Player Watch #32 Samson Ryan

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Was playing this the other day lol. Hopefully Ryan shows us why the new deal is worth it.
I went through a fair bit of it again when they put out the “upgraded” (not really upgraded) versions a few years ago
 

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We seem to have a lot of patience with our rucks.

Like OHB and Colina at the rate he is developing we may get some good games out of him by the time he turns 30.
Go have a look at young Sims he has only just got here and already he looks a better prospect with a better body for the role.
 
We seem to have a lot of patience with our rucks.

Like OHB and Colina at the rate he is developing we may get some good games out of him by the time he turns 30.
Go have a look at young Sims he has only just got here and already he looks a better prospect with a better body for the role.

Mate, if he took a single contested mark at training, he has already gone past the "baby like giraffe".
 
Cos we need the depth over the next three years.

He improves we win
He stays the same he’s inexpensive depth at the prime age
He asks for a trade he’s contracted clubs pay more.

He doesn't improve we lose...
He stays the same we have an ineffectual player taking up a spot on the list we're stuck with for 3 more years when someone better may be available next year...
He asks for a trade clubs say no thanks and we're stuck with him...

There are other ways to get depth over the next three years, it doesn't need to be Ryan on a 3 year contract.

As I said I hope the club can see something behind the scenes that we can't and this proves to be a masterstroke.
 
Someone said he’s got hands like chandler bing

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Someone said he’s got hands like chandler bing

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Totally agree

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He doesn't improve we lose...
He stays the same we have an ineffectual player taking up a spot on the list we're stuck with for 3 more years when someone better may be available next year...
He asks for a trade clubs say no thanks and we're stuck with him...

There are other ways to get depth over the next three years, it doesn't need to be Ryan on a 3 year contract.

As I said I hope the club can see something behind the scenes that we can't and this proves to be a masterstroke.

It’s not behind the scenes. It’s his performances at VFL level. Regularly getting good disposal tallies, taking lots of marks including some contested, and then regularly kicking multiple goals.

He has regularly done well against other seasoned rucks at VFL level like Mark Pittonet.

So I think it’s confidence and opportunity, whereby he’s a ruckman … he’s not a forward who pinch hits ruck, and he’s not a 50/50 ruck/fwd. he’s a ruckman and he has shown regularly he can play that role really well at VFL level.

Will it eventually translate to AFL? Hopefully, but it’s not hard to see from VFL performances over many years that Ryan has potential and that’s what the club sees, as we all can.


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Someone said he’s got hands like chandler bing

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No more forward line.

Ruck only
Would love to see it but pretty much impossible with a fit Nank, same issue we had with Soldo

Hopefully they can try and split the ruck duty spilt more to 50/50

I really like Nank when he plays behind the ball (we don’t win that port prelim without him) in the backline and Ryan is probably more suited in the forward line if not in the ruck so it would be nice if they could get whoever isn’t in the ruck or on the bench to spread the load into those respective areas
 
It’s not behind the scenes. It’s his performances at VFL level. Regularly getting good disposal tallies, taking lots of marks including some contested, and then regularly kicking multiple goals.

He has regularly done well against other seasoned rucks at VFL level like Mark Pittonet.

So I think it’s confidence and opportunity, whereby he’s a ruckman … he’s not a forward who pinch hits ruck, and he’s not a 50/50 ruck/fwd. he’s a ruckman and he has shown regularly he can play that role really well at VFL level.

Will it eventually translate to AFL? Hopefully, but it’s not hard to see from VFL performances over many years that Ryan has potential and that’s what the club sees, as we all can.


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Yes we all know he can play good games at VFL level.

As I said in my first post which you may not have gone back to see the context in which I am speaking, I was surprised by the length of the contract, not that he was given one.

"as we all can"... Yeah sure... Commenting that I was surprised by the length of the contract is on the nicer side of things said about him in this thread.
 
Im one of his bigger critics if not his biggest.

Saying that im happy for him to be on the list not just three years though.
I actually think if he cannot improve his weaknesses this year then that would be it.

As a critic i still feel we need to draft another genuine ruckman just in case he doesn't work out.
I dont see Sims a starting ruckman and if Ryan does fail its not a 199cm type we need but another 106 cm type like Ryan.

I have zero faith of the basketballers ever being anything but Basketballers the rate of development with them means we won't get a thing out of them until their 30 as such what is the point.
We have Nankervis, we have Ryan and we have fwd/ruck sims there is a need for another Ryan type imo.Too few eggs in too few baskets imo.
 
Samson Ryan on peanuts for the next 3 years as insurance is fine
He will be 26 years old when out of contract and Nank is 30 years old and should have another 2-3 years and the timing will be perfect to take over if he improves his ruck craft.

Finally has a body that looks like a Ruckman and not a string bean
 
Would love to see it but pretty much impossible with a fit Nank, same issue we had with Soldo

Hopefully they can try and split the ruck duty spilt more to 50/50

I really like Nank when he plays behind the ball (we don’t win that port prelim without him) in the backline and Ryan is probably more suited in the forward line if not in the ruck so it would be nice if they could get whoever isn’t in the ruck or on the bench to spread the load into those respective areas
The nank of 2024 is not the Nank of 2017

We are going to need Samson
 
Im one of his bigger critics if not his biggest.

Saying that im happy for him to be on the list not just three years though.
I actually think if he cannot improve his weaknesses this year then that would be it.

As a critic i still feel we need to draft another genuine ruckman just in case he doesn't work out.
I dont see Sims a starting ruckman and if Ryan does fail its not a 199cm type we need but another 106 cm type like Ryan.

I have zero faith of the basketballers ever being anything but Basketballers the rate of development with them means we won't get a thing out of them until their 30 as such what is the point.
We have Nankervis, we have Ryan and we have fwd/ruck sims there is a need for another Ryan type imo.Too few eggs in too few baskets imo.
You a critic. Well I never
 
Yes we all know he can play good games at VFL level.

As I said in my first post which you may not have gone back to see the context in which I am speaking, I was surprised by the length of the contract, not that he was given one.

"as we all can"... Yeah sure... Commenting that I was surprised by the length of the contract is on the nicer side of things said about him in this thread.
Kosi ~ 3 years, Chol 5 Balta 8. Ethan Read plays 4 games gets 4 years. All too long? Just contract length inflation.

Bolton was contracted to RFC for 5 odd years, didn't stop a trade.

3 years for Ryan it wont be Dusty money. Unless its spread over 3 years. Rucks have good currency at the trade table.

We took a Sims over another free agent Knobel. Sims for Naismith.

Ryan was back up ruck off the bench & Naismith was OK in ground zero but injury scared us off another free agent.

Ryan only really played KPF as Lynch injury cover this year. I think Ryan or Sims play the back up ruck off the bench. Ryan plays if Nank misses.
 

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