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It does if he can't atleast halve the contest against his direct opponent which he fails to do now consistently. There were numerous times today where his direct opponent at a particular time beat him to the ball drop and left him behind from which they generated numerous inside 50 entries. The 'he is still the best contested mid at the club' line of thinking from the MC/whoever else inside the club who thinks that is dumb and is costing us valuable player development opportunities for the future, especially with the game moving to a heavily contested style.
Not to the extent that we dominate WB in the clearances and then get smashed by Port.

Was Redden the difference? I dunno, I don't like Priddis much and wish we turfed him to start our next midfield rebuild, but I can't see us suddenly winning today's game simply by replacing Priddis with Redden and giving Sheed more time on-ball.

It's convenient for the anti-Priddis group that we lost after we brought him in, but there are broader problems than Priddis.

We have no leader let alone leaders, and booting Priddis isn't necessarily going to fix that
 
Not to the extent that we dominate WB in the clearances and then get smashed by Port.

Was Redden the difference? I dunno, I don't like Priddis much and wish we turfed him to start our next midfield rebuild, but I can't see us suddenly winning today's game simply by replacing Priddis with Redden and giving Sheed more time on-ball.

It's convenient for the anti-Priddis group that we lost after we brought him in, but there are broader problems than Priddis.

We have no leader let alone leaders, and booting Priddis isn't necessarily going to fix that

I agree with what you are saying and definitely he isnt the only issue in our team (which I should have made more clearer) but my point was more the MC placing blind faith in him to play a role that he just can't perform to the required standard and more often than not, he ends up being the weak link that the opposition expose consistently.
 
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Didn't watch the game, all I have to go on is the children throwing tanties on here. Truth is we are not very good, anyone who thinks playing Redden instead of Priddis is the difference between winning and losing is off with the fairies. This is the same Redden everyone couldn't wait to see the back of a couple of weeks ago. Ditto for Cole replacing Hurn or Wellingham.
Simmo isn't covering himself in glory at the moment but the day he starts selecting the side according to the opinions of BF experts is the day he will be finished.

Agree with what you're saying to an extent, but if the truth is that we are not very good, why play the old players over the young ones? If we're no good with Priddis and co in the team than surely it should be clear that it's time to move past them and see if we can unearth the next generation of players that can take us somewhere. We might win a few less games, but at least we can start moving forward.
 

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+biggest positive -we lost
+second biggest -we lost
+third biggest -we lost

Negatives
-priddis mid year contract extension only for 1 year
-whilst we are well along the road to replicating the "success" of Fremantle we're not there yet. It will require significant dedication from the likes of Simpson and co
Is he the right man for the job?? Absolutely
 
Not to the extent that we dominate WB in the clearances and then get smashed by Port.

Was Redden the difference? I dunno, I don't like Priddis much and wish we turfed him to start our next midfield rebuild, but I can't see us suddenly winning today's game simply by replacing Priddis with Redden and giving Sheed more time on-ball.

It's convenient for the anti-Priddis group that we lost after we brought him in, but there are broader problems than Priddis.

We have no leader let alone leaders, and booting Priddis isn't necessarily going to fix that

Sure, but he's not part of the solution either. And arguably given his CV he'd be a leader, but he clearly isn't. So perhaps he's a bigger part of the problem than you suggest.

I think ruthlessness is something we as a club once had and it served us well. Players went earlier rather than later and we moved on. I think we then got old and comfortable at the head of the club and that trickles down.

And I think "thereabouts" has become enough for the club. For too long. I think the over estimation of Priddis as a footballer is part of that.

Just an opinion of course.

On your theme though Shannon Hurn was awful today. Awful because he was almost invisible.

I mean we get more fight and leadership from Mitch and Frank the Tank than almost anyone else at the club. And they should be retired.
 
Sure, but he's not part of the solution either. And arguably given his CV he'd be a leader, but he clearly isn't. So perhaps he's a bigger part of the problem than you suggest.

I think ruthlessness is something we as a club once had and it served us well. Players went earlier rather than later and we moved on. I think we then got old and comfortable at the head of the club and that trickles down.

And I think "thereabouts" has become enough for the club. For too long. I think the over estimation of Priddis as a footballer is part of that.

Just an opinion of course.

On your theme though Shannon Hurn was awful today. Awful because he was almost invisible.

I mean we get more fight and leadership from Mitch and Frank the Tank than almost anyone else at the club. And they should be retired.


Bring back the artitude that saw Woosha dropped for a final despite being captain. No way in hell we would do it presently
 
The 22 were completely undeserving of selection and awful structurally, for pace, for agility, for ball control, for anything really. WE LOST AT THE SELECTION. Before the bounce I said we were going to be overrun and needed an 8+ goal lead at 3qtr time. We didn't have it. We lost on the slip of paper the MC signed off. If we could publicly lynch the MC and it be legal I'd be in.
 
Agree with what you're saying to an extent, but if the truth is that we are not very good, why play the old players over the young ones? If we're no good with Priddis and co in the team than surely it should be clear that it's time to move past them and see if we can unearth the next generation of players that can take us somewhere. We might win a few less games, but at least we can start moving forward.
Is that the truth though? It's a very close season and we've been missing our best 2 players for large periods.

We should have two more wins and be in the top four with the Melbourne and GC games, but we aren't. We win today and we're fifth, instead we're ninth. It's such an even season that I think the MC (and a lot on here) are finding it difficult to place us.
 

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Not to the extent that we dominate WB in the clearances and then get smashed by Port.

Was Redden the difference? I dunno, I don't like Priddis much and wish we turfed him to start our next midfield rebuild, but I can't see us suddenly winning today's game simply by replacing Priddis with Redden and giving Sheed more time on-ball.

It's convenient for the anti-Priddis group that we lost after we brought him in, but there are broader problems than Priddis.

We have no leader let alone leaders, and booting Priddis isn't necessarily going to fix that
Lowest tackle count of the year, in our biggest game, shows a real mental problem that goes far beyond the Priddis issue.
 
Is that the truth though? It's a very close season and we've been missing our best 2 players for large periods.

We should have two more wins and be in the top four with the Melbourne and GC games, but we aren't. We win today and we're fifth, instead we're ninth. It's such an even season that I think the MC (and a lot on here) are finding it difficult to place us.


But we haven't won those games, if we were good enough we would have. The fact remains we have won 2 of 7 recently and keep persisting with the same crap each week.
 
Didn't watch the game, all I have to go on is the children throwing tanties on here. Truth is we are not very good, anyone who thinks playing Redden instead of Priddis is the difference between winning and losing is off with the fairies. This is the same Redden everyone couldn't wait to see the back of a couple of weeks ago. Ditto for Cole replacing Hurn or Wellingham.
Simmo isn't covering himself in glory at the moment but the day he starts selecting the side according to the opinions of BF experts is the day he will be finished.

Next year then? Demographics are death.


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From what I saw, our forwards were actually our better performers but the midfield was absolute trash.

Shuey - Shit game, probably his equal worst for the year, had zero impact until it was too late, I hope he's not injured in some way.

Priddis - Worse than Shuey, because even when he did get it, it was a shit 20m kick turnover or he just dropped it. The amount of times he was standing flat footed as people ran away from him was rubbish, we're playing one man down at every stoppage he's at.

Lycett / Vardy - Both crap, girly shit, getting pushed around like they weighed 80kg each. No impact around the ground and failed to defend Ryder on numerous occasions. Vardy needs a rest, he was shit against the Bulldogs as well barring the final 5 minutes.

Lecras/Darling - Surprisingly good, both stood up when they had their set shot chances to keep us in it, both deprived of opportunity. Those high kicks forward are not to either of Lecras' or Darling's advantage because they're not ****ing ruckmen, so disappointing to see them have the ball sat on their head and expect them to clunk a pack mark. I thought both showed signs.

Jetta - Was pure quality in possession but was a lot quieter than recent games, probably because of our piss poor midfield display.

Shepherd / Duggan - I said pre-game that it would be a case of too much being left to too few, I thought it would be Sheppingham who stood up but it was Duggperd. Shep got beat late but only because of the delivery being spot on from players under no pressure, after costly turnovers from others. He did everything he could and so did Duggan, but Duggan at full pace, again grubbers the ball, seriously needs to be looked at. Got very good distance on his shot for goal though.

McGovern - Don't play forward if you're too shit to back yourself in on a set shot from 50. The distance is not a problem and you'll kick better from that far out. He passed off a few shots for no reason except lack of confidence, one was lucky Darling got the banana but the others were bad.

Tall backs - Were pretty bad with the ball coming in so quick, yes it's the midfields fault today really but some closing speed and spacial awareness wouldn't go astray, they seemed lost and slow as ****. There was no run from the backline and we couldn't clear it, obvious selection **** up as far as I'm concerned.
 
Lately I've found it's the talls that have been doing a bit of damage...

Redpath 9 marks & 2 goals
McDonald - destroyed us
Stanley & Taylor - 3 goals & 2 goals
Lynch & Wright - 8 marks & 3 goals, 8 marks & 2 goals
Patton & Cameron - 7 marks & 2 goals each
Daniher - 5 goals
Redpath - 10 marks & 3 goals
Dixon - 10 marks & 3 goals
McCarthy & Kersten - 3 & 2 goals

And it goes on...

Pretty much every week the #1 goal scorer is their FF/CHF
Of course this will often be the case given they are there to kick goals, but it's been an issue given we have always had a somewhat tall backline.
This week with a stacked backline it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Quoting myself, but today was another tall taking us apart with Dixon's 5, and Ryder 2.

On paper we have great talls, are we overrating them?
Is our setup wrong?

Or, more likely, is there not enough pressure up the ground that teams can get on the fast break and get 1 out with their talls.

This needs to be sorted, every single week a tall kicks a bag and smashes us.
 

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