Already thinking about Super Coach 2010!

[swansfan51]

How much is Trent West going to cost? Had a 2009 average of 12, and should pick up a 40% discount for playing under 6 games. I see him priced around the $5 mark which should represent moderate value. Brad Ottens is made out of cardboard and powdered glass, and this should provide West with plenty of opportunity to revisit his stunning 2009 performances.

 

[Walesy]

He'll be "minimum" priced. $94k

 

[hendo8888]

Hmmmmm......The stock standard bigfooty team will be something like this IMO

Backs: Enright, Fisher, Hodge, Gilbee, 3 of Ladson, Kennelly, Hunt or Sheppard (Maguire, Davis)

Midfield Ablett, 3 of Gibbs, Vince, Pendlebury or Cooney, 2 of Palmer, Martin, Morabito (Banner, Bastanic)

Rucks: Will vary but Kreuzer will be in a lot of teams and Tippett if he is named as a ruck. Of course Hille, Sandilands and Big Cox will be here as well. (Lobbe, Currie)

Forwards: Goodes or Riewoldt, Deledio, Pavlich, Gray, Rioli, Dangerfield, Cunnington (Dennis-Lane, Tapscott)

So many thousands of teams similar to this will be entered IMO.

My backline is similar to that.
But every other position is a fair bit different.

 

[swansfan51]

Just checked my final 2009 team for the first time, I didn't look at it for the last couple of rounds after we dropped out of contention for the win. I was stunned at how good the team actually is on paper - which shows how much it suffered from a number of underperforming players:

Backs
Hodge, Gilbee, Fisher, Lake, Gilbert, Birchall, Grimes (Houlihan)

Centres
Ablett, Dal Santo, Goodes, Pendlebury, Black, Cornes

Rucks
Jolly, McIntosh

Forwards
Riewoldt, Chapman, Davis, O'Keefe, Deledio, Franklin, Higgins

The 3 lowest averages in that team are Franklin, Gilbee and Birchall, the last 2 of which were in my team from round 1. If you told me at the start of the year that Lindsay Gilbee would be my 2nd worst player, I would have immediately made plans for the $50,000.

The moral of the story is you can say whatever you want about players in your team now, but you can bet that not everything will go to plan. If I was planning my season 2009 again, I would still pick almost every single one of those players. The only way to consistently achieve results at the top end is to stay calm and trade bloody intelligently, because everyone else is going to have things go wrong with their team too.

 

[ShouldBeCoaching]

be interested to hear some thoughts on the lower scale forward line players

brett burton despite having major durability problems could be alright at 300k

andrew walker is in the doghouse at carlton but is another one who should be due to tap into his potential. assuming he's in the forward line

this position is giving me the most grief. i don't like what i see

 

[Judd_Magic]

Yeah the trick is to have 2-3 of those $200,000 forwards that were so good for us last year like Higgins, Krakeour, Skipworth and Hentschel (Last one was a joke although I picked him!) LOL!

 

[ShouldBeCoaching]

Yeah the trick is to have 2-3 of those $200,000 forwards that were so good for us last year like Higgins, Krakeour, Skipworth and Hentschel (Last one was a joke although I picked him!) LOL!

krakeour and higgins were gold last year but i don't see anyone in that price range that can emulate what they did early 09

 

[Markiie Boii]

be interested to hear some thoughts on the lower scale forward line players

brett burton despite having major durability problems could be alright at 300k

andrew walker is in the doghouse at carlton but is another one who should be due to tap into his potential. assuming he's in the forward line

this position is giving me the most grief. i don't like what i see

Patrick Veszpremi from Sydney could be a good pickup considering Sydney have no forward line.

Mark Williams, Lachie Henderson and Andrew Walker should also be considered.

I have Ziebell and Dangerfield in my team ATM. They should be around 300k. And both should improve.

 

[swansfan51]

Patrick Veszpremi from Sydney could be a good pickup considering Sydney have no forward line.

Veszpremi is definitely not a guarantee for a regular spot in our forward line. Jack is moving into the half-forward line, and Dennis-Lane has been recruited to play up front. Goodes is also going to be a permanent forward, and McGlynn is a good chance to move into the other HFF position. Vesz will play games this year, but he's in a queue.

 

[favourites]

I heard Ves is being primed for a back pocket position.

 

[swansfan51]

I heard Ves is being primed for a back pocket position.

He is, but the return of Kennelly makes that quite difficult as well. The kid has talent, but he's going to have to work hard for a spot. I would be staying well clear at that price. He will score very well if he gets a HBF position, but he won't be there for enough of the 22 rounds to justify the price in my opinion.

 

[Big Fozza]

hey when does the SC 2010 open up? anyone know? i need my SC fix!

 

[stkildathunda]

hey when does the SC 2010 open up? anyone know? i need my SC fix!

Normally around 50 days before the start of the season. So probably around start of Feb before the NAB Cup kicks off

 

[ShouldBeCoaching]

Patrick Veszpremi from Sydney could be a good pickup considering Sydney have no forward line.

Mark Williams, Lachie Henderson and Andrew Walker should also be considered.

I have Ziebell and Dangerfield in my team ATM. They should be around 300k. And both should improve.

with malceski apparently flying in pre-season and kennelly back in the mix along with mattner and shaw i can't see ves tearing up the backline.

mark williams doesn't get enough of the ball and is seriously inconsistent henderson and walker are big if's and i stear clear of all second year players as they are normally up and down like a honeymoon couple.

loving dangerfield but there's a serious lack of value talent.

frustrating

 

[The Exiles]

I get the feeling that he's going to be a very popular target to trade into come round 4.

But really, unless you're trading out a LTI, you're doing it wrong!

Y do u think that do u believe that he is a one hit wonder (just one good year in he)
or is your thinking that it would be a wast of a trade come round 4

 

[Hondo]

Y do u think that do u believe that he is a one hit wonder (just one good year in he)
or is your thinking that it would be a wast of a trade come round 4

I think he means that your cash cows would have hardly moved in price by then so it's an early sideways trade. So early that arguably you'd be better just to get him from the start and save the trade.

Well, that's my opinion on a round 4 Buddy trade in anyway.

 

[JCore]

Sam Butler has shown a lot. He was a DreamTeam gun in his junior days, dominating games. There is ALOT of talk about him on the DreamTeam board ATM but he's probably has more potential in SuperCoach. Drafted in 2003 with the 20th pick he played 12 games in his debut season showing a lot of good signs. The next season he again showed a lot but suffered a bit from the second year blues and was in and out of the side for the majority of the year. He still played 14 games including a Grand Final.

2006 was his breakout year. He struggled with an injury early in the year but made a recovery to break into the side at round 13 to play 14 games for the year with a superb finals series including games against the Bulldogs (30 disposals) and Adelaide (22 disposals and a goal). He played great football averaging 90 SuperCoach points per game.

However he broke down with a groin ailment in the pre-season for the 2007 season and couldn't break back into the team. 2008 was a new start for him and he was put on a modified preogram to treat the groin ailment which worked a treat. He played some early games in the WAFL and then finished the season with 5 strong games. Last season he broke back into the side to play 16 games in a struggling West Coast outfit. In fact in the last 6 games of the year when he was getting back to AFL football and feeling comfortable he averaged roughly 80 SC points per game.

Now with the Eagles expected to improve this season he is flying through the pre-season and the inside word is at the club that he will be able to get back to the level that he played with during the early days of his career. With him being quite cheap he is a far better option than many second year players. Really surprised that I haven't seen him mentioned here but I thought you guys should no about him. You would be an idiot not to consider him.

 

[jimbob7085]

what do you guys think of my first draft at my 2010 supercoach team?

BACK
Gilbee Drummond Hodge Embley Kennelly Hunt Ladson (Sheppard Maguire)

MIDS
Gablett Vince Cooney Ball Palmer Morabito/Scully/Martin (Shuey Blease)

RUCK
Sandilands Hille (Warnock Skipper)

FWD
Deledio Buddy Higgins Harvey Pavlich Walker Trengove (Bastinac Dennis Lane)

90k to spare.

My backlines pretty risky but i covered with Sheppard & Maguire, pretty sure theyll play majority of matches and will be good cover if needed.

I reckon Ball will become the pies number 1 extractor of the pill and with Swan/Pendles/Didak arounf him surely shouldnt be tagged.

Warnock and Skipper could play alot of games considering Skipper could slot into the Hawks team straight away, Warnock maybe a bit later.

I think ive spent a bit too much on the forwards but it would be pretty much set for the rest of the season.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

what do you guys think of my first draft at my 2010 supercoach team?

BACK
Gilbee Drummond Hodge Embley Kennelly Hunt Ladson (Sheppard Maguire)

MIDS
Gablett Vince Cooney Ball Palmer Morabito/Scully/Martin (Shuey Blease)

RUCK
Sandilands Hille (Warnock Skipper)

FWD
Deledio Buddy Higgins Harvey Pavlich Walker Trengove (Bastinac Dennis Lane)

90k to spare.

My backlines pretty risky but i covered with Sheppard & Maguire, pretty sure theyll play majority of matches and will be good cover if needed.

I reckon Ball will become the pies number 1 extractor of the pill and with Swan/Pendles/Didak arounf him surely shouldnt be tagged.

Warnock and Skipper could play alot of games considering Skipper could slot into the Hawks team straight away, Warnock maybe a bit later.

I think ive spent a bit too much on the forwards but it would be pretty much set for the rest of the season.

Thoughts would be appreciated.

My understanding is that Hille is unlikely to play in the first few rounds. He is then likely to take a few weeks to get back to somewhere near his best afterwards. Are you confident that your reserves are going to be able to adequately cover him in the meantime?

I would agree the backline is pretty risky. There are a number of injury prone players in that team however they are the logical value picks. The big question in my mind at the moment is whether I am willing to take the risk with them and if so, how many?

Drummond, Ladson, McGuire, Higgins and Walker have all suffered from recurring injuries whilst Palmer, Hunt, Warnock and Hille are returning from what can be a recurring injury or at least a difficult injury to return to your best from.

 

[jimbob7085]

My understanding is that Hille is unlikely to play in the first few rounds. He is then likely to take a few weeks to get back to somewhere near his best afterwards. Are you confident that your reserves are going to be able to adequately cover him in the meantime?

I would agree the backline is pretty risky. There are a number of injury prone players in that team however they are the logical value picks. The big question in my mind at the moment is whether I am willing to take the risk with them and if so, how many?

Drummond, Ladson, McGuire, Higgins and Walker have all suffered from recurring injuries whilst Palmer, Hunt, Warnock and Hille are returning from what can be a recurring injury or at least a difficult injury to return to your best from.

I didn't know about Hille not playing the first few rounds, thanks for the heads up

Drummond made it through 19(?) games last year so I'm hoping he can play the whole season, missing 1-2 games wouldnt phase me. Higgins could potentially become one of the better premium forwards around so im willing to take the risk. Ladson, Walker and hunt could average 80 or more, for their price this is great value. Palmer should be able to get over his injuries, if he doesnt I can downgrade a rookie, upgrade him to a premium if he gets injured again. I will be dropping Hille but Warnock would surely have a better chance than any rookie of playing (in rucks). I'm just gunna wait on Goose, Brissy didnt pick him up to be playing in the reserves.

 

[Ollies]

Sam Butler has shown a lot. He was a DreamTeam gun in his junior days, dominating games. There is ALOT of talk about him on the DreamTeam board ATM but he's probably has more potential in SuperCoach. Drafted in 2003 with the 20th pick he played 12 games in his debut season showing a lot of good signs. The next season he again showed a lot but suffered a bit from the second year blues and was in and out of the side for the majority of the year. He still played 14 games including a Grand Final.

2006 was his breakout year. He struggled with an injury early in the year but made a recovery to break into the side at round 13 to play 14 games for the year with a superb finals series including games against the Bulldogs (30 disposals) and Adelaide (22 disposals and a goal). He played great football averaging 90 SuperCoach points per game.

However he broke down with a groin ailment in the pre-season for the 2007 season and couldn't break back into the team. 2008 was a new start for him and he was put on a modified preogram to treat the groin ailment which worked a treat. He played some early games in the WAFL and then finished the season with 5 strong games. Last season he broke back into the side to play 16 games in a struggling West Coast outfit. In fact in the last 6 games of the year when he was getting back to AFL football and feeling comfortable he averaged roughly 80 SC points per game.

Now with the Eagles expected to improve this season he is flying through the pre-season and the inside word is at the club that he will be able to get back to the level that he played with during the early days of his career. With him being quite cheap he is a far better option than many second year players. Really surprised that I haven't seen him mentioned here but I thought you guys should no about him. You would be an idiot not to consider him.

There is---- but 75% of it is yours. Quite a few others over theere are quite sceptical so I guess you'll either be a fool or a genius.

 

[borrat]

is it bad that i dont have any carlton,collingwood or essendon players?

in my opinion i cant find any reason why to put any of there players in my team at the moment

and im extremely happy with my team already

i currently have 15 potential keepers 12 definetes 3 potential

and 99,200 left over

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

is it bad that i dont have any carlton,collingwood or essendon players?

in my opinion i cant find any reason why to put any of there players in my team at the moment

and im extremely happy with my team already

i currently have 15 potential keepers 12 definetes 3 potential

and 99,200 left over

Not really. But Gumby, Walker and Yarran are all worth watching in the preseason given they will play if right, and are very cheap considering. Think I only have Gumby as a bench player currently..not the others so i'm not overly talking them up. There are lots of fair value players in these teams but nothing wrong with you omitting them, e.g. Gibbs, Pendlebury, Jobe (now 100% focused as captain etc etc...lots of fair value to be honest).

I'm personally loading up on the Doggies and Hawkers where I just seem to rate their team/players higher at this point in time from a number of perspectives. Pendlebury may be the exception - he can always find space and can always hit a target.

 

[AssassinAndy]

is it bad that i dont have any carlton,collingwood or essendon players?

If your happy with your starting team then I don't see a problem with having no players from those teams to begin with. You have 20 trades during the season and quite a few upgrade targets can be found in those teams with Judd, Gibbs, Murphy, Pendles, Swan etc. So no doubt a few of them will end up in your side at some point to even things out a bit.

 

[borrat]

i thought it was quite weird not having at least 1 player from each club thats all

of course i will have a few collingwood and carlton players in my final squad like swan and judd and the likes

and i agree blue gibbs i currently have 4 geelong,hawthorn and melbourne players but only the one bulldogs player lol