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[faible]

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

would be a terrible get. Plz no.

 

[Keystone agony]

If we’re not fitting Tsatas in the side what the hell are we doing with Smith?

We clearly don’t want that kind of player for that kind of role.

Its not about 'kind of player', more so about quality

Baz can play far more roles than Tsatas

 

[Zach Package]

Its not about 'kind of player', more so about quality

Baz can play far more roles than Tsatas

He wouldn’t start in our midfield, that part is abundantly clear, and we don’t play the extra midfielder that comes up to the stoppage from half back or half forward.

The way we deliberately set the ground up doesn’t suit Smith sliding in.

 

[Keystone agony]

He wouldn’t start in our midfield, that part is abundantly clear, and we don’t play the extra midfielder that comes up to the stoppage from half back or half forward.

The way we deliberately set the ground up doesn’t suit Smith sliding in.

He could play half back, wing

Or half forward with a rotation onball

He fits into any side

 

[Zach Package]

He could play half back, wing

Or half forward with a rotation onball

He fits into any side

He absolutely could, but think about this logically. Tsatas is made for that bench/half forward extra mid role, not utilised, likewise Hobbs, not utilised.

Why blow another first rounder on something we actually already know we can’t get the best out of, what’s the point?

 

[andleanback]

He could play half back, wing

Or half forward with a rotation onball

He fits into any side

Paying him a million bucks a year to sit and half back or half forward… yeh nah. He’s overrated af in my opinion. Would be just another player without the looks and the locks.

 

[ant555]

tsatas + perkins for bobby hill

 

[ant555]

He absolutely could, but think about this logically. Tsatas is made for that bench/half forward extra mid role, not utilised, likewise Hobbs, not utilised.

Why blow another first rounder on something we actually already know we can’t get the best out of, what’s the point?

If we let him go and it is if then it will be because they have got to the point where they can not fix his kicking and his defensive work is still average as well so the pick will be a bust anyway.

 

[jdstorm]

If we’re going to try and trade/overpay for someone (ideal trade target) surely it has to be Rowan Marshall

19

Rowan Marshall

Age

28

Ht

201cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

8.8

3star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

3.4

5star

HO

20.2

5star

D

12.9

3star

K

9.3

4star

HB

3.6

2star

CL

2.8

4star

HO

17.8

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.8

4star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

7.8

5star

.

Can play Ruck, Good forward and Good around the ground. Currently in his prime and fills a need while giving the team enough time to develop a young tall if they were to draft them this year.

Defense looks pretty set.
Mids with have an abundance of smalls. Could use another medium but that spot should be Tsatas next year with a VFL/AFL journeyman as depth be it setters or another similar player.

Wing is a strength.

Forward.
Cox caddy Langford Perkins Kako Gresham ADJr is a lot of investment in high picks and they seem to be progressing well.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

If we’re going to try and trade/overpay for someone (ideal trade target) surely it has to be Rowan Marshall.

Can play Ruck, Good forward and Good around the ground. Currently in his prime and fills a need while giving the team enough time to develop a young tall if they were to draft them this year.

Defense looks pretty set.
Mids with have an abundance of smalls. Could use another medium but that spot should be Tsatas next year with a VFL/AFL journeyman as depth be it setters or another similar player.

Wing is a strength.

Forward.
Cox caddy Langford Perkins Kako Gresham ADJr is a lot of investment in high picks and they seem to be progressing well.

For mine, it is not worth spending big currency on star rucks. They rarely win flags. Not that it wouldn't be good to have one, but system wise they are relatively unimportant. A ruck that can mark down the line is enough.

 

[Zach Package]

He absolutely could, but think about this logically. Tsatas is made for that bench/half forward extra mid role, not utilised, likewise Hobbs, not utilised.

Why blow another first rounder on something we actually already know we can’t get the best out of, what’s the point?

Point still stands. The role I would see Smith doing is probably similar to the one Caldwell excelled in at the start of the season as that 5th midfielder coming up from half forward and joining in.

Of late, that is not something we do by choice, so what’s the point and what kind of fit is he?

We like Duursma and a mobile big on a wing, so he wouldn’t play there, we already have more mids that Scott wants to utilise so again, not a lot of point there, I guess maybe you could make an argument for him as a defender that gets up high and gives us another rotation into the middle but there’s not really a fit.

I would love him if Scott was willing to change everything about himself and the way he sets the ground up.

 

[bombreys]

If we’re going to try and trade/overpay for someone (ideal trade target) surely it has to be Rowan Marshall.

Can play Ruck, Good forward and Good around the ground. Currently in his prime and fills a need while giving the team enough time to develop a young tall if they were to draft them this year.

Defense looks pretty set.
Mids with have an abundance of smalls. Could use another medium but that spot should be Tsatas next year with a VFL/AFL journeyman as depth be it setters or another similar player.

Wing is a strength.

Forward.
Cox caddy Langford Perkins Kako Gresham ADJr is a lot of investment in high picks and they seem to be progressing well.

No way - we need a 2nd KPD, a pocket and a flank.

 

[jdstorm]

For mine, it is not worth spending big currency on star rucks. They rarely win flags. Not that it wouldn't be good to have one, but system wise they are relatively unimportant. A ruck that can mark down the line is enough.

For sure.

I just think that it’s the most obvious upgrade. I like what’s developing at most other positions and don’t want to disrupt that.

Especially with Kako being added to the forward line.

Assuming Cox Caddy Langford Perkins Kako Gresham is our forward line next season. Maybe a Davey, Guelf or Stringer as F7 I’d like to see that develop.

Wings Martin, Jones Dursma

Def McKay Reid Ridley Redman McGrath

You have money to spend to get better but also don’t want to stunt growth. Upgrading Draper to Marshall seems to be the easiest way to do that.

The added bonus of Marshall is he’s also a really good key forward.

 

[ydc55]

Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

would be very handy.
A little buzz around about him coming back to Melbourne.

 

[nipst@r]

Wonder what we get for sheil and tsatas in trades and if we use these on drafting kids, kako bid or trade in a player.

I know tsatas can't kick but think we should give the kid a few proper games as mid and game time before discarding a top 5 pick for unders.

Tsatas - pick 15-25. 22 from tigers? Ideally earlier if they trade rioli or baker, I'd keep tsatas but seems this board and coaches dont rate him.

Shiel - 35 onwards but likely 3rd-4th round. 45 from saints.

Thoughts? As do we need points fir Kako. How does it work?

 

[Yoda_]

First rounder
Second rounder
Fifth rounder


Be nice to get a kid before Kako but the second is going to be eaten up substantially. Would we go into debt for 2025?

 

[faible]

Dan Houston would be very handy.
A little buzz around about him coming back to Melbourne.

Nice player but wrong cost + age demographic mix for us IMO. Would cost a bundle and is 28 early next year.

We still need to be adding high quality draftees I'd say.

 

[Vindicater]

Is Hobbs a chance of asking for a trade?

The other young players on the roster would see the path to making the team. Hayes-Laverde, Bryan-Goldy, Roberts-Kelly, etc.

Hobbs seems to be on the outer. Behind far too many players of similar age in the eyes of match committee.

 

[eth-dog]

Is Hobbs a chance of asking for a trade?

The other young players on the roster would see the path to making the team. Hayes-Laverde, Bryan-Goldy, Roberts-Kelly, etc.

Hobbs seems to be on the outer. Behind far too many players of similar age in the eyes of match committee.

I wouldn't be surprised and also wouldn't be too upset. He can play but I don't see where he fits for us.

 

[faible]

Is Hobbs a chance of asking for a trade?

The other young players on the roster would see the path to making the team. Hayes-Laverde, Bryan-Goldy, Roberts-Kelly, etc.

Hobbs seems to be on the outer. Behind far too many players of similar age in the eyes of match committee.

I'd say he's a chance, yes. Which would be unfortunate given I think the next year or two is when he'll start to be physically ready for an inside mid role.

For perspective; he's only 20 (turns 21 at the end of the season) and we're just seeing Caldwell and Durham stand up as midfielders at 23.

 

[TheGrizz]

Is Hobbs a chance of asking for a trade?

The other young players on the roster would see the path to making the team. Hayes-Laverde, Bryan-Goldy, Roberts-Kelly, etc.

Hobbs seems to be on the outer. Behind far too many players of similar age in the eyes of match committee.

Shiel is a good chance to leave and I am not convinced Setterfield is guaranteed to be around. There will be more opportunity next year than this.

He is on the edge of the 23 alot this year as an emergency. I think even if he asked we would want to keep him around for next year at least.

 

[MiguelM]

Is Hobbs a chance of asking for a trade?

The other young players on the roster would see the path to making the team. Hayes-Laverde, Bryan-Goldy, Roberts-Kelly, etc.

Hobbs seems to be on the outer. Behind far too many players of similar age in the eyes of match committee.

Not sure he is best 22 in many teams atm so might just be better to hang around.

Why do supporters think all players are eternally pissed off by doing time in the VFL?

He has had chances and hasn't set the world on fire IMO. Last time he played seniors he got continually caught. Needs to work on first option.

 

[The Dustbin]

We should be holding onto Hobbs and Elijah so we can package them up in exchange for Harley Reid and a few future fourth rounders (in October 2026).

 

[Vindicater]

Not sure he is best 22 in many teams atm so might just be better to hang around.

Why do supporters think all players are eternally pissed off by doing time in the VFL?

He has had chances and hasn't set the world on fire IMO. Last time he played seniors he got continually caught. Needs to work on first option.

I don't think all players are pissed at being in the VFL.

My argument comes from him not being able to see a path into the best 22.

 

[bombreys]

Not sure he is best 22 in many teams atm so might just be better to hang around.

Why do supporters think all players are eternally pissed off by doing time in the VFL?

He has had chances and hasn't set the world on fire IMO. Last time he played seniors he got continually caught. Needs to work on first option.

Got to remember this is his third season now. Guys in his draft class are all cementing themselves into their respective teams.

If he can’t get a game after being BOG in the twos, with Parish out and Perkins in career-worst form, it is pretty hard to see him getting a look in.