Mega Thread Anti doping Tribunal Hearings - Verdict to be delivered March 31st, 2pm, Docklands. Closed hearing

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Tigerland said:
In other comedy news....

Paul Little at the EFC season launch has said that he wants Essendon to become the most respected sporting Club in the country. I kid you not:D
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Bit like Mark Neeld's infamous "Melbounre will be the most feared team to play against" - Wonder who gave him that line...
 

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bing181 said:
No-one. That's not what he said.
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So I was paraphrasing, what he actually said was, "I simply want to coach the team that is the hardest to play against in the AFL," he said. "That means all over the ground we're going to be the hardest to play against. A laughable fail comment much as I expect Little's will be.
 
Sir Hugh Percy said:
So I was paraphrasing, what he actually said was, "I simply want to coach the team that is the hardest to play against in the AFL," he said. "That means all over the ground we're going to be the hardest to play against. A laughable fail comment much as I expect Little's will be.
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To be fair, he could have meant "most confusing to play against". They confuse me. When Melbourne start passing the ball to invisible team members, I get seriously confused...
 
ScallyWag1 said:
A fact that wasn't lost on any Richmond supporters I can assure you.
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Depends if the players get off and Hird keeps his job. Then technically Dank would be able to be hired again and this shit storm will start again

Sorry miss read that, but still a situation that could happen
 
Proper Gander said:
To be fair, he could have meant "most confusing to play against". They confuse me. When Melbourne start passing the ball to invisible team members, I get seriously confused...
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They beginning of trying to make Essendon relevant again. Melbourne just doing what the AFL tell them
 
Lissy said:
They beginning of trying to make Essendon relevant again. Melbourne just doing what the AFL tell them
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That would be it. Viva la top ups!
 
Proper Gander said:
That would be it. Viva la top ups!
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You do realise Essendon are so bad even Melbourne trying lose nearly wasn't good enough. They had to kick the ball too them just so they didn't actually win. AFL need to do something magical to keep these players from suspension or too bad for their equalization plans.
 
Lissy said:
You do realise Essendon are so bad even Melbourne trying lose nearly wasn't good enough. They had to kick the ball too them just so they didn't actually win. AFL need to do something magical to keep these players from suspension or too bad for their equalization plans.
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Okay okay. You've had lots of fun. Since its NAB I keep just repeating practise match practise match practise match practise match.

If anything, the 30 minutes I saw of Melbourne v Freo in the first NAB challenge looked totally worse. It was an all in kick the ball randomly off the field fest. Freo put up an impressive fight to lose first, but they were no competition for the rehearsed lunacy they faced on a quality afternoon all round.
 
Proper Gander said:
Okay okay. You've had lots of fun. Since its NAB I keep just repeating practise match practise match practise match practise match.

If anything, the 30 minutes I saw of Melbourne v Freo in the first NAB challenge looked totally worse. It was an all in kick the ball randomly off the field fest. Freo put up an impressive fight to lose first, but they were no competition for the rehearsed lunacy they faced on a quality afternoon all round.
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doggies backed themselves yesterday
 

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So the verdict comes through on March 31. What happens then?

If its a 'not guilty' can WADA/ASADA come over the top?

If its 'guilty' can Essendon appeal? What then of the provisional suspensions?
 
Proper Gander said:
Okay okay. You've had lots of fun. Since its NAB I keep just repeating practise match practise match practise match practise match.

If anything, the 30 minutes I saw of Melbourne v Freo in the first NAB challenge looked totally worse. It was an all in kick the ball randomly off the field fest. Freo put up an impressive fight to lose first, but they were no competition for the rehearsed lunacy they faced on a quality afternoon all round.
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On the up side hawks won a flag after losing all nab games. Could be the Dees year
 
L_W_P said:
So the verdict comes through on March 31. What happens then?

If its a 'not guilty' can WADA/ASADA come over the top?

If its 'guilty' can Essendon appeal? What then of the provisional suspensions?
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Yes, No and No.

Yes, ASADA / WADA can appeal if they are unhappy with the decision or sanctions applied.

Yes, the players can appeal but Essendon cannot. This is because its the players vs ASADA. Technically, the club has no direct involvement. Yeah, yeah they are actually in it ip to their ears but only the players are on trial.

No, there won't be any more provisional suspensions. If sanctioned, the suspensions become definite suspensions and if cleared, there are no suspensions. This will not change during any appeals but may change as a result of any appeal.
 
Lion of Panjshir said:
2pm
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Says Mark Stevens. Theatrically tweets that's the time "the hammer comes down" - not sure if he means a gavel, or is presuming an outcome, or is just choosing his words poorly.
 
Hearts to hearts said:
Says Mark Stevens. Theatrically tweets that's the time "the hammer comes down" - not sure if he means a gavel, or is presuming an outcome, or is just choosing his words poorly.
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What the hell are we fighting for?
Just surrender and it won't hurt at all
You just got time to say your prayers
While you're waiting for the Hammer to Fall!!!!



A song so ghey, even blackcat blushed. :D
 
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Sir Hugh Percy said:
So I was paraphrasing, what he actually said was, "I simply want to coach the team that is the hardest to play against in the AFL," he said. "That means all over the ground we're going to be the hardest to play against. A laughable fail comment much as I expect Little's will be.
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Mark Neeld's first year 4 wins - 18 losses = Satan
Paul Roos' first year 4 wins - 18 losses = God
 
imperial_oz said:
No, there won't be any more provisional suspensions. If sanctioned, the suspensions become definite suspensions and if cleared, there are no suspensions. This will not change during any appeals but may change as a result of any appeal.
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Genuine question for the ASADA-code literate on here:
If players are found not guilty (or with very small penalty), and ASADA/WADA appeal, what happens to suspensions in case of a successful appeal?
Eg the players didn't participate in NAB cup because it would reset suspension period, is the same true in case of appeal? (so for example, if the CAS finds 2 years would be appropriate on appeal, do the 2 years then start from date of appeals verdict again?)
 
not_working said:
Genuine question for the ASADA-code literate on here:
If players are found not guilty (or with very small penalty), and ASADA/WADA appeal, what happens to suspensions in case of a successful appeal?
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The period of provisional suspension can be deducted from any penalty, no matter when it comes. If they start playing again, but there's a successful appeal, penalties would be minus the time they'd served under the provisional suspension.

The Contador case is a good precedent: provisionally suspended, cleared by the Spanish anti-doping agency, started racing again, CAS appeal was successful, penalty period was reduced by the 5+ months he was initially provisionally suspended.

The only grey area for me is that if there's a successful appeal to CAS, from what date would new penalties start. I can't see/find anything specific. For example, is it from when the appeal process starts, when the hearing starts, when the ruling is announced... not sure. Anyone?
 
not_working said:
Genuine question for the ASADA-code literate on here:
If players are found not guilty (or with very small penalty), and ASADA/WADA appeal, what happens to suspensions in case of a successful appeal?
Eg the players didn't participate in NAB cup because it would reset suspension period, is the same true in case of appeal? (so for example, if the CAS finds 2 years would be appropriate on appeal, do the 2 years then start from date of appeals verdict again?)
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That will depend on CAS if WADA appeal. The AFL appeals board would be too hard to pick considering their track record but as far as CAS is concerned, I think they would recognise time served if the players were later found guilty. ie They've done roughly 6 months from when the INs were issued, so if they were later found to have breached the code then they would get say 2 years less the 6 months served. The time may vary with any applied discounts but the situation would basically be the same.
 
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