APS team of the decade

[PMS24/7]

I do think you have gone off the track with APS footy, as an eleven year old, little johnny has bugger all say in the school he goes to, this is a parental choice, if parents can afford to send them to an APS school, they will and they can find one with all religions catered for.
A large number of parents give up a lot to have little johnny attend a private school, so when he is not one of the 70 or so out of the 20 million population that is picked each year he can actually get a job which he may enjoy doing as well as play football on the weekend for the enjoyment of the game.
So, when you all apply for jobs and some well mannered and presented little prick gets the job before you, ask yourself would you have liked your parents to make the sacrifice and have sent you to one. Not for one minute would I suggest that all private school kids are well mannered or presented or that non private school kids are any less mannered or presented but generally thats in part what parents pay $16K a year for.
The slagging that goes on in this thread tends to show how we as Australians still like to chop the tall poppy, as I have stated, you as a child have little or no say in your schooling and I will bet when you have your own little buggers, you will check out private schools for them when it comes to education.

 

[linger_isgod]

No, they don't have a choice in the majority of cases (barring scholarshipping [which, in fact, often suprises me that so many are keen to take the bait thrown at them. As opposed to cricket, where you find that the best near always knock back scholarships for the chance to play Premier Cricket week in week out).

But there seems to be far too much emphasis on how good the APS (and other similar school sports competitions) is for the development of footballers in this forum, and how they produce so many AFL players, etc. when in all honesty, it is these sort of school sport programs that hold back the elite youngsters, as opposed to promote them.

 

[linger_isgod]

Also, I went to a Private school myself, and I'd be looking forward to sending my child to a Private school if I'm lucky enough to have the finances to when I have a child (fingers crossed).

That doesn't mean that school football (on the Saturdays, overriding other competitions) is beneficial for a talented youngster, or indeed superior to other competitions that don't implement this, which is what I'm arguing about.

Especially when you consider that most of the targeting for TAC cup comes from the best of the junior football leagues, as opposed to school football.

 

[PMS24/7]

Also, I went to a Private school myself, and I'd be looking forward to sending my child to a Private school if I'm lucky enough to have the finances to when I have a child (fingers crossed).

That doesn't mean that school football (on the Saturdays, overriding other competitions) is beneficial for a talented youngster, or indeed superior to other competitions that don't implement this, which is what I'm arguing about.

Especially when you consider that most of the targeting for TAC cup comes from the best of the junior football leagues, as opposed to school football.

You are right in what you say, totally, and I agree with the Saturday Competition being a pain in the r's for talented kids who have no choice in playing for school, but again it comes down to a life choice by parents.
The APS competition is not the be all and end all and never will be but it does produce a few players that can take the next step to AFL, and if scouts and TAC staff are doing there job they will find them one way or another.
Obviously by your previous post you are a good cricketer, if so I would suggest you go to the cricket victoria web site and see how many kids have been in the Victorian Pathway Squads that originate from the private school system along with the debuts made in Premier Firsts over the last few years, it does tend to dispell you ascertion that they do not take up scholarships or come out of the private system.
Have a nice day, I do agree with a lot you say

 

[The Wizard]

Josh mahoney (SKC) would also have to be looked at, premiership player.

Chris & Brad Scott - multiple premiership winners. No APS school has produced as many premiership players than SKC in the last few years.

 

[meat cleaver]

Sensational post. Where are you on that one meat clever?

what are you talking about pepi. This thread was started under the guise of a discussion about who the the best APS players have been in the past decade. However as has become the case in so many school football threads jealous TAC cup middle-aged male fanatics who sadly look up to kids a thrid of their age hijack the thread trying to u-turn it into a discussion on how great the TAC cup is. This frustrating occurence has sadly become a daily ritual for those who do not understand that the sub-heading of 'school football' means just that - SCHOOL FOOTBALL and that threads of 'APS Team of the Decade' again involves discussion about the best players in the APS of the past decade, not the ACC, not the AGS and certainly not the TAC cup. For those of you that cannot understand this it proves that your education has most likely been spent playing table tennis during English class.

 

[Thursfield7]

Brett Deledio (caulfield)

did brett deledio even go to caufield

 

[linger_isgod]

did brett deledio even go to caufield

He's going there, doing Yr 12 over two years, since he's come down from Kyabram.

 

[Pepi]

look lets end the debate we are only embarrassing the boys of the ACC, and AGS. They claim they have more that have played AFL footy. for 1. the APS has by far had more as weve all seen from the above posts and 2. the boys that actually play AFL from the APS make an impact unseen before- i only point to Ball and Judd as evidence. The APS is the Premier League of schoolboy footy as far as all are concern. END OF STORY.

Does that post look familiar meat clever? It seems that you were the one who started the argument. No one had even mentioned the ACC until this post by you. As for all that crap you said about the TAC, I dont see where I have written anything about the TAC, so mate you are really struggling.

 

[Thursfield7]

He's going there, doing Yr 12 over two years, since he's come down from Kyabram.

didnt know that... shows how much i know

 

[meat cleaver]

AGS have crawford so they would top everyone

go hawks

The main point of my previous post was to outline the frustration of AGS and ACC talk becoming discussion in APS forums, whether the ACC had been mentioned at that point in the thread is neither here nor there. Had you checked on the first page of this thread you will see that your AGS friends have in fact started this debate as seen in Tombo's quote- please check the records before you begin to make any more ill-conceived comments. And if you had realised the point of my last post, it was to illustrate many peoples frustration at those who enter school football threads to merely talk up how great the TAC cup is and how unnecessary school boy football is- which you are obviously are a part of in your support of Linger_isgod's post. Please try to understand the basic point of the post before you lash out in future, that would be greatly appreciated.

 

[nicho_magic]

ferg watts hasnt played that well for adelaide i wouldnt had him into my team.​

i emphasise that this is an aps dream team not an AFL/APS dream team and hence, ferg would get in along with ries

 

[jimmy12]

F.Watts is alligable thats for sure played for wesley and now adelaide but the aps team of the decade would be the best 22 that played aps then afl. and coz F.Watts has rairly played that well for adelaide i agree wouldnt select him to play in the team of the decade.

 

[Mr Wong]

All school APS, ACC teams would beat SHC from SA

Burleigh

 

[Flying Joey]

All school APS, ACC teams would beat SHC from SA

Burleigh

correct u no-brainer....everyone knows the melb colleges are the strongest in the land..... ur progressively losing more and more credibility cos ur always wong

 

[Powers manager]

Its hard to know where to draw the line on how few games players can have played in either the APS or the AFL. McQualter and Ellis I believe will without a doubt prove their ability and if we had this thread in a year or two they would I assume be on it. Brett Deledio's short time at Caulfield surely makes him inalegible.

 

[APS_talentscout]

PEGS have the player that is leading posession getter in the AFL this year, Scott West, he would be one of the best grabs for AGSV!

 

[A_Kerr]

definitely ryan o'keefe (st kevins)

 

[Main Man]

AGS has the two biggest Shanes of them all Crawford and Warne... The APS can go and suck on a lemon!

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

KPP look no further than L Penny from St Kevin's.

Plus S Garlick (SKC), S Powell (SKC). Both close to 200 game players at AFL level.

Before people name the likes of Daniel Jackson who has played about 5 games, should look at Bowen Lockwood (PA and Geel Coll), David Clarke (Carl/Geel & Geel Coll), A Kellaway, Chaffey, Damian Ryan all Caulfield 1995.

David Bourke (Xav's).
Andrew Scauble (Xav's)
Chad Davis (Carey)

Worth mentioning also Donald & David Cockatoo-Collins (Melbourne & Wesley). In 1996 they played one week for Melbourne seniors then the next for Wesley First XVIII. Can;t imagine that happening in AGS or ACC.

 

[FootyGuru]

there would have been alot of players that could deserve a spot in the aps team of the decade that didint go on to make afl.
i cant believe people are naming brett deledio, as i remember he didnt even play one game with caulfield

 

[username]

as if goddard, most overrated player ever... yet he did alrite in his school footy years

 

[Number 8]

There would be quite a few guys from MGS 2004/05 team get a gig. LIKe Ellis, Hawkins, Gooleys x 2, Leslie, morrison,thomas, They all dominated at APS level and some very unlucky not to get picked especially when people like Watts and erickson have been picked up in recent years

 

[brian speaking]

Add Nick Stone(Haw, Coll, StK) Wesley, Simon Arnott Wesley.

 

[brian speaking]

leoncelli, mcdonald, schauble (XAV)

Mac Donalds did not go to Xavier, they went to BAllarat High School.