and all should play VFL.... it will be interesting to see if Knights and Grant are ont he same page or if Knights is as one sided and selfish as we all think he is....
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VFL Game Day Bendigo 2010
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and all should play VFL.... it will be interesting to see if Knights and Grant are ont he same page or if Knights is as one sided and selfish as we all think he is....
With Fletcher, Winderlich, Ryder, Houli all available to return this week, there will be sufficient changes.
Bendigo will get Quinn, Houli and Neagle back this week.... fingers crossed it is enough to push the Hawks in the elim final...
EFC injuries have come at a really bad time...
EFC injuries have come at a really bad time...
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For those who can not make it, a radio broadcast of this match will be on the VFL Website
OR...
You can also listen to the Box Hill Hawks official media partner 3WBC broadcast the game, live from 1pm on Sunday.
IF your in Melbourne's Inner suburbs, tune into 94.1 FM
Elsewhere, two streams to choose from are...
Stream 1: http://srv1.mel.apstream.net/3wbc_relay
or
Stream 2: http://www.techtalkradio.com.au/ttr3stream.asx
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Hi guys, just got back from Box Hill.. Really tough game for the young Bombers side that came up against a vastly experienced and bigger Box Hill outfit..
The first quarter saw Box Hill get out to a 4 goal lead after young Michael Still kicked the first goal of the game courtesy of a great contested mark. Jay Neagle was presenting well, and saw him have a hand in three of our 5 first quarter goals. Bachar Houli was also very prominent in and under the packs. His ball use is exceptional and was a real standout amongst all the players on the ground. One down side to the quarter was Jason Cloke going down with injury and effectively leaving us a man down for the rest of the game..
The second quarter saw a complete turnaround from the early contested game with Box Hill blowing the game right open with a 6.3 to 0.2 second quarter. Shinners was good down back, whilst Tom Bellchambers was trying hard against experienced veteran Robbie Campbell. Bendigo wasted so many chances from this point forward, with us having all the play in the early parts of the quarter but just could not hit the scoreboard.
In the third quarter Bendigo was trying to regain some respect with a 3 goal to 4 quarter but could not make inroads into the deficit that was beginning to hit blowout proportions. Michael Still was beginning to exert some influence but could not hit the score board, Jarrod Atkinson was also wasteful in this third term, kicking a combined 1.5 for the term. Christian Bock showed some promising signs playing forward whilst his skills just did not seem to match the endeavour.
The fourth quarter saw a procession play out with Bendigo kicking some early goals courtesy of Bachar Houli, Pierce Liddle and Stephen Stroobants. The final 10 minutes saw Box Hill pile on 5 goals that saw the margin finally end up at the 65 - point margin.
For mine my best players would of been:
Tom Bellchambers, Bachar Houli, Trent Shinners, Jay Neagle.
Now for the player reviews:
Tyson Slattery: Tyson was solid down back, was opposed to young Jordan Lisle who got on top of him when the Box Hill midfield got hold of the ball first. He used the ball relatively well when he got it and was very good as the third man up when he got across to help fellow Defender Trent Shinners. Looked like he copped a whack of some sort in the third quarter that winded him quite severely and followed that up with incurring some sort of left leg/ankle/foot injury in the last.
Jarrod Atkinson: Jarrod was same old Jarrod. Got a lot of it, but turned it over a lot, took the game on but burnt his team mates a few times. Kicked a nice goal on the run that just snuck through, whilst he would of kicked 1.3 for the afternoon. I think we may have seen Jarrod play his last game as an Essendon listed player.
Bachar Houli: Bachar was good and easily one of our best in the early parts when the match was still in the balance. Was solid throughout the matc. He used the ball well apart from one out on the full when he was knocked, kicked a nice long goal after roving a Tom Bellchambers centre bounce tap, taking a couple of bounces and kicking truly from 45m.
Michael Still: Michael was really good in the early parts of the game, took a towering contested mark to set the game off and was consistently leading up the ground. Did not lead under the ball for the most parts today and when in hand, used it really well in general play. Took a couple of other really strong contested marks, so definitely something to work with.
Jay Neagle: Jay was really, really good. Did not get a lot of it, but gee he certainly used it well and made things happen. As mentioned, he set up three of our opening 5 first quarter goals and kicked one himself (in the second, I think). He presented well, leading up across half forward and up to the wing.. One thing that frusterated me a little bit, was he went searching for the ball, often leaving Bendigo with no one to kick it too when we got hold of it. He took a couple of really good strong contested marks on the lead in front of the grandstand. Be interesting to see how he fares next year.
Kyle Reimers: Did Not Play
Michael Quinn: The irishman really frusterates me, turns it over at the most inconvenient times and gave away a hell of free kicks. He gave away 3 free kicks, that directly resulted in Box Hill goals, he tries to act tougher than he actually is. I think a decision is going to have to be made on the future of this Irish experiment.
Tom Bellchambers: Was easily one of, if not our best player today. Worked hard around the ground, and was moved forward in the second half to provide us with an option up front. Something we have lacked mostly all season. His ruckwork was ok but I feel he was mostly soundly beaten by the experienced Robert Campbell. He did some nice tap work against the young less inexperienced Box Hill ruck (name unknown).
Christian Bock: Bocky was so - so. Took a couple of nice grabs, used it ok, kicked a couple of behinds though. One thing that keeps impressing me with young Bock, is his second efforts, was always willing to scrap with the small guys for the ball, laid some good tackles. I think he is still a fair way off, but certainly something to work with.. Interesting to note that Nathan Bock was at the game today, spoke to him briefly and congratulated him on "coming out and saying that Gold Coast had offered you a contract that you had taken", looks like he needs some support behind all the isolation Adelaide have given him sicnce the revelation rocked the football world.
Some of the Bendigo guys were also pretty impressive. Michael James was solid for the most parts of the game, took some contested marks and worked hard both ways.
Ben Duscher was pretty quiet, didn't notice him getting a tag at all, just seemed like he was struggling for the first three quarters before coming into it in the last. He did some nice things throughout but was not a true standout like he has been this season. Hayden Skipworth and Paul Scanlon both were solid all day without being outstanding, proving their bigger bodies worth..
Also saw Gary Ayres (Port Melbourne Borough Coach) at the game, also spoke to him for a little bit and said "there are a couple of guys that are being looked at for the upcoming draft" certainly woke up when I said that. Said that Callum Sinclair has all the tools to become a solid player, just needs a bit more personal coaching he said. Another very funny man I saw at the game was commedian Peter Rowsethron, a very funny man who I had the pleasure of meeting, is such a funny guy in person, a lot funnier than watching him on TV.
Any ways guys, thats the wrap for the season now guys, I am preparing a season review that I will post at a later date, maybe with details of the Nick Carter medal night that I am hopefully going to be attending on Friday September 17th, 2010.
From VFL.com.au
Any ways, we really struggled against the bigger bodied Box Hill team that had something like 17 Hawthorn listed players in it compared to the 6 in the Bendigo team. Our ill - discipline really showed through again with several silly free kicks giving easy shots on goal to Box Hill. Some of the umpiring was just pathetic, I even thought to myself 'how can that be a free kick', even if it was to Bendigo, that is how bad it was.. Any wasy, result is there, nothing we can do about it now.
Any questions feel free to ask.
Thanks guys
HFF_07
The first quarter saw Box Hill get out to a 4 goal lead after young Michael Still kicked the first goal of the game courtesy of a great contested mark. Jay Neagle was presenting well, and saw him have a hand in three of our 5 first quarter goals. Bachar Houli was also very prominent in and under the packs. His ball use is exceptional and was a real standout amongst all the players on the ground. One down side to the quarter was Jason Cloke going down with injury and effectively leaving us a man down for the rest of the game..
The second quarter saw a complete turnaround from the early contested game with Box Hill blowing the game right open with a 6.3 to 0.2 second quarter. Shinners was good down back, whilst Tom Bellchambers was trying hard against experienced veteran Robbie Campbell. Bendigo wasted so many chances from this point forward, with us having all the play in the early parts of the quarter but just could not hit the scoreboard.
In the third quarter Bendigo was trying to regain some respect with a 3 goal to 4 quarter but could not make inroads into the deficit that was beginning to hit blowout proportions. Michael Still was beginning to exert some influence but could not hit the score board, Jarrod Atkinson was also wasteful in this third term, kicking a combined 1.5 for the term. Christian Bock showed some promising signs playing forward whilst his skills just did not seem to match the endeavour.
The fourth quarter saw a procession play out with Bendigo kicking some early goals courtesy of Bachar Houli, Pierce Liddle and Stephen Stroobants. The final 10 minutes saw Box Hill pile on 5 goals that saw the margin finally end up at the 65 - point margin.
For mine my best players would of been:
Tom Bellchambers, Bachar Houli, Trent Shinners, Jay Neagle.
Now for the player reviews:
Tyson Slattery: Tyson was solid down back, was opposed to young Jordan Lisle who got on top of him when the Box Hill midfield got hold of the ball first. He used the ball relatively well when he got it and was very good as the third man up when he got across to help fellow Defender Trent Shinners. Looked like he copped a whack of some sort in the third quarter that winded him quite severely and followed that up with incurring some sort of left leg/ankle/foot injury in the last.
Jarrod Atkinson: Jarrod was same old Jarrod. Got a lot of it, but turned it over a lot, took the game on but burnt his team mates a few times. Kicked a nice goal on the run that just snuck through, whilst he would of kicked 1.3 for the afternoon. I think we may have seen Jarrod play his last game as an Essendon listed player.
Bachar Houli: Bachar was good and easily one of our best in the early parts when the match was still in the balance. Was solid throughout the matc. He used the ball well apart from one out on the full when he was knocked, kicked a nice long goal after roving a Tom Bellchambers centre bounce tap, taking a couple of bounces and kicking truly from 45m.
Michael Still: Michael was really good in the early parts of the game, took a towering contested mark to set the game off and was consistently leading up the ground. Did not lead under the ball for the most parts today and when in hand, used it really well in general play. Took a couple of other really strong contested marks, so definitely something to work with.
Jay Neagle: Jay was really, really good. Did not get a lot of it, but gee he certainly used it well and made things happen. As mentioned, he set up three of our opening 5 first quarter goals and kicked one himself (in the second, I think). He presented well, leading up across half forward and up to the wing.. One thing that frusterated me a little bit, was he went searching for the ball, often leaving Bendigo with no one to kick it too when we got hold of it. He took a couple of really good strong contested marks on the lead in front of the grandstand. Be interesting to see how he fares next year.
Kyle Reimers: Did Not Play
Michael Quinn: The irishman really frusterates me, turns it over at the most inconvenient times and gave away a hell of free kicks. He gave away 3 free kicks, that directly resulted in Box Hill goals, he tries to act tougher than he actually is. I think a decision is going to have to be made on the future of this Irish experiment.
Tom Bellchambers: Was easily one of, if not our best player today. Worked hard around the ground, and was moved forward in the second half to provide us with an option up front. Something we have lacked mostly all season. His ruckwork was ok but I feel he was mostly soundly beaten by the experienced Robert Campbell. He did some nice tap work against the young less inexperienced Box Hill ruck (name unknown).
Christian Bock: Bocky was so - so. Took a couple of nice grabs, used it ok, kicked a couple of behinds though. One thing that keeps impressing me with young Bock, is his second efforts, was always willing to scrap with the small guys for the ball, laid some good tackles. I think he is still a fair way off, but certainly something to work with.. Interesting to note that Nathan Bock was at the game today, spoke to him briefly and congratulated him on "coming out and saying that Gold Coast had offered you a contract that you had taken", looks like he needs some support behind all the isolation Adelaide have given him sicnce the revelation rocked the football world.
Some of the Bendigo guys were also pretty impressive. Michael James was solid for the most parts of the game, took some contested marks and worked hard both ways.
Ben Duscher was pretty quiet, didn't notice him getting a tag at all, just seemed like he was struggling for the first three quarters before coming into it in the last. He did some nice things throughout but was not a true standout like he has been this season. Hayden Skipworth and Paul Scanlon both were solid all day without being outstanding, proving their bigger bodies worth..
Also saw Gary Ayres (Port Melbourne Borough Coach) at the game, also spoke to him for a little bit and said "there are a couple of guys that are being looked at for the upcoming draft" certainly woke up when I said that. Said that Callum Sinclair has all the tools to become a solid player, just needs a bit more personal coaching he said. Another very funny man I saw at the game was commedian Peter Rowsethron, a very funny man who I had the pleasure of meeting, is such a funny guy in person, a lot funnier than watching him on TV.
Any ways guys, thats the wrap for the season now guys, I am preparing a season review that I will post at a later date, maybe with details of the Nick Carter medal night that I am hopefully going to be attending on Friday September 17th, 2010.
From VFL.com.au
Any ways, we really struggled against the bigger bodied Box Hill team that had something like 17 Hawthorn listed players in it compared to the 6 in the Bendigo team. Our ill - discipline really showed through again with several silly free kicks giving easy shots on goal to Box Hill. Some of the umpiring was just pathetic, I even thought to myself 'how can that be a free kick', even if it was to Bendigo, that is how bad it was.. Any wasy, result is there, nothing we can do about it now.
Any questions feel free to ask.
Thanks guys
HFF_07
eth-dog
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thanks for the report. Hate losing to Box Hill.
I got down to the game today and all in all was a good day to go down and watch. Some of the boys had one eye on tonight/tomorrow (Bellchambers) as they were caught having a chat on the fence before the start of the 3rd term. The old granny up on the balcony had a bloody high expectation of her Box Hill boys, calling them every disgraceful word under the sun after their wasteful first term.
I was impressed with Tyson Slattery's work in the contest. Don't think he was beaten too many times all day. Some moron was giving Tyson a serve from behind the fence as Lisle walked in to kick a goal late in the game, which I guess is typical from some of the scumbags that standout alot more in smaller crowds. I thought he was one of our best today.
Christian Bock is in trouble isn't he? He tries hard, no question about that, he gets around the ground easy enough and his speed for his height is decent. But he has no idea how to play football is my thought. Good to see his brother Nathan there for a bit of encouragement, but his handball off the ground to the Hawks player in the box that gifted them a goal in the first term was horrible, and his short stab to a Hawks player ten metres in front of him from a mark on 50 was incredibly poor. A lot would need to change from now to two years time to make a career.
I really don't know how Quinn gets in the bests. To me he ran around exactly like a headless chook. His arms were flapping around slapping people as he went with no real endeavour to actually hit his man with his shoulders. Went for a big late flying bump on Robbie Campbell as he was clearing from defence, which if he actually made contact might have seen Quinny get put in his place to be fair. Very late, very ambitious, very uncalled for. He then made faces at the goal umpire late in the 4th as the goal umpire was signalling the goal. Just a weird character. I wouldn't persist with him.
Houli was good, one passage of play where he got the tap from the centre bounce, ran into 50 and kicked true was proof of his class.
Neagle didn't do much, took some good marks, but looked tired. Hoping he has a big pre-season. I have high hopes for the bloke.
Still was fantastic. Great hands, needs to work on his field kicking. Covers a lot of ground providing lead after lead. Impressive player.
Atkinson is gone for mine. Doesn't use it well enough. Did some good things, but all in all, solid VFL player standard.
I was impressed with Tyson Slattery's work in the contest. Don't think he was beaten too many times all day. Some moron was giving Tyson a serve from behind the fence as Lisle walked in to kick a goal late in the game, which I guess is typical from some of the scumbags that standout alot more in smaller crowds. I thought he was one of our best today.
Christian Bock is in trouble isn't he? He tries hard, no question about that, he gets around the ground easy enough and his speed for his height is decent. But he has no idea how to play football is my thought. Good to see his brother Nathan there for a bit of encouragement, but his handball off the ground to the Hawks player in the box that gifted them a goal in the first term was horrible, and his short stab to a Hawks player ten metres in front of him from a mark on 50 was incredibly poor. A lot would need to change from now to two years time to make a career.
I really don't know how Quinn gets in the bests. To me he ran around exactly like a headless chook. His arms were flapping around slapping people as he went with no real endeavour to actually hit his man with his shoulders. Went for a big late flying bump on Robbie Campbell as he was clearing from defence, which if he actually made contact might have seen Quinny get put in his place to be fair. Very late, very ambitious, very uncalled for. He then made faces at the goal umpire late in the 4th as the goal umpire was signalling the goal. Just a weird character. I wouldn't persist with him.
Houli was good, one passage of play where he got the tap from the centre bounce, ran into 50 and kicked true was proof of his class.
Neagle didn't do much, took some good marks, but looked tired. Hoping he has a big pre-season. I have high hopes for the bloke.
Still was fantastic. Great hands, needs to work on his field kicking. Covers a lot of ground providing lead after lead. Impressive player.
Atkinson is gone for mine. Doesn't use it well enough. Did some good things, but all in all, solid VFL player standard.
lemon chicken
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Didnt see all the match but saw most of the first 3 qtrs.
Houli hardly wasted a disposal, didnt have huge numbers but would have been over 20 but 90% were absolute quality. The goal via Bellcahmbers tap was the best piece of play by any Essendon player in weeks. Disgrace if we lose the only guy on the list who can kick.
Bellchambers was really good in the centre square, jumped over his opponent all day.
Still looks a natural FF rather than the floating HF he has been playing most of the season. Strong hands when the ball is in front of him, good lead, excellent and confident set shot even throws the grass up Lloyd style. Would offload Neagle and develop Still instead.
Neagle, trade.
Quinn should be erased from all club records.
The ground is a disgrace for a finals venue. They had rollers on the mud pit as the players were warming up on the ground.
Only at the VFL.
Houli hardly wasted a disposal, didnt have huge numbers but would have been over 20 but 90% were absolute quality. The goal via Bellcahmbers tap was the best piece of play by any Essendon player in weeks. Disgrace if we lose the only guy on the list who can kick.
Bellchambers was really good in the centre square, jumped over his opponent all day.
Still looks a natural FF rather than the floating HF he has been playing most of the season. Strong hands when the ball is in front of him, good lead, excellent and confident set shot even throws the grass up Lloyd style. Would offload Neagle and develop Still instead.
Neagle, trade.
Quinn should be erased from all club records.
The ground is a disgrace for a finals venue. They had rollers on the mud pit as the players were warming up on the ground.
Only at the VFL.
Agree with HFF on a lot of it.
Bachar really good early, faded late. Shinners, Slattery_36 (bar going off, possibly winded, in the 2nd??), and Bellie our best. Duscher quiet but he did punch on with Rick Ladson which earnt him some respect. #6 (I believe Liddle) has real pace & did a few nice run-downs, Scanlon solid enough but not polished.
Really looked like they were undermanned across the middle. No doubt Jetta, Myers, Crameri + Muscles would have meant a different looking side.
Bock took a few OK grabs but burnt the ball too much.
Most of the day our smallest forward was Still. Bock/Bellie through there all day + Neagle a bit further up & out... ie no crumbing, no pressure, BHH just blocked the urn of the big fellas & took the easy marks 3rd up.
Neagle I'd single out as being the real shining light in the 2nd half. Set up Still & Bellie, got reward for his efforts which I think is important for him, because he doesn't have many efforts in his tank. Certainly the best VFL game I've seen him play.
Bachar really good early, faded late. Shinners, Slattery_36 (bar going off, possibly winded, in the 2nd??), and Bellie our best. Duscher quiet but he did punch on with Rick Ladson which earnt him some respect. #6 (I believe Liddle) has real pace & did a few nice run-downs, Scanlon solid enough but not polished.
Really looked like they were undermanned across the middle. No doubt Jetta, Myers, Crameri + Muscles would have meant a different looking side.
Bock took a few OK grabs but burnt the ball too much.
Most of the day our smallest forward was Still. Bock/Bellie through there all day + Neagle a bit further up & out... ie no crumbing, no pressure, BHH just blocked the urn of the big fellas & took the easy marks 3rd up.
Neagle I'd single out as being the real shining light in the 2nd half. Set up Still & Bellie, got reward for his efforts which I think is important for him, because he doesn't have many efforts in his tank. Certainly the best VFL game I've seen him play.
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Tricky question. I am currently writing a review of the season and currently have the top 6 (in no particular finishing order) as: Jason Cloke, Tyson Slattery, Hayden Skipworth, Bachar Houli and Trent Shinners.
Didnt see all the match but saw most of the first 3 qtrs.
Houli hardly wasted a disposal, didnt have huge numbers but would have been over 20 but 90% were absolute quality. The goal via Bellcahmbers tap was the best piece of play by any Essendon player in weeks. Disgrace if we lose the only guy on the list who can kick.
Bellchambers was really good in the centre square, jumped over his opponent all day.
Still looks a natural FF rather than the floating HF he has been playing most of the season. Strong hands when the ball is in front of him, good lead, excellent and confident set shot even throws the grass up Lloyd style. Would offload Neagle and develop Still instead.
Neagle, trade.
Quinn should be erased from all club records.
The ground is a disgrace for a finals venue. They had rollers on the mud pit as the players were warming up on the ground.
Only at the VFL.
Lemon Chicken
I thought Bellchambers did his best work around the ground, hardly got a hand on the ball in a lot of centre square contests bar that one in focus.. He took quite a few good marks around the ground and certainly used it well for a guy his size, certainly something to work with here.
Still impressed me with his marking took 2 - 3 really strong contested marking on the lead and one on one, a bright future perhaps
I think I like him at CHF, kicking is still an issue, converts at about 50% (i would say), but a bit of technical training from one Matthew Lloyd and we would be looking at a star in the making perhaps.Quinn was a disgrace today, as mentioned, he cost us dearly with his stupid insignificant free kicks (Tyson Slattery was also guilty of this, have seen this happen a few times in recent weeks).
You agree
Jokes buddy
This has been our biggest problem all year Slattery, we have had no smalls that have been crumbing the long balls into Neagle/Cloke/Carlisle/Still and co..
We were way undermanned in the midfield with our ounly real midfield rotations (starting centre square midfielders) consisting of Skipworth, Scanlon, James, Dusecher and Houli with stints from some of the kids every now and again..
We struggled to match them all over the park with there man on man zone they were playing, we struggled to get the ball out of the back half all day..
Mind you 36 scoring shots to 21 and we only lost by 65 points, good effort from Bendigo.. LOL.
No doubt we missed some more midfield rotations, whilst they are a team on the march
Boys against men, sums it up really.
George Washington
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That's an oxymoron you realise?
Was fun having a day out at a ground that had changed a bit since my last visit...that new pavillion looks fantastic.
Just a quick comment on Cloke - he actually tore his groin muscle (was speaking to the family after the match on my way out).
Just a quick comment on Cloke - he actually tore his groin muscle (was speaking to the family after the match on my way out).
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HFF
Did J.NeAgle PLAY ON C.Pederson ?
Did J.NeAgle PLAY ON C.Pederson ?
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For short periods, Neagle, after a dangerous first quarter went kick hunting and was left to his own accord without actually being dangerous..
Saw Pederson on the wing at one stage (in play), whilst he also had a shot or two on goal..
