils, metres gained, he rated elite in (admittedly from memory).
Memory serves me well, he was like top notch supercoach also.. but visually, I didn’t see elite
 
Was hoping for some snaps from our media team for this morning's training session but they're probably on overload from the girls winning the granny
 

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