Past #36: Joel Crocker - delisted after being selected w/ #69 in 2018 ND - thanks Crock

[Snake_Baker]

He isn't going anywhere based on GB's comments. We aren't just going to dump a father-son prospect after two years. He'll be afforded more time than most.

Who?

 

[LB2Snake]

Who?

Be Gavin Brown I would think. Snake_Baker

 

[New_Roo]

That's what we are all waiting on - what is the AFL list size - all up - in 2021.

Longer it goes on as unknown more and more likely it will be reduced but minimum... guessing 40? Inclusive of rookie


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[shimaburnsgrieg]

Longer it goes on as unknown more and more likely it will be reduced but minimum... guessing 40? Inclusive of rookie


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Agree and 40 inclusive of rookies is my assumption as well.

 

[Arthur Cloke]

2 years at the club now. You'd suspect the medico's have him cherry right for a massive 2021. You'd suspect he's bulked right up as well. Can anyone confirm?

 

[giantroo]

2 years at the club now. You'd suspect the medico's have him cherry right for a massive 2021. You'd suspect he's bulked right up as well. Can anyone confirm?

 

[The Nostradamus]

Ideally he’d replace Will Walker this week

 

[Snake_Baker]

Ideally, he would have won the Syd Barker, Brownlow, AFLMVP & AA honors in his first season.

 

[7577969923]

Ideally, he would have won the Syd Barker, Brownlow, AFLMVP & AA honors in his first season.

Seems a reasonable expectation.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Very very very stiff. Wonder how his old man is feeling about this?

When we picked him we knew due to his build that he was going to be a slower burn. To be turfed after 2 years is ruthless considering his talent.

I hope you ply your trade in the state leagues and get another crack in the future.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Surely they will rookie him?

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

Rough.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Surely they will rookie him?

Agree.

 

[the big lebowski]

I remember a couple of preseason training sessions and shaw was riding him really hard. I thought at the time that shaw obviously thought he had a lot to work on. Guess he didn’t do it well enough.

 

[Billy Not Really]

Has to be rookie listed you'd say. Otherwise its a big question mark left on the type of player you're missing out on.

 

[tazaa]

Im happy the clubs not playing favourites with father-sons.
The favouritism played with Luke when he was drafted hurt his development, but he came good thanks to Rhyce.
Just pray cutting Joel doesn't come back to hurt us.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Saw this a long way coming. Club never seemed to rate him.

 

[Swallow_Wood]

Im happy the clubs not playing favourites with father-sons.
The favouritism played with Luke when he was drafted hurt his development, but he came good thanks to Rhyce.
Just pray cutting Joel doesn't come back to hurt us.

I don't think it will.

From what I have seen of him (multiple training sessions, a couple of practice matches & VFL games) Joel has a good footy brain, neat skills and guts for weeks. However he is just too slow, and not athletic enough for AFL level. He could have a decent VFL or ammos career, but i highly doubt another AFL club will pick him up.

 

[marklovesbeer]

Has to be rookie listed you'd say. Otherwise its a big question mark left on the type of player you're missing out on.

Doesn’t ‘will not be offered new contracts’ mean just that.

 

[Billy Not Really]

Doesn’t ‘will not be offered new contracts’ mean just that.

Not necessarily.

 

[andana]

Will there even be rookies?

 

[marklovesbeer]

Not necessarily.

Righto.
You’re not getting a contract next year.
Oh yeah, & here’s a rookie contract for you.

I get that some people get moved to the rookie list, but these guys have all been told they’re not going to be at the club next year.

 

[Billy Not Really]

Righto.
You’re not getting a contract next year.
Oh yeah, & here’s a rookie contract for you.

I get that some people get moved to the rookie list, but these guys have all been told they’re not going to be at the club next year.

We just have to wait and see.

Because as far as I can tell, McGuinness is still on the list and he was just as equally in the same boat as Crocker on development rate, and if the cutting isn't done, he's easily next on the chopping block if Crocker can't get a single game at North, a side that is relying on youth to go forward.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Righto.
You’re not getting a contract next year.
Oh yeah, & here’s a rookie contract for you.

I get that some people get moved to the rookie list, but these guys have all been told they’re not going to be at the club next year.

Fair point, but perhaps there's some wriggle room between what each of the 11 were told individually, and what the public was told collectively?

 

[marklovesbeer]

We just have to wait and see.

Because as far as I can tell, McGuinness is still on the list and he was just as equally in the same boat as Crocker on development rate, and if the cutting isn't done, he's easily next on the chopping block if Crocker can't get a single game at North, a side that is relying on youth to go forward.

Maybe Rawlings just doesn’t think Crocker is any good & he rates McGuinness?

Do clubs know list sizes yet? Kind of hard for list managers right now if they don’t know how many spots they’ve got to work with.