Traded #22: Jake Carlisle - Pt.1 - Traded with some other stuff for pick 5, 24 and a Bird (cont in Part 2)

[Seagrave_Holmes]

He is when he's played like a key forward. Like any forward, all he needs is space and an even contest.

The mark he took for the 8th goal was the best.

 

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

that was some good delivery from our mids there

 

[Fear Boner]

He is when he's played like a key forward. Like any forward, all he needs is space and an even contest.

Kyle reimers kicked 8 goals once too doesn't make him a good foward

 

[Big Fresh]

Not sure about that watch his confidence and ability come back is he's played in his preferred position has worked for Hurley.

It would help him but not the team. We don't need him in defence.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Kyle reimers kicked 8 goals once too doesn't make him a good foward

Against a TAC Cup team.

Carlisle has everything needed to be a solid key forward and has showed multiple times he can do it. FFS Carey did some work with him and was impressed with him. That's good enough for me.

He needs space and the chance to halve a contest. He'll beat most in that situation.

 

[quotemokc]

Reimers would be a handy type of player for us at the moment

 

[yodellinhank]

Kyle reimers kicked 8 goals once too doesn't make him a good foward

He take 18 or so marks the week before?

 

[Gull35]

I love fletch but I didn't want him coming back this year let alone another

Get him to 400 and that's it IMO, it's time to play someone who will be around for a few years.

And I'm sure I'll cop abuse for this but watching Carlise over the last few weeks he seems disinterested and lazy. Perhaps a few games in the VFL?

 

[yodellinhank]

I agree. If we're going part with Carlisle it has to be for something bloody good. I'm saying I doubt it he decides to leave that'll happen, as he is doesn't have as much trade value as we'd like due to the forward experiment.

The bulldogs chasing him story only happened after his form forward late last year.

 

[yodellinhank]

Get him to 400 and that's it IMO, it's time to play someone who will be around for a few years.

Like Fletch

 

[Cosmogramma]

The bulldogs chasing him story only happened after his form forward late last year.

Surprising! But I'll take your word. I was assuming they'd be recruiting him as a KPD.

 

[eth-dog]

Bulldogs have been interested in him for a long time. The story only came out then, but it's been around a while.

 

[Kakkle]

They were initially going to draft him at pick 15.

 

[TheFrenchCut]

They were initially going to draft him at pick 15.

But then Howard was there!

 

[daffo]

Haha. Howard.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Gotta persist with him I think. It also usually keeps the best defender away from Daniher which is a good thing at this stage. He's simply not ready to lead the line.

I've quoted some stats before. In JC's last 13 games he's averaged 6.1 marks and 2.1 goals. For all his average games - and that's a few - on top of the woeful system and delivery he's played in, the guy is tracking as a 50 goal a year forward. We haven't had one of them since Lloyd.

We set up right and get him some clean ball and contests, he'll flourish. He's certainly not problem, since halfway through last year he's been a bloody good forward.

 

[jnrburger]

Freo and cats both sniffing around for KPDs.... What would be the trade for either of those teams?

 

[quotemokc]

Freo and cats both sniffing around for KPDs.... What would be the trade for either of those teams?

Give freo carlisle for Hill and Walters

 

[Kakkle]

Give freo carlisle for Hill and Walters

Nice one.

 

[stefoid]

If he wanted to come to us, we would offer our 1st rounder. likely to be mid-round-ish I suppose.

 

[daffo]

I don't want him to leave. There will be 17 clubs sniffing around him all year now.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Clubs need to cough up if they want Carlise but this is EFC so will most likely get bent over for a bag of chips.

 

[Highly Evolved]

I often wonder just how much pressure would be alleviated by changing clubs.

On first glance, it is pretty clear cut as you would presume that the new club wouldn’t be an immediate media focus.

But then you need to realise that just because your current club is being investigated, doesn’t mean that you no longer are. I imagine it could be fairly isolating if you are the only player at a club going through this process. (Who do you talk to? Who understands? If join other “former” players at a new club, what happens if you don’t like or trust them)?

(This obviously does not hold true for players looking to come into EFC)

All of that aside, I feel that if Jake left then it would be for money. I don’t really begrudge out-of-contract players relocating for greater money – it’s often a once-in-a-lifetime sum for what is, all things considered, a very short career.

When focused, Jake is a fantastic player. No doubt other teams will be circling, and if he were to leave, he would prosper (just like he would if he remained). If he does go, I imagine he’ll be played as a KPD and we will rue missed opportunities – but, that’s football for you.

 

[daffo]

If a player leaves for more money or a longer contract that doesn't bother me. They are trying to look after their family. (Angus Monfries). When a player leaves MID contract saying he 'wants a fresh start and will do everything to help Essendon' then refuses to go to GWS I call him Judas.

If Carlisle leaves I wouldn't boo him at games or anything like that. I just hope he stays as he is one of our most important players. I just want him in defence.

 

[hurlygurdy]

I want him given half a season up forward while we are playing a style of footy that actually allows forwards a fair chance. The longer it takes to get to that style, the longer he has to work on the craft.
If he fails under those conditions then send him back and lets never speak of it again.