Trade Requested Bailey Smith

[Libbaaaa]

Given recent history I would have thought you'd prefer to play there

2023 doesn't count and this year was awesome but enough of playing down there.

 

[PurpJuice]

I agree that the Cats culture would probably be better for him (in terms of off-field, etc).
However, I think he would much rather be part of the culture brewing over at Hawthorn.

It will be interesting to see who he nominates. As others have said, it seems we have really cooled on him as our focus has moved to a key defender given our midfield seems to have massively developed this year.

It doesn’t make sense that he’d leave the dogs to join Hawks. The reason he’d go to Geelong (or suns) does make sense though.

 

[Sirlemsip]

It doesn’t make sense that he’d leave the dogs to join Hawks. The reason he’d go to Geelong (or suns) does make sense though.

It made sense to the Hawks 12 months ago.

With our development over this season he would need to battle it out with Day, Newcombe, Worpel and Nash for a main spot in the midfield rotations, and there is no guarantee he would get the spot.

Whereas at the cats he is the perfect player to take over from Danger as the number 1 man.

 

[PurpJuice]

It made sense to the Hawks 12 months ago.

With our development over this season he would need to battle it out with Day, Newcombe, Worpel and Nash for a main spot in the midfield rotations, and there is no guarantee he would get the spot.

Whereas at the cats he is the perfect player to take over from Danger as the number 1 man.

That’s what I mean, Hawks and Dogs are on similar trajectories and both have a set midfield he’d struggle to get a game in.

Suns and Geelong could use him, and he’d get away from the noise a bit.

 

[Sirlemsip]

That’s what I mean, Hawks and Dogs are on similar trajectories and both have a set midfield he’d struggle to get a game in.

Suns and Geelong could use him, and he’d get away from the noise a bit.

Suns have Miller, Rowell, Anderson and Flanders. That midfield is just as good as Hawks.

 

[PurpJuice]

Suns have Miller, Rowell, Anderson and Flanders. That midfield is just as good as Hawks.

They get belted in the midfield often

 

[CatToTheFuture]

2023 doesn't count and this year was awesome but enough of playing down there.

Our game style doesn't suit Kardinia anymore, hasn't for 3 years now. If I'm opposition I'm asking for games against us there over the mcg

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I agree that the Cats culture would probably be better for him (in terms of off-field, etc).
However, I think he would much rather be part of the culture brewing over at Hawthorn.

It will be interesting to see who he nominates. As others have said, it seems we have really cooled on him as our focus has moved to a key defender given our midfield seems to have massively developed this year.

Read halfback dashers post.

He’s not for us.

 

[Sector 7G]

Would be a perfect pick up for the pies if they had a first rounder this year. Would be brave to trade away a first for the second year in a row with an ageing list.

 

[Pablito]

Top 5 player in the comp at his best imo.

Should be 2 first rounders if he's still under contract. Don't think they'll get that but that's what it should be.

 

[foxdog50]

They get belted in the midfield often

Give the Suns a couple more years, and they will be up there ..

 

[hawksalltheway]

It made sense to the Hawks 12 months ago.

With our development over this season he would need to battle it out with Day, Newcombe, Worpel and Nash for a main spot in the midfield rotations, and there is no guarantee he would get the spot.

Whereas at the cats he is the perfect player to take over from Danger as the number 1 man.

is he an extractor or more of an outside mid?

 

[PurpJuice]

Give the Suns a couple more years, and they will be up there ..

I’ve been hearing that for the past ten years. At some point you have to reel in a big fish. Makes sense why they’re making a play for Ba.

 

[FootyLad0]

is he an extractor or more of an outside mid?

More of an accumulating outside mid…which is exactly what we need.
Cuthrie hasn’t played for basically two years and he was that guy for us.

We already have bulk defensive mids eg Blicavs, Atkins, Bowes, Clark
Only really have Holmes when he goes in there and Bruhn as attacking mids.

Danger is kind of a “one of a kind bull” that only comes around once a generation so not really any comparable types around the League to bring in,

 

[hawksalltheway]

More of an accumulating outside mid…which is exactly what we need.
Cuthrie hasn’t played for basically two years and he was that guy for us.

We already have bulk defensive mids eg Blicavs, Atkins, Bowes, Clark
Only really have Holmes when he goes in there and Bruhn as attacking mids.

Danger is kind of a “one of a kind bull” that only comes around once a generation so not really any comparable types around the League to bring in,

thats what i thought, been a while since i saw him play, but an absolute jet attacking mid is what i thought - would be a real steal for anything less than a couple of high picks

 

[Sirlemsip]

is he an extractor or more of an outside mid?

He wants to play as an extractor that can burst out of the stoppage with pace, similar to Eagles-era Judd.

I don't think he is the kind of player you want to have as your 'outside' mid because his disposal by foot isn't fantastic.

At Hawthorn he'd be fighting for a spot against Newcombe and Worpel.
If I had a choice between 2021 finals Smith and Worpel, I'd take Smith every time.

This year Worpel has performed very well (I think he's been very underrated this year) and there is no way to know exactly how Smith will come back after his ACL.

There is no reason for Hawks to pursue him anymore given we have quite good depth in the midfield now, with AFL quality youngsters like Ward, Hustwaite and Maginness being held back in the 2s.

 

[PurpJuice]

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Nice way of putting it. He had something like a 2% kicking efficiency i50 last year.

 

[Ash1337]

I wonder if Egan will be working on this deal with Power to get a good outcome. If there's a player the club can target for steak knives.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He wants to play as an extractor that can burst out of the stoppage with pace, similar to Eagles-era Judd.

I don't think he is the kind of player you want to have as your 'outside' mid because his disposal by foot isn't fantastic.

At Hawthorn he'd be fighting for a spot against Newcombe and Worpel.
If I had a choice between 2021 finals Smith and Worpel, I'd take Smith every time.

This year Worpel has performed very well (I think he's been very underrated this year) and there is no way to know exactly how Smith will come back after his ACL.

There is no reason for Hawks to pursue him anymore given we have quite good depth in the midfield now, with AFL quality youngsters like Ward, Hustwaite and Maginness being held back in the 2s.

I agree with this. The player he wants to be and the player we need are in perfect alignment

 

[Libbaaaa]

I wonder if Egan will be working on this deal with Power to get a good outcome. If there's a player the club can target for steak knives.

Cats first and Holmes may get a deal done.

 

[Ash1337]

Cats first and Holmes may get a deal done.

Realistically Cats first and Knevitt. He's kind of what dogs could use as a inside/outside mid.

 

[foxdog50]

Realistically Cats first and Knevitt. He's kind of what dogs could use as a inside/outside mid.

You have that many midfielders in your squad and team , Knevitt is the last person you will need...

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

He wants to play as an extractor that can burst out of the stoppage with pace, similar to Eagles-era Judd.

I don't think he is the kind of player you want to have as your 'outside' mid because his disposal by foot isn't fantastic.

At Hawthorn he'd be fighting for a spot against Newcombe and Worpel.
If I had a choice between 2021 finals Smith and Worpel, I'd take Smith every time.

This year Worpel has performed very well (I think he's been very underrated this year) and there is no way to know exactly how Smith will come back after his ACL.

There is no reason for Hawks to pursue him anymore given we have quite good depth in the midfield now, with AFL quality youngsters like Ward, Hustwaite and Maginness being held back in the 2s.

It's an opinion game and Smith is a marvellous player, but Worpel has had 3 seasons (2019, 2023 and 2024) where his average afl rankings points have been better than Smith's best season, the 2021 season you are talking about. Worpel also has a B&F when we weren't completely shit (hawks finished 9th).

They play a very similar game, inside power but questions on their kicking. However Worpels kicking has improved out of sight this year.

So I agree, he is no longer a need for hawthorn. (I would still be delighted if they got him though!)

Many Hawks fans have taken until this year to realise that Worpel is the better player, myself included. He has done it more consistently in more seasons.

Good luck to Bailey, I like him as a character and hope he recovers well.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

You have that many midfielders in your squad and team , Knevitt is the last person you will need...

We kind of at a point where we need to be mindful that Libba Treloar and Macrae are 30 or older. Bont is late 20s too.

 

[foxdog50]

We kind of at a point where we need to be mindful that Libba Treloar and Macrae are 30 or older. Bont is late 20s too.

You got plenty of Kids coming through... mix them in over year or 2 and blend it in and it will go well