Multiplat AFL 23 - Part 2 with added Pro Team

[Kidneykid95]

Seems like patch notes are out already .. not sure how to feel about it.. thoughts??

ITS GONE LIVE ALSO! Just got it on PS5 = 1.7GB

 

[carn tigez]

Sorry, not sure of your point.

The one I'm making is, I don't think we can realistically expect BA to design a system where it feels fun/fair/satisfying that your 20th hard tackle for the game - where there has been the occasional free kick in the 19 prior - now gives your best player ten weeks off.

If you had longer than 0.25 of a second to see that you were about to tackle with the wrong player, then sure. Inside of a pack that is not going to happen.

My point is, how is that any less fair than your player doing an ACL on their 20th tackle for the game?

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

I wouldn’t bother with adding suspensions & in to seasons/career

The way CD has rated players/teams, it’ll have no impact


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[Dr Jan Itor]

I wouldn’t bother with adding suspensions & in to seasons/career

The way CD has rated players/teams, it’ll have no impact


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I want injuries and suspensions just so I have to pick a different 23 each week.
Would love to have Lynch go down for 6 weeks and have to “move the magnets” around. Do I play Ryan out of the square and bring in Soldo as back up ruck or bring in Bauer or play a smaller forward line?
That’s what makes management mode fun for me personally.
Having forced changes

 

[jc12]

Appears management career has been built around champion data & any changes would break it (contracts, player salaries, player development)

Season mode doesn’t need to worry about that stuff

Hopefully it changes because it desperately needs to


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Wasn't salaries and contracts in the last game too yet it was editable.

Imo I think big ant knows that if they allow us to edit it it'll **** this game up more beyond repair

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

Oh man, get home from work, as a ps5 user am looking forward to tactics patch which we didn’t get yesterday, but then I read the game is no good with the specky patch added. Guess the wait continues for another day

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Oh man, get home from work, as a ps5 user am looking forward to tactics patch which we didn’t get yesterday, but then I read the game is no good with the specky patch added. Guess the wait continues for another day

At least by not getting this patch we might miss the day or two where a lot of people were frustrated at the state it was in

 

[Monfries7]

ok nice, I didn't know that!

So based on that with 2K for example, then it makes sense as to why players stats may be editable in all game modes as their is no official license for them so not bound to anything.


Honestly its a lose/lose for any developer with player stats as it is all subjective to each individuals opinion.

Either way people aren't happy in some capacity, it's just the nature of player rankings in games I guess.

Have loved your content throughout this release but need to disagree with your positioning on this.

Stats being “subject to each persons opinion”

And

“A lot of people want to edit stats but a lot also want them kept the same”

Is the exact reason you have the option of editing them. People enjoy the game in different ways.

Champion data are notorious for being flawed. Just gotta look at the public reaction when players like Switkowski were ranked as elites few years ago. (Sorry Sam, just an example)

Champion data stats would still have a place in online/default play/those that want it.

 

[FiveFaa]

I actually feel sorry for the people who are still defending big ant.

For starters they have done loads of work to the game and hats off to them making the game better for us to play.

Just be thankful that we get a AFL GAME TO PLAY.

 

[Kidneykid95]

as a ps5 user am looking forward to tactics patch which we didn’t get yesterday, but then I read the game is no good with the specky patch added. Guess the wait continues for another day

That's how I felt when I was watching the stream from last night and the specky patch not working properly. I'd rather wait that extra bit though knowing they are fixing that particular part of the issue

 

[Monfries7]

Plus, with no custom teams in management mode any content creation dreams of building Tasmania into a dynasty are gone

 

[Coxy_]

serious question, have all the other sports games that allow it have the player stats generated by the official stats partner of the league?

or was it just based on the respective dev teams workshopping at coming up with the numbers?


I genuinely don't know the answer.

Serious question, do you think Robbie Tarrant has more leg speed than Josh Gibcus?

I don’t give a shit about Champion Data. The ratings on this game look as though it’s based on the overall CD rating of each player and certain individual attributes of players have suffered as a result.

That’s why people want to edit stats. Not to make a super team, to fix certain areas that are just not accurate no matter how much stock you put into Champion Data

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Serious question, do you think Robbie Tarrant has more leg speed than Josh Gibcus?

I don’t give a s**t about Champion Data. The ratings on this game look as though it’s based on the overall CD rating of each player and certain individual attributes of players have suffered as a result.

That’s why people want to edit stats. Not to make a super team, to fix certain areas that are just not accurate no matter how much stock you put into Champion Data

This is exactly my point earlier. I rate Gibcus far higher than Tarrant in my career mode I’d like to be able to reflect my personal ratings

 

[Michaels]

Have loved your content throughout this release but need to disagree with your positioning on this.

Stats being “subject to each persons opinion”

And

“A lot of people want to edit stats but a lot also want them kept the same”

Is the exact reason you have the option of editing them. People enjoy the game in different ways.

Champion data are notorious for being flawed. Just gotta look at the public reaction when players like Switkowski were ranked as elites few years ago. (Sorry Sam, just an example)

Champion data stats would still have a place in online/default play/those that want it.

I have no issue in people wanting to enjoy the game in different ways.

Unfortunately though giving that option to edit stats in all modes isn't an option in the current environment for reasons outlined earlier, that's all I'm try to convey is the reasons as to why.

By no means do people have to like the why or agree with the why, but unfortunately at this point in time that's just how it is, having a licensed stat provided which is a league partner obviously has some pros and cons from what we have uncovered the last few pages!


I agree there is hopefully some middle ground to be had here.

 

[Michaels]

Serious question, do you think Robbie Tarrant has more leg speed than Josh Gibcus?

I don’t give a s**t about Champion Data. The ratings on this game look as though it’s based on the overall CD rating of each player and certain individual attributes of players have suffered as a result.

That’s why people want to edit stats. Not to make a super team, to fix certain areas that are just not accurate no matter how much stock you put into Champion Data

Depends on which stage of the rehab both players are in currently..

but seriously, I completely understand why everyone wants to do it because most of us don't agree with a lot of the stats provided not just in the game but in general CD info we see day to day, I get it, I understand it.

But all I'm giving is the why this isn't possible at this moment in time.

People don't have to like that, but I feel the quicker they get their head around the why the less frustrated they might be? Maybe not though.

Just simply providing context.

 

[ItsJonesy777]

I know everyone has their grievances but the final straw for me was Ross quite openly admitting that online fixes have taken a back seat to offline play which to me is a joke. If you’re going to offer a mode in your game, at least make it playable.

Online is an absolute mess and I seriously can’t see it being ready before (if ever) Xbox releases let alone getting cross-play working and in a decent state before Pro Teams……the reason solo career was scrapped.

We’ve got updates coming out with specky variations, ball colours, hair styles meanwhile in online matches we have:

• AI playing on for you;
• Speccies never being paid;
• Players breaking tackles left-right-centre;
• Incorrect disposals are play-on;
• Push in the Backs are play-in;
• High tackles, you guessed it, play-on;
• Handballs still going all over the place;
• Short stab passes heading out of bounds;
• Teleporting is still a thing;
• Players taking a mark able to play-on immediately while the player on the mark is frozen in place;
• Players unresponsive to anything happening around them.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head so to me it appears the only actual mode that’s complete is Play Now!!!!

 

[Monfries7]

I have no issue in people wanting to enjoy the game in different ways.

Unfortunately though giving that option to edit stats in all modes isn't an option in the current environment for reasons outlined earlier, that's all I'm try to convey is the reasons as to why.

By no means do people have to like the why or agree with the why, but unfortunately at this point in time that's just how it is, having a licensed stat provided which is a league partner obviously has some pros and cons from what we have uncovered the last few pages!


I agree there is hopefully some middle ground to be had here.

The way I enjoy a game is exclusively within a management mode. I have no interest in online or single season - this is the case on FIFA and 2k also, and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat. That’s why I’m quite passionate about this.

The fact that you aren’t able to be creative within a management mode: build new teams, use custom grounds, change player stats to make teams feel different, edit draft prospects are all things that severely limit the experience and longevity I have with this game.

If that is a limitation with the champion data partnership, then it isn’t worth the downside if that’s truly the case

 

[Frothiewalker]

For starters they have done loads of work to the game and hats off to them making the game better for us to play.

Just be thankful that we get a AFL GAME TO PLAY.

Triggered dude ? Or is this Ross ?

 

[FiveFaa]

Triggered dude ? Or is this Ross ?

Nah bro it's Shay like I said the game has gotten better and for me I'm enjoying it.

 

[Michaels]

The way I enjoy a game is exclusively within a management mode. I have no interest in online or single season - this is the case on FIFA and 2k also, and I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat. That’s why I’m quite passionate about this.

The fact that you aren’t able to be creative within a management mode: build new teams, use custom grounds, change player stats to make teams feel different, edit draft prospects are all things that severely limit the experience and longevity I have with this game.

If that is a limitation with the champion data partnership, then it isn’t worth the downside if that’s truly the case

Yeah I get it I really do like I said.

Management still needs a lot of the regulation features to give it some depth for sure.

and I suppose to my points in earlier posts, the reasons why we are able to edit players in FIFA and NBA is because their stats are devised by the devs in a room workshopping it via their own metrics, and not driven by the league and the leagues official stat partner (rightly or wrongly)

That I suppose is where the frustrating piece begins for a few.

Like I said though, hopefully some middle ground is found ASAP on it!

 

[Archer_11]

My point is, how is that any less fair than your player doing an ACL on their 20th tackle for the game?

Because there would be the perception the outcome can be avoided. In practice it won't be the case, hence not loading up the penalty.

The injury equivalent would be something like Joe Bloggs will rupture his hernia if he does a speccy, but all your other players will miss a week or two at most. I'd hazard a guess that BA are not doing that type of modelling.

 

[lochip16]

BigAntStudios any chance we get crossplay in the next couple of patches? Or will that happen when Xbox comes through?

 

[CraigMc24]

Since alot of people “on here” want to be able to change a players stats in management mode, do we actually know how many people outside of here want to be able to do it?
I think the community in here has to realise we are only a small portion of the games user base. It may be a nice to have option in management mode, but I doubt it’s as big of an issue as some on here make it out to be.

I even trawled through the Oz Gaming AFL 23 page on Facebook and have yet to see anyone on there complain about it or even ask for it. I’m guessing outside of here there probably isn’t many people requesting it enough, for it to be a big issue for Big Ant to address, atleast in the short term.

I guess for now, it is what it is and we should probs concerns ourselves with other issues with the game right now, ie getting the best version of the gameplay.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Since alot of people “on here” want to be able to change a players stats in management mode, do we actually know how many people outside of here want to be able to do it?
I think the community in here has to realise we are only a small portion of the games user base. It may be a nice to have option in management mode, but I doubt it’s as big of an issue as some on here make it out to be.

I even trawled through the Oz Gaming AFL 23 page on Facebook and have yet to see anyone on there complain about it or even ask for it. I’m guessing outside of here there probably isn’t many people requesting it enough, for it to be a big issue for Big Ant to address, atleast in the short term.

I guess for now, it is what it is and we should probs concerns ourselves with other issues with the game right now, ie getting the best version of the gameplay.

In fairness most of that page is making even the more negative posters in here look like they’re praising the game.
At least the majority of negative posters in here still contribute opinions on what can be improved as opposed to Facebook people just saying “the game is f**cken shit”

 

[CraigMc24]

In fairness most of that page is making even the more negative posters in here look like they’re praising the game.
At least the majority of negative posters in here still contribute opinions on what can be improved as opposed to Facebook people just saying “the game is f**cken s**t”

Oh I know, I was trying to gauge that page aswell to see how much of an issue not being able to edit players in management mode is. I don’t think it is as big of an issue for the average person playing the game. I think it’s more of an issue for the hardcore fan who is more likely to get on here. I could be wrong though…

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Oh I know, I was trying to gauge that page aswell to see how much of an issue not being able to edit players in management mode is. I don’t think it is as big of an issue for the average person playing the game. I think it’s more for the hardcore fan who gets on here. I could be wrong though…

I definitely get what you’re saying.
But I think also that the bigfooty posters are the more passionate consumer base for BA.
Despite the frustration and at times over the top comments on here I feel most of it is with the best interests of the game at heart.