Discussion AFL Supercoach 2024 Bye Rounds Fixture Solution

[DEESNUTSRBIG]

Round Zero - Top 10 scores count
Round 2, 3, 5, 6 - Top 20 scores count

9 games/22 scores = 40.9%
8 games/20 scores = 40%
4 games/10 scores = 40%


Starting team 30 players / 9 = 3.33 x4 = 13.3 players

So starting teams will need about 13 players playing in round zero. Although plenty of strategy could come into it depending how players score in the early games. The last game of the round Coll vs GWS could see teams adding or swapping players out depending on their score from the first 3 matches. If the rookies do well in the early games might only need 11 or 12 players playing in round zero. Or if a team gets multiple dud rookie scores might want to bring in a another playing premo or two.


11-14 players from Melb/Syd, Carl/Bris, Rich/GC, Coll/GWS for your starting teams seems ok, not great but ok.

 

[jdstorm]

Man this is tough for rookies since none of those teams have good/viable rookies.

 

[DEESNUTSRBIG]

Man this is tough for rookies since none of those teams have good/viable rookies.

7-8 premos and 2-3 mid pricers and you are done for the round. Plenty of good value premos playing in round zero to choose from.
In all seriousness rookies always pop up even from better teams.
I would likely start 12 players for round zero so only need 2 rookies.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Round Zero - Top 10 scores count
Round 2, 3, 5, 6 - Top 20 scores count

9 games/22 scores = 40.9%
8 games/20 scores = 40%
4 games/10 scores = 40%


Starting team 30 players / 9 = 3.33 x4 = 13.3 players

So starting teams will need about 13 players playing in round zero. Although plenty of strategy could come into it depending how players score in the early games. The last game of the round Coll vs GWS could see teams adding or swapping players out depending on their score from the first 3 matches. If the rookies do well in the early games might only need 11 or 12 players playing in round zero. Or if a team gets multiple dud rookie scores might want to bring in a another playing premo or two.


11-14 players from Melb/Syd, Carl/Bris, Rich/GC, Coll/GWS for your starting teams seems ok, not great but ok.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Round Zero - Top 10 scores count
Round 2, 3, 5, 6 - Top 20 scores count

9 games/22 scores = 40.9%
8 games/20 scores = 40%
4 games/10 scores = 40%


Starting team 30 players / 9 = 3.33 x4 = 13.3 players

So starting teams will need about 13 players playing in round zero. Although plenty of strategy could come into it depending how players score in the early games. The last game of the round Coll vs GWS could see teams adding or swapping players out depending on their score from the first 3 matches. If the rookies do well in the early games might only need 11 or 12 players playing in round zero. Or if a team gets multiple dud rookie scores might want to bring in a another playing premo or two.


11-14 players from Melb/Syd, Carl/Bris, Rich/GC, Coll/GWS for your starting teams seems ok, not great but ok.

Thank god we still have 3-4 months to digest this post .....great work though !

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think some form of what you proposed would be decent. Agree with round 0 best 10. Would just go best 18 for all the other bye rounds to not over complicate it.

 

[turtles]

Just make all rounds including bye rounds and opening round best 22.
Simplest for them to program. Fairest with all players having all their scores valid.

Can chose to have 22 playing in one bye round and score more but punished by having less players in other bye rounds.
Can spread your bye players out as much as possible and save trades or play aggressive and burn sideways trades.

 

[Significant]

Just make all rounds including bye rounds and opening round best 22.
Simplest for them to program. Fairest with all players having all their scores valid.

Can chose to have 22 playing in one bye round and score more but punished by having less players in other bye rounds.
Can spread your bye players out as much as possible and save trades or play aggressive and burn sideways trades.

When given the option, I also choose violence.

 

[turtles]

When given the option, I also choose violence.

We all get 4 forced zeros during bye rounds anyway.
If teams manage to field more than 18 during a bye round why shouldn't they be rewarded?

 

[Jars458]

Round zero shouldn’t count would be the starting point. That would simplify immensely. Otherwise I might go with auto pick this year. (Yes yes same as every other year )

 

[WaynesWorld19]

How would this work in Supercoach .....I like the idea of encouraging early involvement

 

[turtles]

Round 0 carry over points?
Make a team for round 0 but no score for round 0. Player scores in your round 0 team can then be fielded during their bye.

If i have Walsh round 0 and scores 150, i can field him round 2 in his bye and get his 150 score.
But if i dont field him round 0, even if i then trade and field him in his round 2 bye i get 0.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Round 0 carry over points?
Make a team for round 0 but no score for round 0. Player scores in your round 0 team can then be fielded during their bye.

If i have Walsh round 0 and scores 150, i can field him round 2 in his bye and get his 150 score.
But if i dont field him round 0, even if i then trade and field him in his round 2 bye i get 0.

Would be ideal, but imagine that falls in the too hard basket for them to program.

 

[esoteric]

Would be ideal, but imagine that falls in the too hard basket for them to program.

Not hard at all. I'm doing just that in a keeper league. Just like having a bunch of Thursday night games and locking the scores in for later the same round.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Not hard at all. I'm doing just that in a keeper league. Just like having a bunch of Thursday night games and locking the scores in for later the same round.

You tell that to Timmy Michell and the crew, he'll have a cry and block ya haha

 

[turtles]

Would be ideal, but imagine that falls in the too hard basket for them to program.

They still use this for the eagles players even though haven't worn that guernsey since 2015;

If they cant even fix that, then i too have little faith in their programming abilities to solve the round zero bye

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

They still use this for the eagles players even though haven't worn that guernsey since 2015;
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If they cant even fix that, then i too have little faith in their programming abilities to solve the round zero bye

All they seem to do is "best 18" and more trades.

Th opening being a bit later than the last few years makes me optimistic they are going to do something different.

 

[Eagling]

Opening Round + Round 1 is a split round system.

Players from clubs that play the opening round utilise a trade to trade out.

Overall squad size is increased to 36, all via bench positions (two extra defenders and forwards, an extra midfielder, an extra ruck).

Base Trades per week is increased to 3.

Maybe increase overall trades? Not too sure.

Starting $ increased to $12M.

Opening Round: Best 15
Early bye rounds: Best 20
Other Bye Rounds: Best 18

You must select 16 players from opening round clubs. You can select more, but obviously there's diminishing returns with Best 15, and any opening round players you select cost a trade to trade out in Round 1.

Either the rest of the squad is filled with Round 1 players, or left blank, depending on the software.

We need a system that isn't too swingy, that neither makes opening round irrelevant nor absolutely vital for the whole season. Diluting the impact by increasing the number of selections I think is the way to go.

 

[TryAnHit]

Have they announced what they are doing yet.

 

[Northernsoul74]

Have they announced what they are doing yet.

Yes. Starting round 1 not round 0.
KFC SUPERCOACH START 2024

• The KFC SuperCoach AFL season will begin in round 1, and not in Opening Round.
• Opening Round stats will be taken into account for price changes and live scoring in some form will be available to SC Plus subscribers during the four matches.
• It will best 18 scoring for all bye rounds, including the two-team bye weekends in rounds 2, 3, 5 and 6.
• Any changes in the number of allocated trades will be confirmed in January, along with full gameplay details for 2024.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Yes. Starting round 1 not round 0.
KFC SUPERCOACH START 2024

• The KFC SuperCoach AFL season will begin in round 1, and not in Opening Round.
• Opening Round stats will be taken into account for price changes and live scoring in some form will be available to SC Plus subscribers during the four matches.
• It will best 18 scoring for all bye rounds, including the two-team bye weekends in rounds 2, 3, 5 and 6.
• Any changes in the number of allocated trades will be confirmed in January, along with full gameplay details for 2024.

You going to give it a lash this year?

 

[Northernsoul74]

You going to give it a lash this year?

Unsure… probably

 

[Jiska]

Official details here: Teams - 2024 Rate My Pre-Season Team