Amazing coincidences in football

[TheRealComptroller]

Geelong 1994/95 and Sydney 2022 & 2024.

Cats lost their two GFs by 80 and 61. Sydney by 81 and 60; same 141 point combined deficits.

Lost the second GF to the other most recent GF loser.

Lost by exactly 58 more points than in their previous encounter at the winning team’s venue - Cats lost to Blues by 3 points at Princes Park in R12 and then lost the GF by 61. Swans lost to Lions at the Gabba by 2 in R20 before losing the GF by 60.

2024 was the fourth straight GF loss for Sydney.

1995 was the fourth straight 14+ team “modern era” Cat GF loss.

First loss for both in the sequence was to Hawthorn - 1989 and 2014.

Hawks were also the last team these clubs won the flag against (2012 and 1963) before going on their four* GF losing streaks.




*Cats also lost the 1967 GF to Richmond but this is not relevant to the 1989-95 era GFs when you consider the four players who participated in all of these losses were at most five years old (Gary Snr.) and one of them was still over a year away from birth (G. Hocking) when this game occurred.

 

[Cuzz09]

Every 17 years in the AFL era, Hawthorn has won the GF

1991 - Hawthorn win AFL Grand Final
2008 - Hawthorn win AFL Grand Final
2025 - Hawthorn to win AFL Grand Final?

if we get their F1 then you can lock it in lol

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[Borussia Teeth]

Every 17 years in the AFL era, Hawthorn has won the GF

1991 - Hawthorn win AFL Grand Final
2008 - Hawthorn win AFL Grand Final
2025 - Hawthorn to win AFL Grand Final?

No, you dickhead.

 

[BigVic]

2007/08 Border-Gavaskar Trophy: Australia wins series, Hawthorn win premiership over Geelong, first in 17 years
2014/15 Border-Gavskar Trophy: Australia win series, Hawthorn win premiership over West Coast, 3-peat
2024/25 Border-Gavaskar Trophy: Australia win?, Hawthorn win premiership?

2018/19 and 2020/21 Australia lost those series.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

2007/08 Border-Gavaskar Trophy: Australia wins series, Hawthorn win premiership over Geelong, first in 17 years
2014/15 Border-Gavskar Trophy: Australia win series, Hawthorn win premiership over West Coast, 3-peat
2024/25 Border-Gavaskar Trophy: Australia win?, Hawthorn win premiership?

2018/19 and 2020/21 Australia lost those series.

Shut the **** up with this crap.

 

[ioppolo]

You know he's going to do it. You see the notification that he's posted in here. Why bother reading it or replying? It won't change a thing mate.

 

[TheRealComptroller]

Tom Hawkins

26

Tom Hawkins

Age

36

Ht

197cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.9

4star

G

2.1

5star

D

12.7

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.1

3star

G

1.6

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.0

3star

G

2.2

5star

.

In his first and last game he played against Carlton at night whilst being guarded by a player whose surname starts with a W and I & T are the third and fourth letters: Lance Whitnall and Jacob Weitering

23

Jacob Weitering

Age

27

Ht

195cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.7

3star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

189.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.8

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

6.0

5star

T

0.8

3star

MG

263.4

4star

.

PS I think we pronounce Weitering incorrectly when said as wheat-a-ring. Surely it should be pronounced with an initial V sound (see Riewoldt) followed by a Y sound, as “ei” is in Heidelberg and Heisenberg? Vyt-a-ring?

 

[TheRealComptroller]

Geelong’s last premiership in the 12 team competition, in 1963, was against the Hawks with a coach, Bob Davis, who grew up a Swans fan (also the captain Fred Wooller was a South Melbourne supporter as a kid).

Then the inverse happened with Geelong’s last/only premiership in the 18 team competition, in 2022, being against the Swans with a coach, Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

, who grew up a Hawks fan.

Both coaches had also won back-to-back premierships as players in the second and third years of a decade: Davis in 1951/52 and Scott in 2001/02. The victories were also against the same teams in the same order: Essendon then Collingwood.

 

[TheRealComptroller]

Doug Wade.

As a Cat played in two GFs: a win against Hawthorn in 1963 and a loss against Richmond in 67.

As a Roo he has the same experience against the same teams: a win against the Hawks in 75 and a loss against the Tigers in 74.

Has another player beaten the same team in a GF while playing on different teams?

Has another player lost a GF to the same club on different teams?

Doug Wade doing both seems pretty freaky IMO.

Then 50 years after losing his second GF to the Tigers his grandson Luke Trainor would become a Richmond player.

 

[emuboy]

The 1981 VFL finals series was effectively a replay of the 1979 finals series if Geelong is substituted for North Melbourne as follows:

1979
QF: North Melbourne d. Collingwood
EF: Fitzroy d. Essendon
1SF: Collingwood d. Fitzroy
2SF: Carlton d. North Melbourne
PF: Collingwood d. North Melbourne
GF: Carlton d. Collingwood

1981
QF: Geelong d. Collingwood
EF: Fitzroy d. Essendon
1SF: Collingwood d, Fitzroy
2SF: Carlton d. Geelong
PF: Collingwood d. Geelong
GF: Carlton d. Collingwood

 

[BigVic]

1999 Collingwood finished last in the AFL H&A season, gets pick #1
2024 Collingwood finished last in the AFLW H&A season, gets pick #1

North Melbourne won that year's AFL and AFLW Premierships

 

[emuboy]

Mick Malthouse in his long career as a player for St Kilda and Richmond, and as a coach for the Bulldogs, West Coast Eagles, Collingwood and Carlton had numerous strange coincidences that came up time and time again as follows:

• Mick Malthouse made his debut with St Kilda in 1972. His debut was against the Bulldogs, and his second game against Richmond. Malthouse would go on to coach the Bulldogs and play for the Tigers.
• Also in his debut year for the Saints, Malthouse would play finals against Collingwood for a win and a loss to Carlton, both clubs Malthouse would later coach.
• In 1976, Malthouse left St Kilda for Richmond mid-season. His last ever game for the Saints would be against Hawthorn, the club Malthouse would meet in his finals debut as Bulldogs coach in 1985 and in his first Grand Final as a coach with the West Coast Eagles in 1991 (the Hawks winning both of these games) and Malthouse's first game as Collingwood coach in Round 1 2000 would also be against Hawthorn (this time the Magpies won). Malthouse's debut as a Richmond player in 1976 would also be against future team Collingwood.
• Malthouse played in and won one Grand Final as a player, this in 1980 when Richmond crushed Collingwood. Thirty years later, Malthouse would coach Collingwood to a crushing win over his original team St Kilda in the 2010 Grand Final.
• In 1982, Mick Malthouse would play in his last ever finals match, Richmond's win over Carlton in the 2SF (he missed the GF through injury). As coach, Malthouse would experience his last finals win for Carlton in 2013, the Blues beating Richmond in an Elimination Final.
• In his last year as a player in 1983 Malthouse played just two senior games - a loss to former team St Kilda and a win over the Sydney Swans. As his coaching career came to an end at Carlton 30 years later, his last ever win as a coach came early in a disastrous 2015 season over St Kilda, while his last ever finals match was against the Sydney Swans in 2013.
• Malthouse commenced his coaching career in Round 1 1984 in a comfortable win for the Bulldogs over his second team Richmond.
• In Round 20 1989 Malthouse won his last game as Bulldogs coach, a 78-point thrashing of Richmond.
• Malthouse's last ever game as Bulldogs coach was in the final round of 1989 against the Fitzroy Lions (touted as a merger partner of Footscray) and resulted in a loss. As coach of Collingwood in 2002 and 2003, Malthouse's team would be beaten both times in the Grand Final by the Brisbane Lions.
• In his first game as West Coast Eagles coach in Round 1 1990 Mich Malthouse would mastermind the Eagles to a 46-point demolition of his next coaching assignment Collingwood, but this would be tempered the next week by a hiding from St Kilda at Moorabbin. However the Eagles would rebound with four big wins in succession, three of these against the Bulldogs, Carlton and Richmond.
• Malthouse would coach the West Coast Eagles to two premierships in 1992 and 1994, both over Geelong. However the Cats would finish Malthouse's tenures at Collingwood (GF 1989) and Carlton (2015) with big wins over the Magpies and Blues.
• Only once in Malthouse's decade-long tenure at West Coast were the Eagles eliminated in the first week of the finals, and this was in 1998, a hiding at the hands of Malthouse's former team the Bulldogs.
• Mick Malthouse finished up at West Coast in 1999. Things were going well until Round 15, when inconsistent Richmond upset the Eagles and set off 7 losses in the last 8 games for the Eagles. Malthouse enjoyed his last ever H & A win in charge of the Eagles over Collingwood, and his last H & A match was a loss to St Kilda. In the finals, the Eagles managed to upset the Bulldogs but were no match for Carlton the following week.
• In Round 24 1991 Malthouse's Eagles suffered the ignominy of a bottom team beats top team loss against Fitzroy. However in Round 9 2005, Malthouse would coach the bottom-placed Magpies to a win over the ladder leading West Coast Eagles.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

Mick Malthouse in his long career as a player for St Kilda and Richmond, and as a coach for the Bulldogs, West Coast Eagles, Collingwood and Carlton had numerous strange coincidences that came up time and time again as follows:

• Mick Malthouse made his debut with St Kilda in 1972. His debut was against the Bulldogs, and his second game against Richmond. Malthouse would go on to coach the Bulldogs and play for the Tigers.
• Also in his debut year for the Saints, Malthouse would play finals against Collingwood for a win and a loss to Carlton, both clubs Malthouse would later coach.
• In 1976, Malthouse left St Kilda for Richmond mid-season. His last ever game for the Saints would be against Hawthorn, the club Malthouse would meet in his finals debut as Bulldogs coach in 1985 and in his first Grand Final as a coach with the West Coast Eagles in 1991 (the Hawks winning both of these games) and Malthouse's first game as Collingwood coach in Round 1 2000 would also be against Hawthorn (this time the Magpies won). Malthouse's debut as a Richmond player in 1976 would also be against future team Collingwood.
• Malthouse played in and won one Grand Final as a player, this in 1980 when Richmond crushed Collingwood. Thirty years later, Malthouse would coach Collingwood to a crushing win over his original team St Kilda in the 2010 Grand Final.
• In 1982, Mick Malthouse would play in his last ever finals match, Richmond's win over Carlton in the 2SF (he missed the GF through injury). As coach, Malthouse would experience his last finals win for Carlton in 2013, the Blues beating Richmond in an Elimination Final.
• In his last year as a player in 1983 Malthouse played just two senior games - a loss to former team St Kilda and a win over the Sydney Swans. As his coaching career came to an end at Carlton 30 years later, his last ever win as a coach came early in a disastrous 2015 season over St Kilda, while his last ever finals match was against the Sydney Swans in 2013.
• Malthouse commenced his coaching career in Round 1 1984 in a comfortable win for the Bulldogs over his second team Richmond.
• In Round 20 1989 Malthouse won his last game as Bulldogs coach, a 78-point thrashing of Richmond.
• Malthouse's last ever game as Bulldogs coach was in the final round of 1989 against the Fitzroy Lions (touted as a merger partner of Footscray) and resulted in a loss. As coach of Collingwood in 2002 and 2003, Malthouse's team would be beaten both times in the Grand Final by the Brisbane Lions.
• In his first game as West Coast Eagles coach in Round 1 1990 Mich Malthouse would mastermind the Eagles to a 46-point demolition of his next coaching assignment Collingwood, but this would be tempered the next week by a hiding from St Kilda at Moorabbin. However the Eagles would rebound with four big wins in succession, three of these against the Bulldogs, Carlton and Richmond.
• Malthouse would coach the West Coast Eagles to two premierships in 1992 and 1994, both over Geelong. However the Cats would finish Malthouse's tenures at Collingwood (GF 1989) and Carlton (2015) with big wins over the Magpies and Blues.
• Only once in Malthouse's decade-long tenure at West Coast were the Eagles eliminated in the first week of the finals, and this was in 1998, a hiding at the hands of Malthouse's former team the Bulldogs.
• Mick Malthouse finished up at West Coast in 1999. Things were going well until Round 15, when inconsistent Richmond upset the Eagles and set off 7 losses in the last 8 games for the Eagles. Malthouse enjoyed his last ever H & A win in charge of the Eagles over Collingwood, and his last H & A match was a loss to St Kilda. In the finals, the Eagles managed to upset the Bulldogs but were no match for Carlton the following week.
• In Round 24 1991 Malthouse's Eagles suffered the ignominy of a bottom team beats top team loss against Fitzroy. However in Round 9 2005, Malthouse would coach the bottom-placed Magpies to a win over the ladder leading West Coast Eagles.

You’re usually alright, but trying a bit too hard here.