Should of taken Heppell
Lets put this to bed once and for all, if we or any other club for that matter picked that cheat, essendrugs would've told him to ask for a trade after 1 year, this i have no doubt.
Player Watch #30: Reece Conca
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Lets put this to bed once and for all, if we or any other club for that matter picked that cheat, essendrugs would've told him to ask for a trade after 1 year, this i have no doubt.
Honestly I don't remember where i heard it, might have been an interview, on site video or could be something I heard from around the traps. It's just something that stuck in my head at the time as to why he is considered so important by the club.
Kind of like i've heard somewhere that when we are desperate for a clearance we chuck Shane Edwards in the middle as he is our best clearance player. But i couldn't tell you where i got that from.
That doesn't mean much, we took Conca very early in that draft, a lot of clubs were surprised that we did, in reality he should of slipped further down the order, and we should of taken Heppell..
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OK footballer and that's about it.
Not sure how many games he has played but would think about 60 and I have to say I don't honestly know where his best position or even role is within the team. Wouldn't think he is slow but I don't really recall seeing him being a fast repeat runner either.
The kid has been crueled by injury so it's not all his fault but with guys like k Mac putting pressure on and guys like Lambert, Lennon, Ellis #2, McDonough etc his luck needs to change and fast.
I read a few posts in here saying how defensive minded he is and I wonder if he could be a defensive forward option rather than that of a mid?
Like the bloke but his time is ticking before he becomes another unlucky draft selection as younger guys with luck and ability go past him.
Hope his hammy is on the mend and we see him soon
The kid has been crueled by injury so it's not all his fault but with guys like k Mac putting pressure on and guys like Lambert, Lennon, Ellis #2, McDonough etc his luck needs to change and fast.
I read a few posts in here saying how defensive minded he is and I wonder if he could be a defensive forward option rather than that of a mid?
Like the bloke but his time is ticking before he becomes another unlucky draft selection as younger guys with luck and ability go past him.
Hope his hammy is on the mend and we see him soon
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I don't remember where it was but I recall Conca being mentioned as one of the best at the club for successful inside 50 entries, we need to get him back up to this level
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This from the 2014 season preview linked
http://www.scpaige.com.au/supercoach-preseason-previews-richmond/
Id have him in ahead of Newman, Gordon and Morris without thinking.
another three amigos that are Jack of all trades and expert at none. In Newy's defence he was a great general in the back half but speed has now left him. Can Conca play that sort of role? Just don't know, more questions than answers really.
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Righto, this guy and Vickery, i'll be tempered with my response. It's time to admit those picks are a bust. Now, i can defend Tyrone a little bit, as he's a ruck we are trying to convert to a key forward. He's not a forwards arseh*le, but, he's a handy tap ruckman. He will most likely replace Maric within 3 years.
Conca - what's his excuse? Yep, he's had injuries, but, even without them, he is an average footballer. Average skills, average pace, average mark, wtf did our recruiters see in this bloke over Heppell. It still ****ing pisses me off to this day how bad we ****ed the Conca pick up.
NO, NOT IN OUR BEST 26.
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Conca - what's his excuse? Yep, he's had injuries, but, even without them, he is an average footballer. Average skills, average pace, average mark, wtf did our recruiters see in this bloke over Heppell. It still ****ing pisses me off to this day how bad we ****ed the Conca pick up.
NO, NOT IN OUR BEST 26.
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That last part was from Dimma's dissection last season maybe?
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I think we have coaches who talk themselves into things regardless of the obvious. We see dimma trying to convince himself as much us about this three pronged attack just to include Ty. The three talls thing doesn't work. We are more dangerous with smaller blokes nipping around Griffiths and Jack.
Conca is another, we are trying to convince ourselves on him. I ask you, how many games in 4 years has he dominated like Heppell has? How many games has he imposed himself on?
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Concas highlights in his draft year were very good, had break away pace, very nice blend of in/outside mid
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No offence, but i couldn't give a shit what his video looked like. Anyone who knew the draft that year rated Heppell as a high first round selection and Conca a late first rounder to second.
And where is he as a footballer right now? He isn't setting the world alight.
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As I said above, according to Champion Data in 2013 he was the only midfielder at the club to rate above average for goals, score assists and score involvements. He has talent but if he doesn't get his body and fitness up to scratch then he won't be the player we want him to be.
Basically right now people are picturing Conca like they did McIntosh before he debut'd.
That's a bit harsh isn't it? Like if Dimma was trying to convince himself he's not doing a very good job of it. When did three prongs last play together?
Took a gamble on needs and not best available, it happens
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Did anyone ever write off Shane Edwards? Or were you one of the oracles who didn't. I declared Shane would be an AA player 3-4 years ago before writing him off completely a year or so later. I was wrong.
Conca is still young. And he's a Ranga. Ranga's have special powers. Unseen powers that usually emerge at unusual times. My missus is a Ranga and I have learnt the hard way that you underestimate a saucehead at your own peril. I'm not convinced one way or another but I think he deserves more time. He needs a better run at playing footy. I would hate for him to become a gun at another club. Also, Heppell is about to realise his hair looks stupid and things are going to go pear shaped for him too. Possibly.
Give him more time.
Conca is still young. And he's a Ranga. Ranga's have special powers. Unseen powers that usually emerge at unusual times. My missus is a Ranga and I have learnt the hard way that you underestimate a saucehead at your own peril. I'm not convinced one way or another but I think he deserves more time. He needs a better run at playing footy. I would hate for him to become a gun at another club. Also, Heppell is about to realise his hair looks stupid and things are going to go pear shaped for him too. Possibly.
Give him more time.
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I have faith in Concs, maybe not as a pick 6 in terms of output, but certainly as in our best 22.
In 2013 before he got injured he looked so effective in tight spaces. Really sharp, and effective player in tight by foot and hand.
He hasn't looked as good since, but he also hasn't had a pre-season until this year.
Would I prefer Heppell? Everyday of the week.
But we didn't have Blair Hartley then to milk up Frank's errors. And there is no point crying over spilt Conca.
He's one of ours, and I hope we don't trade him.
He will become a valuable inside / defensive mid who will work with Corey and give lace-out ball to McKenzie, Griff, & Jackboi for years to come.
In 2013 before he got injured he looked so effective in tight spaces. Really sharp, and effective player in tight by foot and hand.
He hasn't looked as good since, but he also hasn't had a pre-season until this year.
Would I prefer Heppell? Everyday of the week.
But we didn't have Blair Hartley then to milk up Frank's errors. And there is no point crying over spilt Conca.
He's one of ours, and I hope we don't trade him.
He will become a valuable inside / defensive mid who will work with Corey and give lace-out ball to McKenzie, Griff, & Jackboi for years to come.
**** Heppell. Overrated. Gets plenty of the ball but either does those dinky little passes for the stat-pad one-two, or kicks long to contests/the opposition. I would love to see his retention rate inside 50 - bet its way down. He is also unaccountable and a defensive liability. An Essendon-supporting mate of mine agrees on all those points.
Conca is a good, tough, creative ball-winner and link man who if he gets a good run at it will be a very good player. He does need to iron out those kicks where he leans back and it comes off the side of the boot.
Conca is a good, tough, creative ball-winner and link man who if he gets a good run at it will be a very good player. He does need to iron out those kicks where he leans back and it comes off the side of the boot.
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Oh how quickly people forgot how awesome his cuddles are...
Oh how quickly people forgot how awesome his cuddles are...
Agree. Improvement will come from blokes who have been with the club and on our list for a few years now. Conca is key
I remember the shit that used to be written about Richo. There were only a few of us on here who defended the big lug when the vast majority wanted to trade him. He became everyone's loveable lug towards the end of his career.
Conca is absolutely best 22 (easily) when up and running. Just needs to get on the park and stay on the park. A fit Conca will be a huge boost to the midfield. He has the skills and smarts to be a very good set up player for us. He is also required as an inside distributor.
Captain - you need to get over Heppell. It's done. Nothing anyone can do can change it. You're working yourself up over spilt milk.
Conca was selected at 6 in a compromised draft. He has the skills to be a 200 game AFL player. He was also rated high in the Psych test. Very well regarded off field and by the players.
Life will get a lot easier for you captain if you let the draft order go and Heppell and just focus on the present.
Have always stood up for Edwards against you heathen non believers.
Nah jury still out for me with Edwards but I am happy to be proven wrong by him. I'll be the first on here to congratulate him when he becomes a consistent good player. Last year was a step in the right direction but still not there yet.
