Andrew Johns - Caught with Ecstasy Tablet /Admits to using Drugs thoughout Career

[Ricardo]

I definitely have more respect for Johns then Cousins when i look at the way both have handled their own drug situations.

This does tarnish his career, but the way it was put across was possibly the best way he could have handled it.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Anybody who didn't think drugs are a problem in pro sports was naive as hell and the manner in which Cousins and Johns handled it were very different but also very different situations.
Lets also not forget that Joey also denied it was his.

 

[Gecko]

So Johns first denied everything.

And then admitted he lied and had taken drugs his whole career. After he retired so he doesn't get any penalty. Sounds like a great guy.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that he admitted it, but it's a lot easier to do after you have retired. He wouldn't have said anything if he was caught while playing.

 

[Red_and_white]

Re: NRL Footy Show - Andrew Johns - Watch

What? wait until after your career finishes and a being caught with possesion to force your hand.

OooooKaaaay

Yes because obviously Andrew Johns dealt with his problem by intentionally being caught but making sure it was after his retirement.

What the hell are you talking about. The "sticky situation" is that he was caught and he dealt with it by admitting his problem on national television.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

LOL to all the guys saying Johns won't cop anything because he is retired.

If anything, it will be worse for him than cousins because cousins can say, I've done the crime and I've done the time(well he thinks he has )

Then there is Johns, has a career in TV if he wants that either on 9, Fox or any other TV station in Aus if he wanted, he is known outside of Australia, that's why companies like the BBC jump on it, they didn't with cousins because he's only really known in the Southern-western states of this country.

Do you think these places will want a druggo as the face of their screen?

Johns could've been in the running to coach a RL club, the Wallabies he was mentioned, there's SOO and the Kangaroos, there is also clubs in other countries he could've started at.

You think anyone will want to take a chance on a druggo running a club, state team or national team?

Being around young guys, do you think he would be trusted to keep them on the straight and narrow?

You guys think he's not going to lose anything because he's retired?

Take the AFL glasses off morons, he could lose everything, simply because he's too old to come back and play again, but the AFL guy Cousins is playing now isn't he.

Plus Johns said he hardly ever used these drugs during the season, it was mostly off season, some people need to clean their ears out and listen to what is being said, not jumping up n down like some giddy little school girl getting their knickers in a knot because one from the dark side has taken all the bad press away from the AFL for 48 hours, thus causing you you orgasm at this very thought.

 

[huntos]

LOL to all the guys saying Johns won't cop anything because he is retired.

If anything, it will be worse for him than cousins because cousins can say, I've done the crime and I've done the time(well he thinks he has )

Then there is Johns, has a career in TV if he wants that either on 9, Fox or any other TV station in Aus if he wanted, he is known outside of Australia, that's why companies like the BBC jump on it, they didn't with cousins because he's only really known in the Southern-western states of this country.

Do you think these places will want a druggo as the face of their screen?

Johns could've been in the running to coach a RL club, the Wallabies he was mentioned, there's SOO and the Kangaroos, there is also clubs in other countries he could've started at.

You think anyone will want to take a chance on a druggo running a club, state team or national team?

Being around young guys, do you think he would be trusted to keep them on the straight and narrow?

You guys think he's not going to lose anything because he's retired?

Take the AFL glasses off morons, he could lose everything, simply because he's too old to come back and play again, but the AFL guy Cousins is playing now isn't he.

Plus Johns said he hardly ever used these drugs during the season, it was mostly off season, some people need to clean their ears out and listen to what is being said, not jumping up n down like some giddy little school girl getting their knickers in a knot because one from the dark side has taken all the bad press away from the AFL for 48 hours, thus causing you you orgasm at this very thought.

Stop trying to defend Joey Johns character because it is all but shot down, he stood and watched as Cousins was slandered by the media (which he is a part of) and had no objection. Despite he facing the exact problem for twice as long.

Everyone in rugby league was criticizing Cousins and how the AFL produces drugos and now they are defending their greatest every players entire career, he was on drugs his entire career and still on them after it was finished. Worse than Ben Cousins! Just because he was taking reduced amounts during the season doesn't mean its any less of a problem, Johns was too gutless to admit he was taking drugs until he got caught. Now after been caught he spills his guts and everyone in the Sydney media is defending him, commending him for admitting a problem which the British police admitted for him.

Johns has less to loose now than he had in his playing career, he admits he was on drugs now when he can't be sanctioned by any sporting body, he can't loose the money he has already made. He has a book coming out, i wonder how much money that will make? Do you think that it will less now that he has admitted that he was on drugs? Johns can sit on his fortune that he has earned while taking drugs and wait 10 years until a team wants him to coach. Mathew Johns said so himself that he knew what his brother was doing, so obviously Newcastle people would of known just as much. Obviously if they didn't have a problem with him coaching a week ago, certainly they wont have a problem in 10 years.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

I don't see where I was defending him, I wasn't, he's an idiot.

You think he would've made more from Football than after?

Football if you are lucky enough, can last 14 years, coaching and being on TV can last until you die, anywhere from 20 to 50 years.

Just look at the cricket commentators we have, some haven't changed for 40 years.

I don't remember saying anything about cousins, if you can find a thread where I mentioned him, good luck.

And as I said before, you need to listen to what he said, not what you think he said because you don't like RL.

At no time was AJ addicted to drugs, you make it sound like he was popping them every week or every day, what he said was, I did take it a few times during the season, sometimes I went a couple of seasons without touching it, most of the time I done it, it was the off season.

And Johns has a hell of a lot to lose now, 1 being an immortal of the game, two, being a coach of a club side, three being a SOO coach, four being a coach of the national side, five, having nothing to do with the wallabies, six, he may never commentate, seven, all the sponsors he still has may leave, eight, has lost the respect of the whole RL world, not just in Newcastle and Australia, but everywhere, nine, having his family put through crap, ten, imagine being his 7 year old kid having to go to school every day to front up to all the other kids, let alone teachers who aren't perfect either.

I'd say he has lost out more for doing it now than he would've had he been playing still, if he was playing, he would have been warned, that's all, maybe he might have stopped after that, but 1 tab wouldn't lead to a suspension.

It's not like it was a performance enhancing drug, if he was caught with an Eccy, nothing would come of it, if it was Performance, well they would throw the book at him.

And don't come back and say I'm sticking up for him, I'm not, he made his bed, let him Lay in it.

You can say he would make more money playing, well how about getting 400,000-600,000 a year for 20 years just for coaching, how about on top of that a career on TV with even more money over that same amount of time?

Millions of dollars down the drain, but it's his fault, only thing I can say about him that I agree with is the way he went on TV and put his hand up, he has that over your boy cousins, and I see a hellava lot of AR supporters saying the same, actually, it's probably the majority of them.

 

[robbieando]

he stood and watched as Cousins was slandered by the media (which he is a part of) and had no objection.

He was STILL a player and NOT part of the media when Cousins entered rehab. So just what was he expected to say as a "player" at that time??? Your knowledge of the facts is quite loose to say the least.

Everyone in rugby league was criticizing Cousins and how the AFL produces drugos

Quite funny, I don't remember the NRL media or players doing that and if they did they would be forgetting their own backyard and the fact they have had a large amount of players test positive for drugs over the last decade. Again I think you have your Rose-coloured glasses on.

and now they are defending their greatest every players entire career

They can't dispute the fact his playing career was as good as it was, just like AFL people can't dispute the fact Ben Cousins playing career up to this point has been great as well.

Johns was too gutless to admit he was taking drugs until he got caught.

Same with Cousins, who refused to even admit his problem after the Eagles suspended him from the club and had to get his own FATHER to go public on the matter. I call that GUTLESS.

Now after been caught he spills his guts and everyone in the Sydney media is defending him, commending him for admitting a problem which the British police admitted for him.

Ben Cousins barely admins to the problem, reads a prepared statement and refuses to say anything else on the matter and the entire West Australian media and Eagles supporter base think he has reformed and his a hero to all. Why won't he tell his full story?? Is he waiting to sell it to the highest bidder??

Johns has less to loose now than he had in his playing career

Crap, he'll lose media work in Australia and in Britain. He'll lose the chance to coach RL clubs in Australia, England and France and he already has lost he role as kicking coach at the World Cup for the Wallabys. So to say he has less to lose than Cousins is a joke. We all know Cousins won't be a media commentator post his playing career, nor would he be a coach but Johns would have. Now Johns has ruined a great chance to have the pick of roles in the media and coaching he wanted. Opening up in this way has cost Johns.

Obviously if they didn't have a problem with him coaching a week ago, certainly they wont have a problem in 10 years.

The Wallabys made it quite clear that they don't want their players linked with a person like Johns and I think in 10 years with this now public knowledge clubs are less likely to give him access to their junior players.

 

[Dont be a lemon]

I wish these people (not necessary anyone on BigFooty) who are acting all "OMG WHAT A FALSE IDOL!@!@@!!@@!!@" would get a grip. He hasn't been killing people or anything...

Would people be reacting the same way if Johns had been cutting himself all this time? Both actions are only self harming after all...

I shouldn't be surprised though. Some people just seem to bounce of the handle if the words "illegal drugs" are ever uttered.

 

[chaddles]

Joey Johns was never on ICE or anything of the such!!! He mainly took eccies after games on a night out and maybe a bit of coke. The worst thing that could happen on an X is that you might get caught in public enjoying sh!t dance music and maybe chewing your tongue off!

He never had a problem with addiction that interferred significantly with his everyday lifestyle, or that of his family. These are drugs that you will see out and about in most places you go drinking with at night.

I admire him for just coming out in public like that after it all become too much for him. He is one of the most humble people you would ever meet, hates talking about himself and was never fully comfortable having to speak to the media.

One of the greatest players to ever play ANY sport and this in no way should reflect on his great achievements.

 

[dr nick]

He never had a problem with addiction that interferred significantly with his everyday lifestyle, or that of his family.

I take it you didn't even see the interview.

 

[dr nick]

So courageous of him to come out now when he could have kept quiet.

Will still go down as the greatest player ever in my book, but to think he put that title on the line to tell the truth.

Would you do it?

His half arsed Michelle Leslie excuse was an embarassment, he in a way was forced to clarify that obvious lie with a statement of some sort.

I was expecting the interview with Gus to be about - yeah I took the tablet off someone i didnt know, forgot about it and got caught. He even could have said he stupidly took a few eccies that day when he was smashed. All plausible. After all, he's retired and partying in London.

But he admitted to being an illicit drug user with a raging alcohol problem right through his playing career. He didn't have to do that - and he's brave for admitting he knew how to rort the NRL testing as well.

 

[incubi]

The Johns situation is worse than the Cousins situation, while cousins didnt say anything to the media, he went and had his problem fixed on his own accord.
Johns got caught, lied, realised no one believed his lie so came out and admitted it after havign done it for far longer than Cousins.

 

[Hicham]

while cousins didnt say anything to the media, he went and had his problem fixed on his own accord.

Is that you, Vlad??