Player Watch #40 Tyler Sonsie

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Utility in the sense he works over most of the ground, mainly in the front 2/3s. He looked best as an additional number at the stoppages around the ground. He struggled at centre bounces, albeit everyone did.

In 2022 I would have agreed regarding him being one of our only genuine mids. However, we have added Taranto, Hopper, McAuliffe, Smillie and Lalor (and Hotton) to the mix since then. When everyone is fit I think it would be hard to see Sonsie get picked in our top 5-6 mids at this stage. His best option is establishing a role at half forward working across the ground as an extra mid and occasionally going on-ball as the outside midfielder. It took Shedda and Lambert years of playing forward before they became our permanent midfield rotations.

If you look at the passage of play with about 3 mins left in the 2nd quarter (R8 Freo) you will see exactly where Sonsie can be most damaging roaming the ground from half forward. Brown and Short also do well in this passage and other passages with Rioli pushed further up the ground.

No doubt he’s got his work cut out for him in terms of midfield time. But that’s the go, competition is good he needs to start performing in that role at senior level if he’s given the chance.
 
Don’t quite agree with the last comment
Sonsie gets a lot of it at VFL but he couldn’t win a hard ball to save his life and is a repeat offender when it comes to shirking the contest to avoid contact

It’s always cheap ground ball from spill outs or Tom Mitchell 1 - 2 handball chains that inflate his numbers in the VFL

I’m not a massive Dow fan but if at least he always cracks in to try and win a hard ball at the coal face

I was reminded of how putrid Dow was last year in the first half v Freo R8. He often misses the contest through poor positioning or lack of speed/agility, he’s weak on the tackle and a poor decision maker that doesn’t kick. Sonsie probably had more (and better) defensive efforts and attacks on the ball in the half.

I think the only reason Dow played so many games was that he had a solid preseason, all our inside midfielders got injured and he played one half-decent game that probably had them thinking he was improving. I don’t think he and Sonsie are in direct competition for a spot in the 22 but I doubt we’ll see Dow if Taranto, Hopper, Prestia, Ross, McAuliffe, Smillie and Lalor are fit for most of the season. He’s first delisted for me as he has no back-up position where as Sonsie could be kept for a half forward role until he is midfield ready.
 
I was reminded of how putrid Dow was last year in the first half v Freo R8. He often misses the contest through poor positioning or lack of speed/agility, he’s weak on the tackle and a poor decision maker that doesn’t kick. Sonsie probably had more (and better) defensive efforts and attacks on the ball in the half.

I think the only reason Dow played so many games was that he had a solid preseason, all our inside midfielders got injured and he played one half-decent game that probably had them thinking he was improving. I don’t think he and Sonsie are in direct competition for a spot in the 22 but I doubt we’ll see Dow if Taranto, Hopper, Prestia, Ross, McAuliffe, Smillie and Lalor are fit for most of the season. He’s first delisted for me as he has no back-up position where as Sonsie could be kept for a half forward role until he is midfield ready.

Overrated. Just like paddy. Had some good junior games that’s never translated to senior footy.

Now I’ve put the reverse moz on him he’ll win a b&f in a premiership year.
 

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From my observations, Sonsie would hang around the outside of any ball-up - presumably because he was instructed to do so.
I want him to make it. I sort of like the idea of him playing a D Rioli type role off the bank flank, but also don't want to keep shuffling him around different positions - like was done to Jack Ross.
 
My problem with him is i dont think he helps us to become a quicker midfield.
I don't think he is overly quick or a good mover.

By all means play him in the midfield but im not sure that will solve his problems.

Have a look at Seth Campbell he played forward all year and for sure we have overrated a lot of his games but no one could
be mad with his committment and attack on the ball.
Cannot say that about Sonsie in fact he has rightly been criticised for a lot of very ordinary efforts.

There is only one way to find out if he has what it takes. Play him in the midfield guarantee a block of games put a couple of bulls around him and lets see once and for all if he will work out.

If he succeeeds its a win and a bonus. There is nothing to lose doing this.

Just on where we took him and people saying he was rated higher.
Well right at this point in time you would have to say he was taken too early. Just maybe he got to pick 28 because clubs could see something we didn't. In saying that like most here i was happy we took him at 28 and thought he was a bit of a good slider.

Personally i do think we need to play him in the midfield if we play him in a role that had us draft him.
In saying that id like us to get games into all of our young mids this year as many as possible and for me that includes Campbell.

When injuries hit some of our mids and they will then i think even Dow will get more games as we do not have the midfield numbers to cover many injuries.
 
My problem with him is i dont think he helps us to become a quicker midfield.
I don't think he is overly quick or a good mover.

By all means play him in the midfield but im not sure that will solve his problems.

Have a look at Seth Campbell he played forward all year and for sure we have overrated a lot of his games but no one could
be mad with his committment and attack on the ball.
Cannot say that about Sonsie in fact he has rightly been criticised for a lot of very ordinary efforts.

There is only one way to find out if he has what it takes. Play him in the midfield guarantee a block of games put a couple of bulls around him and lets see once and for all if he will work out.

If he succeeeds its a win and a bonus. There is nothing to lose doing this.

Just on where we took him and people saying he was rated higher.
Well right at this point in time you would have to say he was taken too early. Just maybe he got to pick 28 because clubs could see something we didn't. In saying that like most here i was happy we took him at 28 and thought he was a bit of a good slider.

Personally i do think we need to play him in the midfield if we play him in a role that had us draft him.
In saying that id like us to get games into all of our young mids this year as many as possible and for me that includes Campbell.

When injuries hit some of our mids and they will then i think even Dow will get more games as we do not have the midfield numbers to cover many injuries.
No comparison Seth been on the list less time than sonsie heaps of injuries and held his spot nearly all season whilst Sonsie has sown f all in afl lvl.
 
My problem with him is i dont think he helps us to become a quicker midfield.
I don't think he is overly quick or a good mover.

By all means play him in the midfield but im not sure that will solve his problems.

Have a look at Seth Campbell he played forward all year and for sure we have overrated a lot of his games but no one could
be mad with his committment and attack on the ball.
Cannot say that about Sonsie in fact he has rightly been criticised for a lot of very ordinary efforts.

There is only one way to find out if he has what it takes. Play him in the midfield guarantee a block of games put a couple of bulls around him and lets see once and for all if he will work out.

If he succeeeds its a win and a bonus. There is nothing to lose doing this.

Just on where we took him and people saying he was rated higher.
Well right at this point in time you would have to say he was taken too early. Just maybe he got to pick 28 because clubs could see something we didn't. In saying that like most here i was happy we took him at 28 and thought he was a bit of a good slider.

Personally i do think we need to play him in the midfield if we play him in a role that had us draft him.
In saying that id like us to get games into all of our young mids this year as many as possible and for me that includes Campbell.

When injuries hit some of our mids and they will then i think even Dow will get more games as we do not have the midfield numbers to cover many injuries.
Well that is what the preseason is for. They do a lot of drills around ball movement from stoppages so you would think if he was going to shine then that is the time to do it. The senior boys are not going to hard, and he has the edge in experience over the new boys. Again scratch matches and preseason matches.

If he is not standing out at training, with all he has to prove, then little chance of being given a gig early. Injuries and at some stage he will be given a go are his hope it would seem at this stage because he is training as a forward from reports.

I am not worried or frustrated if he comes good. He was pick 28 or so, he has shown glimpses only of real form and we have a swag of good kids coming in. Chances of being better than McAuliffe, Smillie, Lalor and Hotton and maybe a few others are pretty slim. If he is good enough he will come through, as you say, Campbell has.
 

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