The Royal Sampler
Floreat Pica, Bitch!
Talented guy, just plays an uncontested game unless it’s taking hangers on people. Not what our gameplan demands.
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Player Watch Ash Johnson (Delisted 2024)
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Mollythedolly
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Still has time, remainder of this year and all of next. I’d rather hope that he pulls it together than write him off.
VinnieB
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- Oct 28, 2021
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I don't understand why we would try to make AJ a backman? Is that because he is struggling to play the position he has played all his life?
FWIW I think he makes a terrible defender. He isn't a physical player, doesn't man up, loses confidence easily, and generally not an overly competitive.
At best, maybe he just plays half forward moving up to the wing.
I think one of his problems is that when he plays deep forward, he is hanging around the back looking to take a hanger.
Not sure he likes to get in a physical tussle in a contest.
FWIW I think he makes a terrible defender. He isn't a physical player, doesn't man up, loses confidence easily, and generally not an overly competitive.
At best, maybe he just plays half forward moving up to the wing.
I think one of his problems is that when he plays deep forward, he is hanging around the back looking to take a hanger.
Not sure he likes to get in a physical tussle in a contest.
Abdul_The_Bull
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AJ seems to be like the Chocolate Frogs in Harry Potter - only has one big effort in him.
I watched him closely against the Doggies and he has no second efforts in him. That needs to change - which is simply work rate - for him to have any chance. I hope it clicks for him.
I watched him closely against the Doggies and he has no second efforts in him. That needs to change - which is simply work rate - for him to have any chance. I hope it clicks for him.
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I hope he pulls it together as well but we need to look where on the ground he’s more likely to do so.
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My hope has always been he develops the tank for that role but it seems unlikely at this point.
memoryofmchale
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- Feb 11, 2024
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AJ cannot and should not play on the wing. Running capacity isn’t there.
The answer is because he was struggling really badly as a forward at vfl level.
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I still remember some of the great things he did in the seniors. Sticky hands and that beautiful flowing kicking style.
My view is that he stays as a forward and we leave him in the VFL until he forces his way back in.
Fingers crossed he gets back to the good times and he can come back in as that dangerous third tall
My view is that he stays as a forward and we leave him in the VFL until he forces his way back in.
Fingers crossed he gets back to the good times and he can come back in as that dangerous third tall
Tarkyn_24
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If it’s a choice between retaining Reef and paying out Johnson’s contract in full and opening up his list spot a year early or retaining Johnson I’m certainly going the former.
sr36
TheBrownDog
That's even more ridiculous than normal Kapp.
- Jul 19, 2019
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We either honor it or delist and pay him out. Either way, it's honouring the contract
Technically yes, however delisting him is clearly not in the spirit of the contract...
Because that would be the decent thing to do. He showed some skill in 22 and some of 23 he looked good. But we may pay him out or give him away for nothing to an interested club if we can find one.
Obviously we pay him out, but we dont keep him on the list for 2025, because that's a wasted list spot.
Doubt it will happen. He will be retained imo if a trade cant be done. We might put him on the rookie list at worst. Only hurts player morale to delist him like that.
Watching some of his VFL efforts would hurt morale more. How do you tell kids to chase hard and tackle when the senior players aren't?
sr36
TheBrownDog
The problem for him is our third tall is a ruckman. Then it's an allrounder in Elliott. He needs to be able to offer a reliable aerial contest as one of our two talls or develop a ground level game - and neither are likely.
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I think we'll delist him and pay out his remaining year. He wouldn't be on much and to be Honest, he's afraid of the contest and hasn't got the drive. It's a shame but his future is in his own hands but doesn't want it. He's played more AFL than me though. No one wanted old manic except a couple of nibbles from the scum
sr36
TheBrownDog
He's a write off in our game style. My question is, is there a club that plays a style where they hit up leading forwards all the way up to the wing where AJ could succeed?
I would say Carlton plays a more controlled style game that relies on leading forwards. They also lack a third tall forward. I guess it is whether they want McKay to stay at home or be that lead up?
i've been a big supporter of AJ's over the journey cos he clearly has the talent
lack of intensity & willingness to do the blue-collar stuff is simply terminal in today's footy
appears he's lost the support of the coaches as precursor / post-script to a massive loss of his own self-confidence
as the 3rd /4th banana would be a decent Elliott or WHE (as a forward) replacement ..offensive stuff only cos he just doesn't seem to buy into the defensive side of things
alas
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TheBrownDog
With us, it's not just the defensive stuff - it's also the ground level stuff in terms of what Elliott offers. Repeat effort after repeat effort in the air or on the ground.
Some teams play more of a hit up style from their forwards. He'd be a chance in that game style.
