A thread on politics- have some balls and post

[M Malice]

They're the fattest, sickest country mainly because of corrupt idiots like RFK jr being so influential

RFK Jnr and his ilk are responsible for the obesity epidemic, I have learnt something today, I naively thought it was because of the garbage they stick down their throat and a lack of exercise.

 

[Nathan Barley]

RFK Jnr and his ilk are responsible for the obesity epidemic, I have learnt something today, I naively thought it was because of the garbage they stick down their throat and a lack of exercise.

Wow. This is just next level logic

So I guess the government doesn't need to do anything about health it's just up to the people to look after themselves by this logic. RFK jr isn't really required to shake up the system

You're the one that brought up Americans being obese to defend RFKs appointment. Then when challenged you say it has nothing to do with people like him

 

[M Malice]

Wow. This is just next level logic

So I guess the government doesn't need to do anything about health it's just up to the people to look after themselves by this logic. RFK jr isn't really required to shake up the system

Same with the borders. Americans should just not let them in

Personal responsibility has to come into it re obesity IMO, you shouldn't be laying back in your armchair chomping on doritos and guzzling coca cola waiting for the government to come solve it.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Personal responsibility has to come into it re obesity IMO, you shouldn't be laying back in your armchair chomping on doritos and guzzling coca cola waiting for the government to come solve it.

So that photo you posted has no relevance?

Unless you're saying that of course people who care little about their health would want a nutjob in charge of it?

 

[M Malice]

So that photo you posted has no relevance?

Unless you're saying that of course people who care little about their health would want a nutjob in charge of it?

It was a satirical piece Nathan which I thought was quite humorous.

The merits of whether RFK Jnr is a net positive re the abysmal health standards of the average United States citizen will be seen over the next 4 years, I wish him well.

 

[Dalions]

They're the fattest, sickest country mainly because of corrupt idiots like RFK jr being so influential

Or maybe they just make terrible life choices, all on their own.
Without the influences of any one person.
Or maybe they sit on their asses and watch McDonalds adds to much on tv and order Uber Eats.
Easy way out to blame RFK, let’s do that!

 

[Nathan Barley]

Or maybe they just make terrible life choices, all on their own.
Without the influences of any one person.
Or maybe they sit on their asses and watch McDonalds adds to much on tv and order Uber Eats.
Easy way out to blame RFK, let’s do that!

I didn't blame RFK.

 

[Dalions]

I didn't blame RFK.

Maybe in 4 years you will.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Maybe in 4 years you will.

In 4 years when autism is a thing of the past but Polio is running rampant?

 

[briztoon]

Perhaps if they didn't target innocent people by murdering and raping innocent people at a concert or in their villages on 7 October this crap wouldn't have started to the extent it now has where these nut jobs in Australia have only picked up their cause who in other words are endorsing their actions of murder, torture and rape because they were nowhere to be seen before then. Looking at a lot of their actions in Australia I can see why they endorse such behavior because they make out they are about peace and yet carry on and support murderers and rapists.

When they disrupt so many people going about their business such as visiting Xmas exhibits, stopping traffic just like the hypocritic no oil clowns, shutting down streets all over the country, then yeah I do care about these nut job leftist people who really hate Australia with the way they carry on and begs the question, why live here or do things that are just so hypocritical to your cause.

This is a discussion I’m very reluctant to engage in.

The establishment of Israel post WWII was a mistake and monumental **** up by the Western powers.

And Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians has been abhorrent ever since.

The world has turned a blind eye to the atrocities against the Palestinians ever since.

What happened on the 7th of October was terrible, but it was a reaction to 50 years of persecution, rape and murder by Jews against Palestinians.

 

[McIvor]

This is a discussion I’m very reluctant to engage in.

The establishment of Israel post WWII was a mistake and monumental **** up by the Western powers.

And Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians has been abhorrent ever since.

The world has turned a blind eye to the atrocities against the Palestinians ever since.

What happened on the 7th of October was terrible, but it was a reaction to 50 years of persecution, rape and murder by Jews against Palestinians.

Certainly not something I have a stake in and to be honest, not something I'm really interested; like most of these conflicts Australia isn't involved in and even more reason why these pro Palestinian apologists should take their grievances elsewhere instead of the streets of Australia which has zero bearing on the conflict over there and if anything is designed to create conflict here which is all these pro Palestian nut jobs have created and if anything have only turned more people against anything Palestine related including taking in more of its people.

Again, good on them for taking it to the man and stopping people seeing the Xmas windows at Myer in Melbourne. No doubt even more people will be against their garbage Palestine virtue signalling.

 

[rye]

I’m sure they’d protest in Gaza too if they weren’t being subjected to genocide and displacement.

As you say, you don’t care that this is happening, so why have so many opinions on it? Wouldn’t it be easier to just live in ignorance if you don’t care?

i dont know and dont care about anything beyond my ability to blame things i don't like on an amorphous group of people who are on the opposite team to me. hope this helps.

 

[M Malice]

I do not pretend to have an educated view or the desire to delve too deeply into any of these conflicts, war is hell and all too common in our history, sadly we are a brutal species.

https://acleddata.com/conflict-index/#map


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[Hollow Knight]

Perhaps if they didn't target innocent people by murdering and raping innocent people at a concert or in their villages on 7 October this crap wouldn't have started

Stopped reading there. This is your brain on Sky News.

The whole “If Oct 7th didn’t happen…” is one of the most blatant coordinated mainstream media propaganda psyops in recent memory.

Anyone who starts their analysis of the situation with “Oct 7th” is not a serious person, and are just part of perpetuating the great lie.

75 years of Nakba… nothing to see here.

October 7th just happened out of nowhere… no context needed guys.

 

[McIvor]

Stopped reading there. This is your brain on Sky News.

The whole “If Oct 7th didn’t happen…” is one of the most blatant coordinated mainstream media propaganda psyops in recent memory.

Anyone who starts their analysis of the situation with “Oct 7th” is not a serious person, and are just part of perpetuating the great lie.

75 years of Nakba… nothing to see here.

October 7th just happened out of nowhere… no context needed guys.

Like I give a monkey's crap about what happened over there like the vast majority of Australian's here, but yet we have to inconvenienced by left wing pro-Palestinian nut jobs carrying on and disrupting us with their rhetoric about something no one can do a thing about HERE.

Again, good on them for stopping hard working Aussies just trying to take their kiddies to see a Xmas exhibit. That'll learn them for daring to take their kids to see a free Xmas event.

As for 75 years of Nakba; absolutely, nothing to see here in Australia, not our problem, so why are these idiots trying to make it our problem?

 

[briztoon]

Like I give a monkey's crap about what happened over there like the vast majority of Australian's here, but yet we have to inconvenienced by left wing pro-Palestinian nut jobs carrying on and disrupting us with their rhetoric about something no one can do a thing about HERE.

Again, good on them for stopping hard working Aussies just trying to take their kiddies to see a Xmas exhibit. That'll learn them for daring to take their kids to see a free Xmas event.

As for 75 years of Nakba; absolutely, nothing to see here in Australia, not our problem, so why are these idiots trying to make it our problem?

How do you know they are left wing, and not just Palestinians?

 

[dlanod]

How do you know they are left wing, and not just Palestinians?

There's no such thing as a right wing Palestinian, obviously.

 

[Elixuh]

How do you know they are left wing, and not just Palestinians?

Only left wing people protest genocide, if they were right wing they'd be protesting plans to scrap negative gearing. I think thats how it works.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Like I give a monkey's crap about what happened over there

Then why did you weigh in on it with your Oct 7 comment then?

Was a pretty confident statement… you abandoned it very quickly.

If you genuinely don’t care about the innocent victims on either side, that’s a pretty brazen announcement of your complete lack of empathy.

As for 75 years of Nakba; absolutely, nothing to see here in Australia, not our problem, so why are these idiots trying to make it our problem?

Was the Holocaust also “not our problem”?

Or do you generally decide on a genocide by genocide basis?

 

[martinson]

I don't know who said it but the most apt observation of geopolitical history is that the road to hell has been paved with good intentions.

Without commenting on some of the hot takes on history and who did what put up here I think it's fair to say there are a lot more complexities and competing endemic cultural issues that led to the current untenable circumstances.

My main concern as a citizen of this country is where are we now and what happens next. I think it's gone too far for any easy solution. I can remember Kissinger and many others thinking they could negotiate a peaceful solution over 50 years ago so it certainly isn't going to happen now.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Complexity isn’t an excuse for inaction though. Ceasefires first, then continue to chip away at the complexities. Maybe starting with no more illegal settlements.

Let’s also not use “If Kissinger couldn’t solve it then no one can”. The man was a sociopathic monster.

 

[Jivlain]

Stopped reading there. This is your brain on Sky News.

The whole “If Oct 7th didn’t happen…” is one of the most blatant coordinated mainstream media propaganda psyops in recent memory.

Anyone who starts their analysis of the situation with “Oct 7th” is not a serious person, and are just part of perpetuating the great lie.

75 years of Nakba… nothing to see here.

October 7th just happened out of nowhere… no context needed guys.

I'm going to be honest, my brain got a bit broken by the brazeness of the propaganda and straight-out lying that have been the western government/media narrative regarding the Amsterdam incident. Like, sure, I've been reading some of the most absurd Hasbara for months in the proposed community notes on Twitter, that's one thing. The complete absence of historical context from reporting the "war", another.

But then, you've got a firm of football hooligans, disturbing the minute's silence, rampaging through the streets, chanting racist slogans, attacking people and destroying property. Typical ultra behaviour. But some people get together and stop them attacking whomever they like and that's basically Kristalnacht?

Absurd. It is Holocaust denial. It is an insult to the victims of Kristalnacht. And a direct insult to the intelligence of the citizens.

 

[martinson]

Complexity isn’t an excuse for inaction though. Ceasefires first, then continue to chip away at the complexities. Maybe starting with no more illegal settlements.

Let’s also not use “If Kissinger couldn’t solve it then no one can”. The man was a sociopathic monster.

I think you're putting words in my mouth there. I never said that at all.

Sociopathic monster is a strong term just the same.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Sociopathic monster is a strong term just the same.

I think Cambodians would say it isn’t nearly strong enough.

After that, we will get the Chileans, East Timorese, Bangladeshis and Argentinians to weigh in.

I can’t emphasise it enough, Kissinger is top 10 material for the title of history’s greatest piece of shit.

I think you're putting words in my mouth there. I never said that at all.

I’m not sure how else it can be interpreted?

 

[martinson]

I think Cambodians would say it isn’t nearly strong enough.

After that, we will get the Chileans, East Timorese, Bangladeshis and Argentinians to weigh in.

I can’t emphasise it enough, Kissinger is top 10 material for the title of history’s greatest pieces of shit.



I’m not sure how else it can be interpreted?

I inferred that he thought he could solve it ,which was more a comment on his ego and the significant political capital he had at the time.

No one's had a stronger political backdrop since , Not Reagan, Clinton ,Obama ,both Bushes ,any of them. As for anyone after that no comment.

Israel's a democratic country surrounded by despots and terrorists whose major lot in life is to kill all Jews. The last time someone wanted to do that no one helped them.

So here we are.