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"As it stands, Warner's the only one maintaining a dignified silence. Yes I'm as stunned as you."
This final line from that article sums up the Bizarro nature of the whole tawdry episode.
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I haven't seen all the interviews yet but is Steve Smith really on a commercial talking about how "it's ok to be vulnerable"?
WTF?
I bloody well hope he's not getting paid!
He brought this sh#t on himself by not stepping up as a leader when he needed to. He's showing the same quality now by still blaming others. Should never have been captain despite being a gun bat.
Shut up, get out of the media, make piles of runs and hope enough people are desperate enough to call you up again.
WTF?
I bloody well hope he's not getting paid!
He brought this sh#t on himself by not stepping up as a leader when he needed to. He's showing the same quality now by still blaming others. Should never have been captain despite being a gun bat.
Shut up, get out of the media, make piles of runs and hope enough people are desperate enough to call you up again.
navel gazing muppets.
why don't some commentators in the media say this was so damn obvious they went through some extended media burson marsteller crisis mediamanagement training.
It was like they had done the Big Tobacco class action mea culpa.
Look at yourselves Australian Public too, you wanted this hand-wringing charade, they gave it to you in spades.
Dave Warner ftw. ferk em all DW, show em up as the muppets they are.
Why did no one mention that Dave Warner was copping it in spades because his ironwoman wife Candice Falzon's interlude with SBW in the privy at the Bondi pub meant DW was having his earcanals blasted by Saffa public and players. The Saffa cameramen and tv producers and editors have specific instruction to focus on the ball when it was going back to the bowler in the Australian bowling, because of suspicions.*
No one has the balls to mention the bowlers and Starc in particular getting the ball to go Irish, or reverse it, in the tenth over? About 55 overs before the Pakistani cricketers Waqar and Akram and Imran got the ball to reverse when they had the bottle tops at their disposal.
cant find Doull, just heard him on Sporting Capital on SEN with Jack Heverin. Not if one would only listen to the #succourmom dross of Gerard Whately. He was far better as a milquetoast pusillanimous tv reporter on TEN who got evicted by security in a live cross from Colonial Stadium in 2001. If it was up to GW we would all become girls' blouses eh evo
This is not a pursuit of truth. This is better left to Aaron Sorkin and Jack Nicholson, you my public friend, cant handle the truth. The truth is staring you in the eyes.
*re: cycling. I asked Matt Keenan, on twitter albeit, when Vincenzo Nibali (in the Vuelta Espagna) was got done for holding on to his team car for a tow when he needed to make the breakaway climbers on a crucial stage, I asked Keeno if the editors and producers would have shown the footage if Nibali was Spanish or if the rider who was holding the car was Spanish, Valverde or Joaquin Rodriguez, because I said it is my assumption that this footage goes in the can if it was a Spaniard, or Nibali was not Italian but Spanish. Keeno agreed with my premise. Now, this same thing happened in the Herald-Sun Tour circa 2006 when a foreign rider was leading, and just p'raps the timetrial numbers got fudged to make a Victorian win the race! *heavy chinese whispers on this mail, this may not be correct re: HS Tour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burson-Marsteller
why don't some commentators in the media say this was so damn obvious they went through some extended media burson marsteller crisis mediamanagement training.
It was like they had done the Big Tobacco class action mea culpa.
Look at yourselves Australian Public too, you wanted this hand-wringing charade, they gave it to you in spades.
Dave Warner ftw. ferk em all DW, show em up as the muppets they are.
Why did no one mention that Dave Warner was copping it in spades because his ironwoman wife Candice Falzon's interlude with SBW in the privy at the Bondi pub meant DW was having his earcanals blasted by Saffa public and players. The Saffa cameramen and tv producers and editors have specific instruction to focus on the ball when it was going back to the bowler in the Australian bowling, because of suspicions.*
No one has the balls to mention the bowlers and Starc in particular getting the ball to go Irish, or reverse it, in the tenth over? About 55 overs before the Pakistani cricketers Waqar and Akram and Imran got the ball to reverse when they had the bottle tops at their disposal.
references:Brett Geeves and Simon Doull. Both represented their nations, Australia, plus New Zealand with the ball. They are marginal commentators, these links and this copy does flirt with click-bait status, as it does seek to inflate controversy. They are competing for air to have their copy and names out there in the media. But there is still a truth in what they write:
cant find Doull, just heard him on Sporting Capital on SEN with Jack Heverin. Not if one would only listen to the #succourmom dross of Gerard Whately. He was far better as a milquetoast pusillanimous tv reporter on TEN who got evicted by security in a live cross from Colonial Stadium in 2001. If it was up to GW we would all become girls' blouses eh evo
This is not a pursuit of truth. This is better left to Aaron Sorkin and Jack Nicholson, you my public friend, cant handle the truth. The truth is staring you in the eyes.
*re: cycling. I asked Matt Keenan, on twitter albeit, when Vincenzo Nibali (in the Vuelta Espagna) was got done for holding on to his team car for a tow when he needed to make the breakaway climbers on a crucial stage, I asked Keeno if the editors and producers would have shown the footage if Nibali was Spanish or if the rider who was holding the car was Spanish, Valverde or Joaquin Rodriguez, because I said it is my assumption that this footage goes in the can if it was a Spaniard, or Nibali was not Italian but Spanish. Keeno agreed with my premise. Now, this same thing happened in the Herald-Sun Tour circa 2006 when a foreign rider was leading, and just p'raps the timetrial numbers got fudged to make a Victorian win the race! *heavy chinese whispers on this mail, this may not be correct re: HS Tour.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burson-Marsteller
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What version of history did you experience? Did you not see or hear the days of repeated media reporting on this - and the fact that Warner was giving back as good as he got (hence why people criticise him as a hypocrite - but it's not like these same people hold up the South Africans as bastions of the game either)?
his quote would be 300k. His manager takes 30%, leave 210k. He gives 10k to a men's psychological health charity, or Mens' Sheds or some shite. He puts in ten hours work with them. He lets them use his image and name at Mens' Sheds. Vodafone get his image rights and name usage for 24 months. He walks away with 200k less tax. So what is that, 135k? Assuming he was from a tabula rasa income of 0%. He would not be at 0. He would start immediately at top rate cos his income would already be at 7 figures, even missing the 12 months. So, he pays 48% on that 200k. P'raps his 10k to Mens Sheds would be tax deductible. (It would be, it would be tax exempt charity). So he pays 48% on 190k.
He walks away shaking hands with Danny Frawley. Here is a riddle, which one of them is smarter? Put the two of them in the same room and you would not count a cumulative IQ the equivalent of a used prophylactic at Pentridge.
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I can't wait for the "win at all costs" crowd to come out and point to this match as "proof" that we should take a soft stance towards cheating.
Never mind that we drew 1-1 with Bangladesh with that attitude not 18 months ago...
Never mind that we drew 1-1 with Bangladesh with that attitude not 18 months ago...
I dont defend DW, he is an adult, you are correct HTPunter that he gave as good as he got. I dont need to concede this, it is unsaid. Ofcourse, DW gave it in spades too.
You have to be a bit of a pudenda* to play pro sport. Dig under the surface a little, you will find that even Federer is a bit of a prick. Just skilled in the game of "sorry mate" media management or perception management.
That is the plural of the singular pudendum* but skilts gave me the permission to be grammatically incorrect on the basis of mellifluousness.
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the cheating binary/dichotomy is a fallacy. It is a Zeno's Paradox spectrum.
Remember when Hansie Cronje got done for game rigging? And before confirmation, just when it was boiling in the press,
Tugga Steve Waugh gave a very stern faced pressa. He knew what was happening in international cricket. He prolly had an aperture thru his brother and Warnie getting cash for pitch conditions, when the bookie would merely have been a using a grooming MO to completely turn them.
Steve W did not have complete information, but he knew enough to know Cronje and cohorts were rigging some outcomes for lucre.
But when does ball manipulation actually become cheating. This is not a value judgement, and at once, NOT an apologia. What if the sandpaper is not effective like a bottle top, when bottle tops are still being used. What if Bancroft's intentions were for the sandpaper to be significantly more effective than bottle tops? What if it is only the camera highlighting them. Mick Lewis for the Vic Bushrangers was caught scraping the ball in the MCG gutter in a shield game no? Where does that lie on the spectrum? Was it just the fourth estate highlighting everything and mining controversy for its last revenue dollar, because the fourth estate is haemorrhaging revenue? Tail-wagging dog point-of-view I mean.
#handwringing
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Don't really know what is the point of them coming out and talking about it, this is making them look more foolish. Warner looks more smart to me compared to these two Idiots.
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It is about time someone in the know actually posted about Warner
Here goes...
Warner did not piss off the field in the club game a few months ago due to Jason Hughes labeling him a 'disgrace'
Jason Hughes went hard at Warner posthumously becoming friends with his brother, Phillip.
Therefore, Warner is somehow the lowest of the low. Pretending to either give a crap or be friends with a bloke that has just become brain-dead as he is carted off the field.
Furthermore, Warner does not care about the team. The only reason he plays test cricket is to increase his potential advertising gain both home and abroad, hence the dumb jump in the air (Toyota) or the carrrrdoooons (Oled TVs)
Oh and do not shoot the messenger. Blame a team-mate of Jason Hughes.
Fact remains, there is a special place in hell for Warner.
Here goes...
Warner did not piss off the field in the club game a few months ago due to Jason Hughes labeling him a 'disgrace'
Jason Hughes went hard at Warner posthumously becoming friends with his brother, Phillip.
Therefore, Warner is somehow the lowest of the low. Pretending to either give a crap or be friends with a bloke that has just become brain-dead as he is carted off the field.
Furthermore, Warner does not care about the team. The only reason he plays test cricket is to increase his potential advertising gain both home and abroad, hence the dumb jump in the air (Toyota) or the carrrrdoooons (Oled TVs)
Oh and do not shoot the messenger. Blame a team-mate of Jason Hughes.
Fact remains, there is a special place in hell for Warner.
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So you're alleging they were never really friends. Didn't they grow up playing together?
I still believe Warner has been silent because he's bloody guilty.
I don't want him to play for us again honestly, no matter how good he was. Guy is a germ. Reverend my ass.
I still believe Warner has been silent because he's bloody guilty.
I don't want him to play for us again honestly, no matter how good he was. Guy is a germ. Reverend my ass.
Slightly in gest but but did you watch the cricket today?
this has to be one of the worst phrases to come into regular usage
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why?
Jest
And no - I rarely watch us bat these days. It's too hard on the wife and the dog.
Now Michael Clarke has come out swinging. He'll go to the opening of an envelope as he loves tbe sound of his own voice.
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Whether this is true or not, always thought there had to be more than a sledge about ball tampering for Warner to call a time out before resuming his innings and the umpires and opposing captain to be fine about it.
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I don't think too many people here are familiar with the second declension.
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"milquetoast pusillanimous tv reporter ..."
Brilliant description! I call him Jimmy Olsen, the office boy who rose in status by association with people of more gravitas.
I offered an explanation of why some people think the ball tampering thing was a big deal, in response to a poster wondering about why. So you try to argue my point of view, way to miss the point mate.
Did I say that? This board is such a joke, can't have a decent discussion with anyone. I offered an explanation of why some think it significant and you just want to argue ad hominem no surprise.
Not believing you should ban your best batsman for 12 months does not make anyone part of a "win at all costs" crowd. Also the fact that you obviously consider Bangladesh a minnow nation at home shows you have absolutely no idea.
I'd much rather we'd taken a more practical approach rather then let executives throw our players in the bin in an attempt to keep their jobs a few months down the line. When we're booted out of the World Cup before the finals and lose 5-0 in England I think we'll see the full consequences of this. No doubt people like yourself will blame Smith and Warner if they don't perform but the truth is Cricket Australia have likely wrecked them mentally for the remainder of their careers and they may not be the same. This may come across like hyperbole but so is banning players for 12 months to appease people who barely watch the Cricket.
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