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Analysis Adam Goodes - the gentle art of making enemies
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Goodes is a pole smoker
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It's a thread about one of my team's players - why not?Any yet you're still here!
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O.K....Good answer....Now, anything interesting or of relevance to say on the matter....Other than attempting to troll our board & it's posters?
Please....Feel free to enlighten us with your perspective on the matter.
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I'm sick of hearing about his wanky dance he performed with as much style as a bogan on the SCG... Those Carltank fans were beyond angry... Way to go and make those Carltank boys angrier than they are.like.... Why give goodes the air time on this he's just a no good tosser of a footballer an EVERYBODY hates him.the day he retires sweet Lordy Jesus the day has come!!!!not a minute too soon.
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Are you serious? All these posts vilifying an (albeit faded) star of my team, and I'm a troll for asking about it?
Anyway, someone already answered my question - good to know you have some decent types in your ranks.
For the record, I don't think Goodes puts half as much thought into what he does as the commentators (paid or armchair) do. He's probably not the brightest of blokes going around, and he might not think through the consequences of his actions too well. It's not his fault he was awarded Australian of the Year - someone obviously thought him standing up for his own people merited an award. Then again, I'm not sure what people think booing him will achieve - it's a bit like the children in the audience of a pantomime booing the villain - it won't make him go away any faster.
He's just a successful player and some of that success may have gone to his head (vivid memories of him taking on a few too many tacklers days after he won the brownlow in 2006). It's not really surprising - if anything it's surprising it isn't more common.
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YOU LEFT OUT THE NO' 1 & NO'2 TICKET-HOLDERS....The AFL BRASS & Goodes himself.
Fk me I found myself liking a post from a Sydney supporter. You're not really from Sydney are you, old South Melbourne? Thanks for not trying to justify the state of things or fabricate a story into something else.
I too used to like Goodes too a while ago, trying to remember now when the respect and admiration was there. Definately pre 2010 or as close to 08. Havn't thought about the when I lost it so much. It's hard to remember the good things after the last few years. I'm sure later in life he will reflect on this period of his life and regret some things and no doubt apologise for some too. Will have to want and see I suppose, I wonder if Mike will be around by then to do the interview?
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Thank you. You too.
I got a reply to mainboard Censorship. Full reply below the caption.
There were other threads on the topic. To use still photos to show a player was/wasn't looking at the ball is nonsense and flawed.
This was the still I used. I had a question asking if Goodes was going for the footy why are his eyes closed, I guess some players can at times close the eyes late in a contest. That said he's a long way from the pill and for mine had no chance in making that play for the ball. Somewhat similar to the Gibson incident, knowingly too late and went for the player instead.
Thanks for the response, the threads on the main board were all about Adam Goodes, this thread wasn't about him, it was for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. It was the first and only thread that defended Hawthorn supporters against the unjustified and belligerent media who have been labeling Hawthorn supporters racists without investigating or provided context or perspective.
It's pretty damning on the integrity of this site to have it censored in such a way. All week the media has been running this why do they do it story, I did not post about this earlier in the week, expecting that everyone knows but doesn't want to be the one to say it. It was only when we started getting articles condemning our supporters and being called racists that I put this thread up. I hope this site isn't as biased as the media have been, none have explored the real reasons and we know there's plenty others I could've added on other issues but I didn't want to create any problems with opinions and perceptions and kept it purely to the footy and the tribunal. I kept to the facts of what had happened prior to the issue occurring, only mentioning historically what had happened throughout a 2 year period and what had been missed in video and stills.
As for the stills, the use of those was to show what had been happening so often and to highlight that it was never discussed or sent to the tribunal which was the other issue that hadn't been discussed previously.
If all that leaves is the problem with the caption underneath the second image, I'm happy to have that question removed or re worded if you agree to reinstate the thread. The image shows Goodes sliding knees out across the grass after collecting Rioli with a distressed look on his face. Goodes eyes were closed and I wondered how he was going to get the ball if that was his target. Would "Rioli in distress, Goodes can't find the footy" be okay? A little humour can be good sometimes, doesn't have to be so serious all the time. This issue of racism is serious though and I think the point is the supporters of Hawthorn should have a thread of there own in the mainboard which hopefully any ill informed or educated can find and make an opinion of their own.
I also think it would be great for bigfooty to see this thread reinstated in it's entirety. You might actually restore some belief in the ideals that were once protected and that free speech isn't quite dead yet. If you're worried about things getting out of hand it might help that any whinging about it being an Adam Goodes thread be removed. A moderator warning could be added to keep it on topic as to the right of defense for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. I can moderate it for you too if you see fit if that's a concern.
There were other threads on the topic. To use still photos to show a player was/wasn't looking at the ball is nonsense and flawed.
This was the still I used. I had a question asking if Goodes was going for the footy why are his eyes closed, I guess some players can at times close the eyes late in a contest. That said he's a long way from the pill and for mine had no chance in making that play for the ball. Somewhat similar to the Gibson incident, knowingly too late and went for the player instead.
Thanks for the response, the threads on the main board were all about Adam Goodes, this thread wasn't about him, it was for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. It was the first and only thread that defended Hawthorn supporters against the unjustified and belligerent media who have been labeling Hawthorn supporters racists without investigating or provided context or perspective.
It's pretty damning on the integrity of this site to have it censored in such a way. All week the media has been running this why do they do it story, I did not post about this earlier in the week, expecting that everyone knows but doesn't want to be the one to say it. It was only when we started getting articles condemning our supporters and being called racists that I put this thread up. I hope this site isn't as biased as the media have been, none have explored the real reasons and we know there's plenty others I could've added on other issues but I didn't want to create any problems with opinions and perceptions and kept it purely to the footy and the tribunal. I kept to the facts of what had happened prior to the issue occurring, only mentioning historically what had happened throughout a 2 year period and what had been missed in video and stills.
As for the stills, the use of those was to show what had been happening so often and to highlight that it was never discussed or sent to the tribunal which was the other issue that hadn't been discussed previously.
If all that leaves is the problem with the caption underneath the second image, I'm happy to have that question removed or re worded if you agree to reinstate the thread. The image shows Goodes sliding knees out across the grass after collecting Rioli with a distressed look on his face. Goodes eyes were closed and I wondered how he was going to get the ball if that was his target. Would "Rioli in distress, Goodes can't find the footy" be okay? A little humour can be good sometimes, doesn't have to be so serious all the time. This issue of racism is serious though and I think the point is the supporters of Hawthorn should have a thread of there own in the mainboard which hopefully any ill informed or educated can find and make an opinion of their own.
I also think it would be great for bigfooty to see this thread reinstated in it's entirety. You might actually restore some belief in the ideals that were once protected and that free speech isn't quite dead yet. If you're worried about things getting out of hand it might help that any whinging about it being an Adam Goodes thread be removed. A moderator warning could be added to keep it on topic as to the right of defense for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. I can moderate it for you too if you see fit if that's a concern.
The more reporting I see in the media the more I feel that this world is just mad. Mad in a batshit crazy kinda way.
The people that are playing the race card and ignoring inconvenient facts around the issue are not leaders at all. They're the same types that would have perpetuated racial prejudices 100 years ago if that was the popular view. Just playing that game.
The people that are playing the race card and ignoring inconvenient facts around the issue are not leaders at all. They're the same types that would have perpetuated racial prejudices 100 years ago if that was the popular view. Just playing that game.
I got a reply to mainboard Censorship. Full reply below the caption.
There were other threads on the topic. To use still photos to show a player was/wasn't looking at the ball is nonsense and flawed.
This was the still I used. I had a question asking if Goodes was going for the footy why are his eyes closed, I guess some players can at times close the eyes late in a contest. That said he's a long way from the pill and for mine had no chance in making that play for the ball. Somewhat similar to the Gibson incident, knowingly too late and went for the player instead.
Thanks for the response, the threads on the main board were all about Adam Goodes, this thread wasn't about him, it was for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. It was the first and only thread that defended Hawthorn supporters against the unjustified and belligerent media who have been labeling Hawthorn supporters racists without investigating or provided context or perspective.
It's pretty damning on the integrity of this site to have it censored in such a way. All week the media has been running this why do they do it story, I did not post about this earlier in the week, expecting that everyone knows but doesn't want to be the one to say it. It was only when we started getting articles condemning our supporters and being called racists that I put this thread up. I hope this site isn't as biased as the media have been, none have explored the real reasons and we know there's plenty others I could've added on other issues but I didn't want to create any problems with opinions and perceptions and kept it purely to the footy and the tribunal. I kept to the facts of what had happened prior to the issue occurring, only mentioning historically what had happened throughout a 2 year period and what had been missed in video and stills.
As for the stills, the use of those was to show what had been happening so often and to highlight that it was never discussed or sent to the tribunal which was the other issue that hadn't been discussed previously.
If all that leaves is the problem with the caption underneath the second image, I'm happy to have that question removed or re worded if you agree to reinstate the thread. The image shows Goodes sliding knees out across the grass after collecting Rioli with a distressed look on his face. Goodes eyes were closed and I wondered how he was going to get the ball if that was his target. Would "Rioli in distress, Goodes can't find the footy" be okay? A little humour can be good sometimes, doesn't have to be so serious all the time. This issue of racism is serious though and I think the point is the supporters of Hawthorn should have a thread of there own in the mainboard which hopefully any ill informed or educated can find and make an opinion of their own.
I also think it would be great for bigfooty to see this thread reinstated in it's entirety. You might actually restore some belief in the ideals that were once protected and that free speech isn't quite dead yet. If you're worried about things getting out of hand it might help that any whinging about it being an Adam Goodes thread be removed. A moderator warning could be added to keep it on topic as to the right of defense for Hawthorn supporters who are not racists. I can moderate it for you too if you see fit if that's a concern.
Free speech is alive and well...as long as the mob and the govt agree with it.
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I agree. I haven't read anything Robbo has written but I have heard him talking about the issue on the radio. The guy has no idea and is just parroting the popular media line. One minute he is saying the booing is racist and the next minute he is making patronising comments towards indigenous people. Would not have a clue.
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I don't get why it is that if people dislike Goodes that they must be rasict.
What about when we boo Bartel or Chapman? Are we racists then?
Shit bloke. Shit argument.
What about when we boo Bartel or Chapman? Are we racists then?
Shit bloke. Shit argument.
Just quietly, didn't hear anyone booing the GC Indigenous lads today in Launceston.
It speaks volumes that the Herald-Sun appointed a bloke that sounds like he's constantly intoxicated as chief football writer.
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I don't boo Goodes and I will not, never, ever waste a breath booing him. I don't like him, I don't agree with him bringing his views onto the football field. All his carrying on, especially the last two rounds HE has made all about race. Anyone who doesn't agree with him and all that he believes in is deemed racist. So I must be racist...
Easier to admit to being a racist (even if you're not) than trying to prove to an accuser that you're not.
I found out that the definition had changed from 'judging someone on their race' to 'not liking their character'. Martin Luther King Jr certainly had it wrong.
I'm just astounded by the "logic" some media have made that if you boo Goodes it can be for no other reason than racism. Incredibly narrow minded attitude from the media. In the first quarter tonight, the Adelaide crowd were booing a Fremantle goal. Was that racist as well? According to the media, racism is the only reason to boo. I'm almost as confused as the media appear to be.
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I'm not going to cheer for someone that I do not believe plays the game in the spirit it should be played.
Well to be honest I don't like Goodes because of his arrogant attitude and some of his extreme political views.
That whole Hakka thing was a pretty poor, and funnily enough it proves what Hawks supporters have been saying all along, which is, that he is a tool.
I don't think I'm a racist, but I have no problems booing Adam Goodes. When at the footy I'm not shouting racial obsentities at him, I'm voicing my right to boo a football player, playing professional football and earning money from my ticket.
No one can tell me to stop, its my right as a tax paying, football paying Australian citizen to voice my displeasure at a player I don't like. I booed Matthew Lloyd relentlessly and never got told to stop that (except maybe in the members once).
I dispise the AFL and the media for telling me how to behave. Particularly as booing is a right for football supporters and in any other public forum wouldn't even get a second glance.
It is not swearing or culturally insenstive.
To be honest, the media (particularly Caroline Wilson), the AFL and the Sydney Swans can all get stuffed (or other words to that effect).
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That whole Hakka thing was a pretty poor, and funnily enough it proves what Hawks supporters have been saying all along, which is, that he is a tool.
I don't think I'm a racist, but I have no problems booing Adam Goodes. When at the footy I'm not shouting racial obsentities at him, I'm voicing my right to boo a football player, playing professional football and earning money from my ticket.
No one can tell me to stop, its my right as a tax paying, football paying Australian citizen to voice my displeasure at a player I don't like. I booed Matthew Lloyd relentlessly and never got told to stop that (except maybe in the members once).
I dispise the AFL and the media for telling me how to behave. Particularly as booing is a right for football supporters and in any other public forum wouldn't even get a second glance.
It is not swearing or culturally insenstive.
To be honest, the media (particularly Caroline Wilson), the AFL and the Sydney Swans can all get stuffed (or other words to that effect).
(End of Rant)...
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If you were watching AFL 360 on players night...the topic was raised and the question posed to Goddard & Lewis..What do you think of the booing of Adam Goodes ?..Before anyone could answer he was already saying ' There was racial/racist undertones'...NOT...a small or minor section of the Hawks crowd.....So put 2 & 2 together...Hawthorn & Racist/Racial..In the world of journalism it only takes A FEW KEY words and a fair whack of SENSATIONALIST BULLSHIT ...and gullible people will forever entwine the two...I don't like Goodes but loved O'loughlin...would you like me to elaborate on why..?? or can you work it out yourself...I'll give you 2 clues..The word CHAMPION is used all too often on unworthy people and I've been a Goodes non-fan for years before this crap surfaced...too many HAWKS people think he is simply not a champion...
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