jmac70
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I’m pretty sure he was driving for Williams.
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Player Watch Ash Johnson (Delisted 2024)
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Wonder how he’d go in the backline given his leap and hands.
NMBB
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Stop posting?
jmac70
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TD, you’ve abused him more than any other poster. Would be easier if you just stop calling him useless.
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TD, put yourself in his shoes. How would you feel if people started abusing you and referencing disability for no other reason than having a couple of bad days at work?
Critisism is fine, repeatedly kicking a bloke whilst he's down isn't a very nice thing to do.
Please all, be gentle with Ash.
Things certainly appear not completely well with him at the moment, and there’s a very fair chance that’s a very big understatement.
He gives the appearance rightly or wrongly of being a sensitive gentle soul and no-one even the thickest skinned people would have handled the on line and over-the-fence abuse he’s received.
Like many others on here, I’m worried about how he’s coping.
For heavens sake, please be kind, understanding forgiving and get behind him, there’s more to life than footy and let’s just show that if you’re Collingwood, then you’re family.
Thanks
Things certainly appear not completely well with him at the moment, and there’s a very fair chance that’s a very big understatement.
He gives the appearance rightly or wrongly of being a sensitive gentle soul and no-one even the thickest skinned people would have handled the on line and over-the-fence abuse he’s received.
Like many others on here, I’m worried about how he’s coping.
For heavens sake, please be kind, understanding forgiving and get behind him, there’s more to life than footy and let’s just show that if you’re Collingwood, then you’re family.
Thanks
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Saying it's mental isn't saying he has mental health issues. You conflating the two.
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why?
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They probably said that about Howe early days too at Melbourne, forwards tend to tackle more than defenders these days anyways
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I’m going to back him in to come back. We’ve seen what he’s capable of, so has the rest of the comp who have put more time into him and he’s fighting to adjust. I do find it weird that he gets singled out often straight after a series of comments bemoaning our forward entries or just bombing it long as in our first two games this year or like today when apparently our midfield barely fired a shot. He can improve certain areas of his game sure but I don’t know what his instructions are for a particular game and I just don’t believe he’s just ignoring them or not trying.
Thankfully he’s at a great club at present and even if footy turns out to be not what he wants in the end or he doesn’t quite get back to the level that’s fine too. He deserves our support which can always include criticism. He doesn’t deserve abuse or need rescuing either. Go Ash!!
Thankfully he’s at a great club at present and even if footy turns out to be not what he wants in the end or he doesn’t quite get back to the level that’s fine too. He deserves our support which can always include criticism. He doesn’t deserve abuse or need rescuing either. Go Ash!!
Clearly Ash isn’t in the best space at the moment, as his on-field performances and body language suggest. He seems to be struggling and is down on his luck.
We’ve seen how this current era of the club under Fly wants to wrap its arm around players and support them when tough times fall, and I reckon that’s what needs to be done for Ash Johnson at this stage. Frankly, I can foresee a situation where he takes time away from football in the near future.
And look, by all means you can criticise his performances as they are well sub par but the relentless pile on and personal abuse from our supporters has been pretty embarrassing and feels very against what this current era of the Pies is trying to stand for.
We’ve seen how this current era of the club under Fly wants to wrap its arm around players and support them when tough times fall, and I reckon that’s what needs to be done for Ash Johnson at this stage. Frankly, I can foresee a situation where he takes time away from football in the near future.
And look, by all means you can criticise his performances as they are well sub par but the relentless pile on and personal abuse from our supporters has been pretty embarrassing and feels very against what this current era of the Pies is trying to stand for.
memoryofmchale
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Maybe it’s time for him to take leave and get well because at the moment, he’s fatigued, tired and struggling.
The abuse has been unwarranted and unacceptable. The criticism about his game is not.
jmac70
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Maybe the best thing is to keep playing footy with his mates.
jmac70
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Calling him useless all the time is abuse. You should stop.
TradeDraft
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Please all, be gentle with Ash.
Things certainly appear not completely well with him at the moment, and there’s a very fair chance that’s a very big understatement.
He gives the appearance rightly or wrongly of being a sensitive gentle soul and no-one even the thickest skinned people would have handled the on line and over-the-fence abuse he’s received.
Like many others on here, I’m worried about how he’s coping.
For heavens sake, please be kind, understanding forgiving and get behind him, there’s more to life than footy and let’s just show that if you’re Collingwood, then you’re family.
Thanks
So I better just shut up then
Guess we have to be Nice to a Player that is in Terrible Form and his Intensity and Effort is not where it should be
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Stop this, c'mon
jmac70
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“Be nice.”
Sounds like a good place to start.
Scodog10
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On the ball yes. In the ruck no. Why is it silly? The reality is it’s a frank assessment of a guy who was best 23 only 4 matches back. His confidence would be a bigger disadvantage than the structural gains we might get over a small like HH or Richards. He has the talent to work through it and we employ Louder to guide people through times like this. I hope he bounces back, but to pull punches on assessing where he’s at serves no productive purpose, IMO (I draw the line at the personal stuff I hear is getting flung his way).
I think he can make stints work. He doesn’t necessarily need to be a full length of ground runner and it’s VFL level so what’s the harm?
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Especially considering its only round 6. The best thing for him is to keep playing with his mates
jmac70
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Clearly he’s not getting back into the AFL side anytime soon, regardless of injury scenarios.
We agree that a change of role in the VFL could help, particularly if it gets him involved in the game.
Has too much talent to give up on.
TradeDraft
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Might as well stay off BigFooty for awhile then
memoryofmchale
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Playing AJ in the middle won’t happen. Or on the wing. Can’t run well enough and would be easily outplayed. Our mids should play mid.
memoryofmchale
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What role is there for him to play?
Ruck - minimal involvement
Midfield - can’t run well enough
Wing - see above
Defence - new position, expect the same results. He doesn’t have those traits as a forward let alone a defender.
jmac70
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That’s up to you TD. I hope you keep posting because you know your stuff. Maybe go a bit easier on the players.
