What the heck? Andrew Bassatt's Weird Speech

[PandaG]

He is both right and wrong at the same time.

Right that there are too many clubs in Melbourne so the smaller VFL clubs are always going to have to make up the numbers in a sense. And there is no commercial incentive to have all of these clubs up at the same time or for long periods.

Wrong from the perspective that the Saints have had the worst drafting of any club in recent memory (which is why their list profile is god awful), have hired a coach who plays a brand of footy which isn't commercially attractive to the networks and are a club that gets significant financial contributions on par with the northern clubs to stay financially competitive.

You don’t really know the saints list of this is your opinion. His point has nothing to do with drafting and everything to do with the garbage system that allows teams to double dip on elite talent

 

[PandaG]

I am happy that finally the father/son picks are getting some attention - it’s hilarious that Vic clubs whinge so hard about the academy picks while quietly stuffing away decades of former players sons, that GC/GWS in particular don’t have access too. Collingwood win a flag with 3 father-son stars, but how dare the Suns get Jed Walter & co?

For me, if you take away the academy selections, take away ALL the draft changes. No more priority picks, ever. No more father-sons. Ever.

Funnily enough it’ll be Brisbane winning a flag & getting Levi Ashcroft that will likely lead to a restriction on F/S bids.

Anyway, St Kilda didn’t complain when they got Riewoldt & Ball. And it’s no one’s fault they haven’t hadAblett Daicos Darcy type luck with F/S picks. And they haven’t complained publicly until the NoRthErN cLubS benefitte

Nothing wrong with father son but how can teams not have to use their first rnd pick to get a top 10 talent..? Means teams are getting 2 top ten elite players in their system while others are getting 1 if they are lucky..? Makes no sense that teams should not have to pay a higher price for elite players that come into the club as father sons.
The afl is changing this rule next year, lions nearly shit themselves this year when they thought the new rule was coming in so if the rules are changing there must be a problem..?? The lions should have to use their 2024 first rnd and future first to pay for Ashcroft this year, or trade with an another team to get a pick high enough to pay for him. It is an obvious equity fix. I can’t see any argument against it

 

[PandaG]

The worst part about it, and why Bassat’s rant is even funnier, is that they got Lyon back thinking that he could get that list into the top 4.

I spoke directly to the son of a former Saints board member at the time who was adamant that getting Ross back meant “Ross can take this list to the GF next year”.

12 months later Ross is telling them that they need to rebuild and they don’t have enough talent.

Now they’re angry Battle is leaving after not paying him enough to make him a restricted free agent, but also tapping multiple contracted players at other clubs, declaring that they’ll be aggressive.

What an organisation.

What an absolute load of garbage this post is

 

[StCicatriz]

The worst part about it, and why Bassat’s rant is even funnier, is that they got Lyon back thinking that he could get that list into the top 4.

I spoke directly to the son of a former Saints board member at the time who was adamant that getting Ross back meant “Ross can take this list to the GF next year”.

12 months later Ross is telling them that they need to rebuild and they don’t have enough talent.

Now they’re angry Battle is leaving after not paying him enough to make him a restricted free agent, but also tapping multiple contracted players at other clubs, declaring that they’ll be aggressive.

What an organisation.

Is this "son" in the room with us now?

 

[McIvor]

Good to see a Saints legend having such confidence in his club

 

[gambinotosserflog]

Nothing wrong with father son but how can teams not have to use their first rnd pick to get a top 10 talent..? Means teams are getting 2 top ten elite players in their system while others are getting 1 if they are lucky..? Makes no sense that teams should not have to pay a higher price for elite players that come into the club as father sons.
The afl is changing this rule next year, lions nearly shit themselves this year when they thought the new rule was coming in so if the rules are changing there must be a problem..?? The lions should have to use their 2024 first rnd and future first to pay for Ashcroft this year, or trade with an another team to get a pick high enough to pay for him. It is an obvious equity fix. I can’t see any argument against it

you do realise father son is a fluke of genetics? and more so where the team actually finishes when the kid comes of draftable age?

 

[McIvor]

you do realise father son is a fluke of genetics? and more so where the team actually finishes when the kid comes of draftable age?

What’s more offensive is the AFL gifting clubs with compensation picks within the first two rounds for players that would barely be worth a mid second rounder and yet people are outraged over instances of clubs getting very lucky with father sons for the exact reasons you’ve identified.

 

[gambinotosserflog]

What’s more offensive is the AFL gifting clubs with compensation picks within the first two rounds for players that would barely be worth a mid second rounder and yet people are outraged over instances of clubs getting very lucky with father sons for the exact reasons you’ve identified.

People forget that for every Will Ashcroft or Josh and Nick Daicos, there's a Devlin Brereton.

 

[McIvor]

People forget that for every Will Ashcroft or Josh and Nick Daicos, there's a Devlin Brereton.

Or Casey Voss or Bradshaw’s son (both highly rated juniors who couldn’t even get on an list) or other Lions father/sons no one has heard of such as Shane Morrison (5 games) Josh Clayton (2 games) or Darryl White Jnr (rookied for a year and 0 games) or hell Chris Johnson’s son who Lions wanted to take as a Father Son but he declined to join Essendon as an NGA and was delisted after a year or so.

If we’re talking percentages, getting the likes of brothers such as Ablett’s, Daicos’ or Ashcrofts is flukey and sure we’re beneficiary’s, there is still just as many busts too.