Delisted Ben Lennon [delisted]

[Snake_Baker]

Now i'm convinced you're in high school.

 

[THE_GUN]

Now i'm convinced you're in high school.

Convincing you is extremely easy, Its like trading with a 5 year old

 

[telsor]

Now i'm convinced you're in high school.

So going by your track record, that means he's definitely NOT in high school.


BTW, all that text you edited out of that post you quoted kinda defeated your point.

 

[Groin guru]

Glad to see bigfooty hasnt changed and good discussion about players has once again turned to an immature and childish argument about irrelevent topics.

Lets stay on track guys, any news on lennon?

Ps - north fan is delusional hahahahha

My mail is he's going to North.

 

[Le Grille]

My mail is he's going to North.

Stop it

 

[Grogg]

My mail is he's going to North.

Burn your mail then GG

 

[telsor]

Stop it

Burn your mail then GG

To be fair, he is replying to...

Ps - north fan is delusional hahahahha

So while I can understand other north fans not enjoying it, it was relevant, even if not deliberately so.

 

[Groin guru]

Stop it

You can't stop facts. The truth always comes out

 

[schmuttt]

GWS ,Melbourne , GC , StKIlda , Carlton - Have had a mortgage on the 1st round picks the last 15 years

Western Bulldogs & Richmond teams of 2016/17 are full of late picks and Rookies

1st round picks give you the core talent to win a flag, late picks and rookies help as role players. Only the Swans have bucked this trend (Geelong arguable but they got very lucky with F/S selections). Don't forget that of Richmonds big 4 (Martin/Cotchin/Rance/Riewoldt) two were top 5 picks and the other two 10-20.

 

[telsor]

You can't stop facts. The truth always comes out

This is not a factual statement.

 

[GordonBlue]

No what im saying

is that its pointless ruining the lives of young talented player with crap development, Carlton have had so many 1st round draft picks in the past and are still the worst performed team this century - Development is just as important and having the high draft picks
Richmond,Sydney,Geelong,Western Bulldogs,Hawks were all premiers but without anywhere near the types of picks Carlton has had.

Hope that helps

Your best players are picks 2, 3, 8 amd whatever pick Rance is.

The year before Pick 1 was your other best 5.

Let's not pretend your top picks didn't take you to a flag.

Also with a good recuiter, top picks are essential. The last two years Carlton's first round picks have been vital. Carlton only had pick 6 last year though. It's not enough time to judge if it will be successful.

Previous to that Carlton had pick 12 as the highest, pick 13 the year before, pick 19 before. So they didn't have a monopoly on top picks.

 

[TigerMoz1973]

Yarran for Lennon?

Drugs for Smugs

 

[tigerwill]

Your best players are picks 2, 3, 8 amd whatever pick Rance is.

The year before Pick 1 was your other best 5.

Let's not pretend your top picks didn't take you to a flag.

Also with a good recuiter, top picks are essential. The last two years Carlton's first round picks have been vital. Carlton only had pick 6 last year though. It's not enough time to judge if it will be successful.

Previous to that Carlton had pick 12 as the highest, pick 13 the year before, pick 19 before. So they didn't have a monopoly on top picks.

Rance was p18, we kept those picks and developed them. Apart from p7 used on Prestia.
Bit misleading re your picks 12, 13 & 19
How many picks were traded out ? ie to GWS. You can't trade them out then claim you never had the picks

 

[TwentyNine]

Rance was p18, we kept those picks and developed them. Apart from p7 used on Prestia.
Bit misleading re your picks 12, 13 & 19
How many picks were traded out ? ie to GWS. You can't trade them out then claim you never had the picks

Priority pick 18. And yet it's Richmond fans who accuse us of being propped up by the AFL.

 

[GordonBlue]

Rance was p18, we kept those picks and developed them. Apart from p7 used on Prestia.
Bit misleading re your picks 12, 13 & 19
How many picks were traded out ? ie to GWS. You can't trade them out then claim you never had the picks

So by your theory, your next most important player was pick 6.

Only pick 19 was trading down from Pick 7 with two other players. But if you want to play that game, we can't refer to picks 8, 12 and 19 we had two years ago as we traded for them.

Either way, Richmond relied on top pick to win the flag and thinking otherwise is delusional

 

[GordonBlue]

So by your theory, your next most important player was pick 6.

Only pick 19 was trading down from Pick 7 with two other players. But if you want to play that game, we can't refer to picks 8, 12 and 19 we had two years ago as we traded for them.

Either way, Richmond relied on top pick to win the flag and thinking otherwise is delusional

Also to add to it:

Since Yarran was picked up with pick 6 in the 2008 draft, our earliest picks have been;

CARLTON
2009- 12
2010- 18
2011- 22
2012- 11
2013- 13
2014- 19

Then SOS took over

In the same period, Richmond had:

RICHMOND
2009- 3, 19
2010- 6
2011- 15
2012- 9
2013- 12
2014- 12

So that is:

2009- +9 Richmond and pick 19
2010- +12 Richmond
2011- +7 Richmond
2012- +2 Richmond
2013- +1 Richmond
2014- +5 Richmond

Then the SOS period came.

THE_GUN is load with crap

 

[tigerwill]

So by your theory, your next most important player was pick 6.

Only pick 19 was trading down from Pick 7 with two other players. But if you want to play that game, we can't refer to picks 8, 12 and 19 we had two years ago as we traded for them.

Either way, Richmond relied on top pick to win the flag and thinking otherwise is delusional

What theory?
Never said anything about our top picks not being instrumental to us winning the flag. They played well. But that's not the be all and end all. Quite a few of the later picks played exceptionally well.

However it was to refute your claim as to having minimal top picks. I said you can't trade them out and then say you never had them to start with. A fairly simple concept. What you do with them is another thing.

 

[tigerwill]

Also to add to it:

Since Yarran was picked up with pick 6 in the 2008 draft, our earliest picks have been;

CARLTON
2009- 12
2010- 18
2011- 22
2012- 11
2013- 13
2014- 19

Then SOS took over

In the same period, Richmond had:

RICHMOND
2009- 3, 19
2010- 6
2011- 15
2012- 9
2013- 12
2014- 12

So that is:

2009- +9 Richmond and pick 19
2010- +12 Richmond
2011- +7 Richmond
2012- +2 Richmond
2013- +1 Richmond
2014- +5 Richmond

Then the SOS period came.

THE_GUN is load with crap

Funny how when you selectively pick and choose what year you start with.

Noticeable you didn't have the years when you selected Kreuzer p1, Murphy p1 or Gibbs p1

Your fellow poster mentioned p2 (Cotchin from Kreuzers draft) so don't be disingenuous and neglect to mention them. They were all on your list and still playing this year so add them to the mix. Slightly screws the numbers.
(2007 traded JKennedy/p3 out during that time for Judd)

 

[THE_GUN]

Your best players are picks 2, 3, 8 amd whatever pick Rance is.

The year before Pick 1 was your other best 5.

Let's not pretend your top picks didn't take you to a flag.

Also with a good recuiter, top picks are essential. The last two years Carlton's first round picks have been vital. Carlton only had pick 6 last year though. It's not enough time to judge if it will be successful.

Previous to that Carlton had pick 12 as the highest, pick 13 the year before, pick 19 before. So they didn't have a monopoly on top picks.

Rance was pick #18

The picks that you refer to that have taken us to a flag
#2 - Trent Cotchin (#1 M.Kreuzer is still on your list)
#3 - Dustin Martin (#12 Carlton selected Lucas )
#13 - Jack Riewoldt (Carlton had #1 Bryce Gibbs ,#17 Shaun Hampson , #19 Shaun Grigg)

Its very convenient that you dont include Carlton's best players who also include another #1 Marc Murphy

Perhaps you might be well served to have a good look through the richmond premiership team and see where
Butler,Castagna,Grimes,Astbury,Townsend,Houli,Grigg,Nankervis,Caddy,Lambert,McIntosh,Broad,Edwards just to name a few were picked up

Just because SOS is gutting the list entirely doesnt mean its all improvment, He is just churning over players and a player he selects at say #56 doesnt mean this player will be any good. Like i said before if 2020 comes and Carlton have not made finals then SOS has been a complete failure

 

[tigerwill]

Priority pick 18. And yet it's Richmond fans who accuse us of being propped up by the AFL.

Yeah we're the only club to get a PP.
Fancy that, the AFL propped us up 10 years ago giving us PP 18! Maybe it was the afl who made those rules. Surprisingly enough.
At least that's one we got right among a plethora of misses. And made the most of it. At least we don't rely of other clubs largesse.
No accusation at all. It's a fact.

 

[THE_GUN]

1st round picks give you the core talent to win a flag, late picks and rookies help as role players. Only the Swans have bucked this trend (Geelong arguable but they got very lucky with F/S selections). Don't forget that of Richmonds big 4 (Martin/Cotchin/Rance/Riewoldt) two were top 5 picks and the other two 10-20.

But from a team of 22 players you have just 2-3 players from a top 10 selection ? Tell me which team wouldnt atleast have that

 

[BPikkers]

I keep hearing about how great SOS the saviour is but all I can see is a team that is still languishing bottom of the ladder picking up more and more early picks. If the blues don’t play finals in the next year or two, questions will be asked about the coach, development or the quality of the recruits. I keep hearing about all these guns but there’s only 2 or 3 players in the club who I would take.

 

[Groin guru]

Any post that isn't about Bennon from now on is getting reported! Enough is enough.

 

[branedotorg]

Any post that isn't about Bennon from now on is getting reported! Enough is enough.

any one sniffing around? WAFL SANFL VFL?

 

[BPikkers]

Any post that isn't about Bennon from now on is getting reported! Enough is enough.

Who?