Traded #25: Jake Stringer - 📦 Traded to GWS for Pick #53 - 16/10

[Lore]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024
My Boy Draft 2024: Pick 19, Harlequin

 

[jmoo wan]

King is spot on. He also has a balloon for a head.

it’s not just that he has a balloon for a head, it’s exacerbated by his tiny squinty eyes and massive forehead

 

[DapperDon]

it’s not just that he has a balloon for a head, it’s exacerbated by his tiny squinty eyes and massive forehead

 

[astrowizzle]

I can't get the running and spinning his arm around in circles after kicking his first goal on the great come back game out of my head. Pretty embarrassing stuff for I think the first goal of the game

 

[NAB777]

I don't know about any of you, but I never seem to be able to incorporate convicted killers into my friendship group

 

[justlookingaround]

Hogan had similar fitness/preparation problems to Stringer and GWS turned him into a Coleman medalist, they probably think they can do the same with Stringer and I wouldn't put it past them.
I think the social circle aspect likely plays a role in the club's decision, Hind's delisting was swift.
But the biggest aspect for me is Stringer has a year on his contract, the club said we're not going to give you an extra year because we don't trust Stringer outside of contract year, and instead of vowing to work harder he goes to find the extension elsewhere.
It's probably going to hurt us next year, but that hurt will be we finish 13th instead of 10th or 11th. In the long run it's the right call.

 

[Kyptastic]

I can't get the running and spinning his arm around in circles after kicking his first goal on the great come back game out of my head. Pretty embarrassing stuff for I think the first goal of the game

It was in the Qualifying Final in 2000, a game they ended up losing by 125 points.

 

[crackers65]

I don't know about any of you, but I never seem to be able to incorporate convicted killers into my friendship group

But he’s probably a really good bloke and as Hind said, he looks after me and Jakey. Why do they need looking after?

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

But he’s probably a really good bloke and as Hind said, he looks after me and Jakey. Why do they need looking after?

 

[jannissary]

haven’t been talkin to the cops have ya mate?

 

[yodellinhank]

Hogan had similar fitness/preparation problems to Stringer and GWS turned him into a Coleman medalist, they probably think they can do the same with Stringer and I wouldn't put it past them.

The Coleman race isn't what it once was, but 42 goals would be a real low point for the award.

 

[bombersim]

I was mentioning those picks to suggest that the giants won’t want to be adding that many rookies to the list. So later picks are less valuable to them. So pick 56 is honestly insulting.

The Giants are trying to win a flag and are trying to trade for one of the 20 most prolific goal kickers from last season. At some point you need to pay a premium to get an asset for the present vs someone who might potentially make an impact someday maybe.

What would you say Charlie Cameron is worth? Because him and Jake are the same age and were only 2 goals apart last season?

Essendon need points for Kako so I’d expect multiple later picks that equate to the point value of a 2nd round pick. That’s close to fair value for Jake and likely gets done

And you’re only comparing goals?
Charlie is a freak athlete, Jake is overweight and lazy.
Charlie had a down year and kicked 42, whereas 42 was Jake’s best in 6 yrs.

Jake last 6 yrs:
42, 21, 25, 41, 15, 33 29.5 ave

Charlie goals last 6 yrs
44, 59, 54, 55, 31, 57 @50 ave

Jake is always injured, Charlie is fit and available.
Does Charlie have criminal associations that have resulted in only one club having interest, for a nothing pick?
The only way they are similar if you look 1/4 of the information and pretend the rest doesn’t exist.

Look, Jake will be pretty good for them, but Charlie is elite, and Jake shows up in a contract year, like Hayley‘s comet.

 

[justlookingaround]

It was in the Qualifying Final in 2000, a game they ended up losing by 125 points.

this is why I listen to Don the Stat

 

[fishardansin]

Hogan had similar fitness/preparation problems to Stringer and GWS turned him into a Coleman medalist, they probably think they can do the same with Stringer and I wouldn't put it past them.
I think the social circle aspect likely plays a role in the club's decision, Hind's delisting was swift.
But the biggest aspect for me is Stringer has a year on his contract, the club said we're not going to give you an extra year because we don't trust Stringer outside of contract year, and instead of vowing to work harder he goes to find the extension elsewhere.
It's probably going to hurt us next year, but that hurt will be we finish 13th instead of 10th or 11th. In the long run it's the right call.

Agree. Move him on. A pick in 50s is meh but get it done. He's 30 now. We get to build for the future and he can try and get another flag with the team only the bulldogs hate!!

 

[fishardansin]

But he’s probably a really good bloke and as Hind said, he looks after me and Jakey. Why do they need looking after?

When you need a pinger at 1am to really enjoy that pie and coke at the local servo.

 

[jdstorm]

And you’re only comparing goals?
Charlie is a freak athlete, Jake is overweight and lazy.
Charlie had a down year and kicked 42, whereas 42 was Jake’s best in 6 yrs.

Jake last 6 yrs:
42, 21, 25, 41, 15, 33 29.5 ave

Charlie goals last 6 yrs
44, 59, 54, 55, 31, 57 @50 ave

Jake is always injured, Charlie is fit and available.
Does Charlie have criminal associations that have resulted in only one club having interest, for a nothing pick?
The only way they are similar if you look 1/4 of the information and pretend the rest doesn’t exist.

Look, Jake will be pretty good for them, but Charlie is elite, and Jake shows up in a contract year, like Hayley‘s comet.

Well if we’re using all the information….

Jakes associations have nothing to do with his footballing ability so that’s irrelevant.

Is only one club being interested relevant?
No not really because that’s how the AFL trade system works. Players nominate 1 club and no other interested clubs can be involved as part of the negotiations to drive up price. It’s about 2 clubs

Jakes under contract so Essendon don’t have to do anything and Stringer/GWS both end up unhappy. The onus is on the club trying to pry the player away to make the deal worth it to the club with a contracted player.

Charlie’s a great player. He’s also a forward who’s been on a top 4 team most of the past 6 years that’s very good at generating clean transition opportunities. Charlie wouldn’t have the same success playing for say North Melbourne.

That Jakes been playing for a team with multiple bottom 4 finishes in that time that’s awful in transition and still managed to average 30 goals while also playing a bunch of midfield is very good.

 

[DERO]

We should be comparing Curnow with Francis, not Stringer.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

now i’m no fancy business man or nothing but I reckon if they are trying to sell a player, to get a better deal they should talk him up and not shit can him

and yet both Essendon and the Bulldogs made the same mistake... might be something in that after all

 

[crackers65]

and yet both Essendon and the Bulldogs made the same mistake... might be something in that after all

Apparently you can’t polish a turd!

 

[Bjchan13]

He has still left himself room to stay for his contract. 'Spending the weekend assessing the family situation and how it would work'. If he does decide to request a trade it should get done for points equalling around pick 35ish

 

[Darealrath]

and yet both Essendon and the Bulldogs made the same mistake... might be something in that after all

Might be a reflection that clubs care more about perception with fans (due to moving on a very popular player) than actually maximising value.

 

[ghostdog]

He has still left himself room to stay for his contract. 'Spending the weekend assessing the family situation and how it would work'. If he does decide to request a trade it should get done for points equalling around pick 35ish

Bet he stays.

 

[Bjchan13]

Bet he stays.

Its always been 50 50 for me. He asked for an extension. No. His manager bluffed that he'd look around for a long term deal. Feel free to do that. Failed to find suitors, GWS maybe with 2 years? Manager tells Jake he can go to Sydney on 2 years. Jake thinks about it for 5 minutes and realises he has no interest in moving to Sydney. Returns to Essendon to see out contract and try to win another year through performance because its actually easier than moving to Sydney.

 

[ant555]

Bet he stays.

Is still on the cards. Last report I heard was he was spending the weekend going through what the move to Sydney means for his family. The latest pick trade with Melbourne could sort of change pick options if he decides he really wants to go.

 

[cAsEy_18]

Pick 37 certainly becomes more appealing now in some capacity if we can get it - not just from a points point of view by now actually using it.

 

[ghostdog]

Its always been 50 50 for me. He asked for an extension. No. His manager bluffed that he'd look around for a long term deal. Feel free to do that. Failed to find suitors, GWS maybe with 2 years? Manager tells Jake he can go to Sydney on 2 years. Jake thinks about it for 5 minutes and realises he has no interest in moving to Sydney. Returns to Essendon to see out contract and try to win another year through performance because its actually easier than moving to Sydney.

He just seems like the kind of guy to put his kids' best interests first. Would they like to move? I doubt it.
Lakemba mob would love him though.