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General Giant said:
I find it amusing you seem hurt that league is being mocked on an Aussie Rules forum.


Especially considering the drivel that came/comes out of LU and World Of Rugby League before it.

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Thank you for this post.

I am fine with you knocking rugby league or whatever sports, but equally you should be fine with me defending rugby league.

The main reason I post here, is I think it helps to provide a voice from a different circle then perhaps what a lot of people are used to hearing.

FTR I am not hurt, I am just defending league.
 
papabear said:
Thank you for this post.

I am fine with you knocking rugby league or whatever sports, but equally you should be fine with me defending rugby league.

The main reason I post here, is I think it helps to provide a voice from a different circle then perhaps what a lot of people are used to hearing.

FTR I am not hurt, I am just defending league.
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Defending the indefensible Eh? Esp on a board full of Australian Football fanatics

The big difference is we allow you to come on here and get belted around
Try this as an AFL supporter or should it be GayFL/Victard over on LU and see how log you last!
 

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Our Game said:
Defending the indefensible Eh? Esp on a board full of Australian Football fanatics

The big difference is we allow you to come on here and get belted around
Try this as an AFL supporter or should it be GayFL/Victard over on LU and see how log you last!
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Eh, its all in good fun, I think a lot AFL fans and RL fans have a lot more in common and a lot more mutual respect then alot of people give them credit for, reading garlic munchers post about southern nsw is good, they are just two games for kids to play and run around and have fun facing a lot of the same problems.

Although I post on LU I do not speak for them, though Thegh canberra raiders rugby league forum, I think is pretty reasonable to AFL.

I also think a lot of the more reasonable people on this forum would last fine on any rugby league forum.

Keeping in mind that there are a lot of things Homer AFL fans believe to be true which simply are not. Similarly there are a lot of things Homer NRL fans believe to be trust which simply are not. Thus, if you go close to those truths you have to be a bit wary :p.

Funny thing is, all I really want is the raiders to get up on the weekend, and if I watch any other sporting contest just a good match where both sides are having a dig.
 
It would be a hoot a Sydney v Brisbane AFL grand final just to watch the arrogant rugby league types squirm in their cheap bourbon.

There would be no need for a Barassi Line if that occured.

I would go up there in my footy gear and flags just annoy them for the week.
 
Fitzcray said:
It would be a hoot a Sydney v Brisbane AFL grand final just to watch the arrogant rugby league types squirm in their cheap bourbon.

There would be no need for a Barassi Line if that occured.

I would go up there in my footy gear and flags just annoy them for the week.
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Arent you scared of being attacked though?
 
Fitzcray said:
Not for a week like that when football would be the main course.

I wouldn't be the only one out and flaunting it.
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So they are thugs who intimidate you, except when you go up there to provoke them?
 
Just for papabear the RL got a total of only 102,000 last weekend for an ave of 12,000 The Perth game was also a flop with only 11,000?
Looking at that game on TV and the one yesterday at ANZ they must have counted them twice.
 
Our Game said:
Just for papabear the RL got a total of only 102,000 last weekend for an ave of 12,000 The Perth game was also a flop with only 11,000?
Looking at that game on TV and the one yesterday at ANZ they must have counted them twice.
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Posting just for me ;). Besides the empty seats it was a good game.

Raiders won and I can be happy again :)
 
Another take on the respective popularity of AF and RL.

RL clubs

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AF clubs

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And the geomid point of each codes popularity.
http://www.geomidpoint.com/example.html

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Just on the post above, it is not 100% accurate, for Ex there seems to be plenty of clubs missing around Gippsland and Northern WA at least.

But it gives a decent overlay.
 
Garlic muncher said:
Just on the post above, it is not 100% accurate, for Ex there seems to be plenty of clubs missing around Gippsland and Northern WA at least.

But it gives a decent overlay.
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Nice graphics.

Also was going to say not entirely accurate.

Missing a hundred or so clubs in the NT - For example Maningrida in Arnhem Land has 10 clubs - also missing around 25 clubs that are spread across the desert.
 
Average location of Australian football clubs in NSW 1900-Present
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Establishment of Australian football clubs in NSW 1876-Present
LARGER VERSION

https://colinross.co/2016/12/29/australian-football-in-nsw/

Those two graphics i would have thought represent population movement, particularly in the Riverina through farming families from the South in the early days.

From the mid century onwards there is a clear northward shift in the average location, due to the influence of an increasing number of clubs in Sydney and northern NSW.

In terms of observing broad patterns I think there is still a lot to be taken from this. The maps support the story of Australian football’s popularity in NSW changing from being limited to areas near South Australia and Victoria, to one with increasing presence and importance in the rest of the state and Sydney in particular.

Those graphics actually reinforce the AFL's decision to plant a second team in Sydney.

Look at the growth in Sydney clubs and surrounds since the Swans moved to Sydney and since about the 1980's on the second graphic.

Actually if anyone is capable of reproducing those graphics properly on here i would be grateful.
 
Gigantor said:
So centre of Australian Football appears to be around Nhil.

The centre of rugby league appears to be around Narrabri.

The meeting point appears to be around Condobolin.
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Good graphic -but misleading.
As others have pointed out, some AF areas have been omitted. eg NT is extremely strong for AF, it can be called a heartland now, certainly far more participants than RL -but the graphic appears to show both codes have similar no. of clubs (and, of course, AF has about an average of 30% more players per team).
Also, in the major pop. centre of SE Qld., AF regd. nos. are almost on par with RL regd. nos.

Also, I don't think this graph reveals primary & secondary school players for either AF or RL -but AF is, generally, much stronger in schools (RL is virtually non-existent in schools in Vic., WA, SA, & Tas; conversely, AF often has a good school team presence in NSW, ACT, & Qld.)

I doubt it also includes non-club Auskick, which exists all over Australia.

When were the graphics done -based on what year?
It has been publicly recorded by NRL & ARU officials that their GR male contact regd. nos. have been in decline for years.
 
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BringBackTorps said:
Also, I don't think this graph reveals primary & secondary school players for either AF or RL -but AF is, generally, much stronger in schools (RL is virtually non-existent in schools in Vic., WA, SA, & Tas; conversely, AF often has a good school team presence in NSW, ACT, & Qld.
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Back when I was in my state high school about 5-10 years ago, one of the PE teachers was from Sydney and was big on his Rugby League, so he got a few of the students, like me, who played a lot of different sports and would be open to the idea of learning/playing RL, to convince a few mates to put together a school RL team. We played in a single tournament of which the winner, straight away, went and played the winner of equivalent competitions in SA/WA etc., who, the winner, in turn, would enter the NSW/Qld schools competition part-way through. Googling around, it turns out that it's this competition, I think.

The point being, there was about a half-dozen state secondary schools in the entirety of Victoria - all of which were demolished, including us, by a school out in Hallam who runs some sort of RL academy. It might have improved since then, but there were quite literally only a half-dozen teams playing RL in state schools when I played it, and even then, virtually everyone on my team did so at the behest of a PE teacher we liked, and not because of any groundswell support of the sport or the fact that any of us played club RL (one or two might have played club RU, but that's it), which seemed to be the case for 3-4 of the other schools that we played against. Not saying that this is representative of RL junior/teenage numbers in Victoria, given that private schools and club teams obviously exist, but the point being is that we were quite literally one of the 6-7 state secondary schools in the entire state that could be bothered putting a team together, and it was largely due to the enthusiasm of a Sydney-origin PE teacher who was willing to coach us.

Compare that to the various competitions run by AFL NSW/ACT, as I found in this link, which includes 5 separate competitions for Primary and Secondary boys, various girls competitions, and various school sport representation pathways, all of which is completely separate to the the Auskick -> club -> Swans/Giants academies that many would associate with footy in Sydney (though I'm sure that any given player who dominates these competitions would get an invite if they were overlooked for the academies when they were younger). The difference in youth participation on each side of the Barassi Line is massively significant.
 
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threenewpadlocks said:
Back when I was in my state high school about 5-10 years ago, one of the PE teachers was from Sydney and was big on his Rugby League, so he got a few of the students, like me, who played a lot of different sports and would be open to the idea of learning/playing RL, to convince a few mates to put together a school RL team. We played in a single tournament of which the winner, straight away, went and played the winner of equivalent competitions in SA/WA etc., who, the winner, in turn, would enter the NSW/Qld schools competition part-way through. Googling around, it turns out that it's this competition, I think.

The point being, there was about a half-dozen state secondary schools in the entirety of Victoria - all of which were demolished, including us, by a school out in Hallam who runs some sort of RL academy. It might have improved since then, but there were quite literally only a half-dozen teams playing RL in state schools when I played it, and even then, virtually everyone on my team did so at the behest of a PE teacher we liked, and not because of any groundswell support of the sport or the fact that any of us played club RL (one or two might have played club RU, but that's it), which seemed to be the case for 3-4 of the other schools that we played against. Not saying that this is representative of RL junior/teenage numbers in Victoria, given that private schools and club teams obviously exist, but the point being is that we were quite literally one of the 6-7 state secondary schools in the entire state that could be bothered putting a team together, and it was largely due to the enthusiasm of a Sydney-origin PE teacher who was willing to coach us.

Compare that to the various competitions run by AFL NSW/ACT, as I found in this link, which includes 5 separate competitions for Primary and Secondary boys, various girls competitions, and various school sport representation pathways, all of which is completely separate to the the Auskick -> club -> Swans/Giants academies that many would associate with footy in Sydney (though I'm sure that any given player who dominates these competitions would get an invite if they were overlooked for the academies when they were younger). The difference in youth participation on each side of the Barassi Line is massively significant.
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How is touch footy going in melbourne?
 

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