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BFL Bellarine Football League 2018

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Powersaur said:
Looks like Port rolled Drysdale. Should be an interesting week on here.
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I think Rosco is still banned so it should be sedate.

Drysie would be kicking themselves though, the big fella up forward clunked about four contested marks in the last quarter but didn’t impact the scoreboard with his shots.

Good pressure game all day and well done on the Port boys for the win.
 
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bushbattler said:
Why not, surely you want the best players in the comp playing in these games, or should everyone get a turn for services rendered or cause someone’s old man pumps up the footy’s


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Well you are close to my thinking, obviously everyone doesn’t get a turn.
But inter league should be a reward for efforts in past seasons, not awarded to blokes who have played a hand full of games.



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Sickofthecrap said:
Well you are close to my thinking, obviously everyone doesn’t get a turn.
But inter league should be a reward for efforts in past seasons, not awarded to blokes who have played a hand full of games.


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Interleague should be the best possible players available. Doesnt matter if they have played 300 games or 1. If they are good enough, get them in. Simple.
Its not junior underage footy where everyone gets a go or you get reward for effort, its purely about ability and representing the league with the best available players.
 
Powersaur said:
Looks like Port rolled Drysdale. Should be an interesting week on here.
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Got to be a bit concerned ATM.. considering both Newcomb and Port have beaten Drysdale, but they flogged us at home on opening day.
Knocking off the Jobbies this week would only make that statistic seem even worse, but that might be just a bit too optimistic. Still, I guess they are due...
 
beaublazer said:
Who was stiff to miss out on the inter league squad? Meesen, Cartelli, Hebbard, Blake Grant Matt O'Dwyer off the top of my head should be in. Maybe they are too old but then taht doesnt explain the selection of Brad King, Dodds, Paul Mcmahon. Couple of surprising names from Barwon Heads in among them. Wade McSparron got dropped by his old man and he still makes the squad. No doubt he has talent though. Bit of a head scratcher
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Good to see Justin Maher get in, a bit of a shock though as he's been in and out of the ones for a fair while now. Great to see he's doing the #1 Guernsey proud!
 
Mark Corrigan lining up for heads...if he plays the rest of the season lock them in for flag favourites. He's an out and out star.
 
Sickofthecrap said:
I think it’s BS especially when it’s not the same for everyone.
Let the salary cap do its job at least that’s an even playing field


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Disagree, points can’t be cheated. The cap can.

I have no issue with some clubs having more allocated points than others. After all, the AFL rewards a poor performing team with first access the best talent. Equalisation is good IMO.
 

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Go Richo 12 said:
Disagree, points can’t be cheated. The cap can.

I have no issue with some clubs having more allocated points than others. After all, the AFL rewards a poor performing team with first access the best talent. Equalisation is good IMO.
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Sorry but I disagree about equalisation. It's killed the integrity of the AFL and it will do the same in other leagues. IMHO it should be survival of the fittest. Maybe I'm a bit biased as my club survived some very tough and lean times through the 80s and 90s and fought their way back to a threepeat, but I don't like any form of equalisation policy as it punishes the hard work done by more successful clubs.
I for one don't want to see a competition where you doubt the integrity of results as a consequence of league meddling and adjusting, like the AFL. It opens the door for all sorts of corruption which is a stain on the game. You only have to look at the AFL as a yardstick, which has an unwritten ( but blatantly obvious to all but the most gullible fools who probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny ) decree that the two NSW clubs must be successful and consistent finalists, in order to access the big Sydney market with bloated incomes to keep the struggling Melbourne based clubs viable, and another unwritten rule that games must be ' close ' or ' audience friendly ' , and for a concept that ' any team can beat any other team on the day ' for the TV networks to keep tipping their lolly in, for the same reason. As a result you have the ludicrous situation in the AFL where upset results are more common on a weekly basis than predictable ones, and that is just not reality. And is probably making a lot of betting agencies a lot of money as well.
It would be a very sad day if this sort of crud became the norm in the Bellarine league, or any minor league. Sure, some people might not enjoy seeing Newcomb and Portarlington getting belted every week, but it is up to them to fight their way out of it and not rely on handouts or measures that penalise other clubs for their efficiency and ability to attract talent.
 
Lighthouse End said:
Sorry but I disagree about equalisation. It's killed the integrity of the AFL and it will do the same in other leagues. IMHO it should be survival of the fittest. Maybe I'm a bit biased as my club survived some very tough and lean times through the 80s and 90s and fought their way back to a threepeat, but I don't like any form of equalisation policy as it punishes the hard work done by more successful clubs.
I for one don't want to see a competition where you doubt the integrity of results as a consequence of league meddling and adjusting, like the AFL. It opens the door for all sorts of corruption which is a stain on the game. You only have to look at the AFL as a yardstick, which has an unwritten ( but blatantly obvious to all but the most gullible fools who probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny ) decree that the two NSW clubs must be successful and consistent finalists, in order to access the big Sydney market with bloated incomes to keep the struggling Melbourne based clubs viable, and another unwritten rule that games must be ' close ' or ' audience friendly ' , and for a concept that ' any team can beat any other team on the day ' for the TV networks to keep tipping their lolly in, for the same reason. As a result you have the ludicrous situation in the AFL where upset results are more common on a weekly basis than predictable ones, and that is just not reality. And is probably making a lot of betting agencies a lot of money as well.
It would be a very sad day if this sort of crud became the norm in the Bellarine league, or any minor league. Sure, some people might not enjoy seeing Newcomb and Portarlington getting belted every week, but it is up to them to fight their way out of it and not rely on handouts or measures that penalise other clubs for their efficiency and ability to attract talent.
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Great idea. There would be 4 team leagues all over the state. You must be the only person in the world who longs for 100 point plus drubbings every week in football, even at the highest level.
 
Lighthouse End said:
Sorry but I disagree about equalisation. It's killed the integrity of the AFL and it will do the same in other leagues. IMHO it should be survival of the fittest. Maybe I'm a bit biased as my club survived some very tough and lean times through the 80s and 90s and fought their way back to a threepeat, but I don't like any form of equalisation policy as it punishes the hard work done by more successful clubs.
I for one don't want to see a competition where you doubt the integrity of results as a consequence of league meddling and adjusting, like the AFL. It opens the door for all sorts of corruption which is a stain on the game. You only have to look at the AFL as a yardstick, which has an unwritten ( but blatantly obvious to all but the most gullible fools who probably still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny ) decree that the two NSW clubs must be successful and consistent finalists, in order to access the big Sydney market with bloated incomes to keep the struggling Melbourne based clubs viable, and another unwritten rule that games must be ' close ' or ' audience friendly ' , and for a concept that ' any team can beat any other team on the day ' for the TV networks to keep tipping their lolly in, for the same reason. As a result you have the ludicrous situation in the AFL where upset results are more common on a weekly basis than predictable ones, and that is just not reality. And is probably making a lot of betting agencies a lot of money as well.
It would be a very sad day if this sort of crud became the norm in the Bellarine league, or any minor league. Sure, some people might not enjoy seeing Newcomb and Portarlington getting belted every week, but it is up to them to fight their way out of it and not rely on handouts or measures that penalise other clubs for their efficiency and ability to attract talent.
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Is it possible to disagree and respond in fewer words?

My philosophy obviously is at at loggerheads to yours in footy and quite possibly in life but that’s ok. I don’t hate you for that.

I just think football in general works well when all the supporters, volunteers, members, players and sponsors think that one day their club might have a chance of winning the flag or making the finals.

Surely even the most hard hearted footy fan would like to see Port be half a chance to beat Ammos?
 
Go Richo 12 said:
Is it possible to disagree and respond in fewer words?

My philosophy obviously is at at loggerheads to yours in footy and quite possibly in life but that’s ok. I don’t hate you for that.

I just think football in general works well when all the supporters, volunteers, members, players and sponsors think that one day their club might have a chance of winning the flag or making the finals.

Surely even the most hard hearted footy fan would like to see Port be half a chance to beat Ammos?
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Well nobody could dispute your passion Lighthouse, but I don’t believe comparing AFL to our little comp down here on the coast is apples V apples, every comp in the land has a top half and a bottom half just look at the ladders at seasons end.
If you preserve and work hard ie your clubs eg things will turn around.

Will the proposed relegation system be a good thing?
I think yes between BFL and GDFL not sure about going up to GFL though


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The points system is exactly what is needed. It’s relatively simple (most of the time) but what it really requires is smart and concise recruiting. That is the key. You cannot cheat the points system, it’s clean cut. As for people having more points than others, if you are informed correctly this will not always be the case. I believe that from next season onwards that each team will only receive 40 points. Every club in the region has had enough time to recruit and build a list and more importantly adjust to the points system over the past 3-4 seasons. Yes some are battling still but give it time and things will change. You don’t have to look far around clubs where it is already working, one instance I know is of a Queenscliff player originally wanted to join Ocean Grove but due to points pressure headed down the road and is now playing regular senior football.
Absolutely it does have some cons but the pros far outweigh them.
 
merrigan said:
Great idea. There would be 4 team leagues all over the state. You must be the only person in the world who longs for 100 point plus drubbings every week in football, even at the highest level.
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Actually, you have taken me out of context. I don't long for 100 point drubbings every week at all. What I want to see maintained is the integrity of the competition, and results reflective of where teams are at, not staged soap opera. For example last week my club copped a 100 point belting at Barwon Heads. I didn't enjoy that. But, as Barwon Heads are being lauded as the team to beat this year, and my boys have a swathe of serious injuries to key players, plus we never play well out there, it's easily rationalised as a true reflective result, and we move on. Now, if that had been the AFL, Queenscliff would have put in a ' miraculous form reversal ' and ' real backs to the wall effort ' and either won or come close to an upset, because Barwon Heads would have been ' encouraged ' to play lame to make it 'look good for the competition'. It's that sort of rubbish I don't want to see - manufactured results that are clearly staged and a result of equalisation policies to make everything seem even and unpredictable. Leave that crap in kids' competitions where they don't keep scores or award best player trophies so as no kid feels left out. Senior competition should be based on reality.
 
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Go Richo 12 said:
Is it possible to disagree and respond in fewer words?

My philosophy obviously is at at loggerheads to yours in footy and quite possibly in life but that’s ok. I don’t hate you for that.

I just think football in general works well when all the supporters, volunteers, members, players and sponsors think that one day their club might have a chance of winning the flag or making the finals.

Surely even the most hard hearted footy fan would like to see Port be half a chance to beat Ammos?
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Understand your point. Actually, I have quite a soft spot for Port from many years of the North vs South rivalry and many good hard fought contests, and would love to see them rise again and challenge the big boys. And I agree with your comments above but on the proviso that it is the result of the hard work of the clubs and not as a gift from the league, or blatant match rigging to produce an even competition like what happens in the AFL. I'd rather go back to the days of finishing 9th every year but knowing we gave it our best shot, than having the league ' fix ' games or give us a leg up to keep us viable and have us play the odd final.
 
Lighthouse End said:
Actually, you have taken me out of context. I don't long for 100 point drubbings every week at all. What I want to see maintained is the integrity of the competition, and results reflective of where teams are at, not staged soap opera. For example last week my club copped a 100 point belting at Barwon Heads. I didn't enjoy that. But, as Barwon Heads are being lauded as the team to beat this year, and my boys have a swathe of serious injuries to key players, plus we never play well out there, it's easily rationalised as a true reflective result, and we move on. Now, if that had been the AFL, Queenscliff would have put in a ' miraculous form reversal ' and ' real backs to the wall effort ' and either won or come close to an upset, because Barwon Heads would have been ' encouraged ' to play lame to make it 'look good for the competition'. It's that sort of rubbish I don't want to see - manufactured results that are clearly staged and a result of equalisation policies to make everything seem even and unpredictable. Leave that crap in kids' competitions where they don't keep scores or award best player trophies so as no kid feels left out. Senior competition should be based on reality.
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Encouraged to play lame? Get a grip mate. Do you check under the bed for monsters every night?
 
merrigan said:
Encouraged to play lame? Get a grip mate. Do you check under the bed for monsters every night?
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I remember the same puerile retorts being aimed at those who suggested international cricket was tainted by match fixing too. We all know how that panned out, don't we?
 
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