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waas only amatter of time ringo. look at who is actually in and around these young developing players. not enough money in the pathways system to entice the calibre of coaching required when APS schools and local clubs down here are paying their coaches a lot more. across the two coactes regions down here near the club i follow there are coaches who havent even handled their own teams anywhere yet are expected to be at a rather important level. a lot of parents are beginning to comment which they should be given there fees im told now go to afl house first rather than the talent leageu clubs themselves.

not these coaches fault i must add as their only applying for and getting appointments and invest there own money to do the level 2 and level 3 etc the industry now wants but acreditation dont always mean ready for the next level.
 

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Oh here we go again 🙄 😢😢😢
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following this page and their has been many reference to sandhurst strath and golden square when it comes to pioneers ooportunity etc. happens down my way too depending on which clubs edfl people are from when the land at calder all of a sudden theres an obvious bias towards opportunity. goes back to resources i guess if these talent region clubs dont have the ability to attract and compensate actual talent minded heads who have no alterior motives or interests.
 
It seems like the afl are not interested in developing country footballers unless they are elite talent if the vfl pathways are brought in.

I agree that the travel burden is too much, but what are their plans? Under 23 games between bendigo, Ballarat gv oandm, hampden and Gippsland every month?

This really pushes the aps program to the forefront as the primary pathway, we'll see school games telecast, ala college sport. Andrew Dillon an aps product is really showing he's true colours
 
The AFL have tried to engineer things towards the US system slowly but surely since back in Gill's days and they are well on track with their plans.

The end result is there will be no senior grassroots football (or senior clubs) outside of the elite system and playing football ends for most of us when the AFL or VFL dream has passed us by. The AFL only has an interest in junior football in order to maintain pathways to the elite level.

The AFL would prefer that every adult male over 21 attends AFL matches regularly and that we spend our money with them on tickets, memberships, food, drink and merchandise, instead of spending that money with local football (which of course benefits the local economy).

They have shown increasing levels of disinterest in senior grassroots football since they assumed control of the VMFL and VCFL. The AFL has also tried to gain control of all the leagues around the state via regional hubs to ensure that its mantra gets rolled out but they haven't been entirely successful with that.

Country football clubs are the lifeblood of communities and in some instances, an active football-netball club is what is keeping a town going (no club = no grog, drink and food purchases = the supermarket and pub close = no work in town = population drift).

The Auskick figures are up and up and they keep saying this loudly but the number of senior male footballers would have been dropping since 2020 and is going to drop significantly over the next decade as clubs merge and fold.

Will the AFL care? It doesn't seem so judging by its inactivity in getting involved in the issues surrounding the grassroots game. A case in point is Gippsland football, which is involved in a bunfight about divisionalisation and a number of leagues are getting involved in a power struggle. AFL Victoria's response? "We will let things happen organically and take their course", surely said while sitting on their hands.
 
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The AFL have tried to engineer things towards the US system slowly but surely since back in Gill's days and they are well on track with their plans.

The end result is there will be no senior grassroots football (or senior clubs) outside of the elite system and playing football ends for most of us when the AFL or VFL dream has passed us by. The AFL only has an interest in junior football in order to maintain pathways to the elite level.

The AFL would prefer that every adult male over 21 attends AFL matches regularly and that we spend our money with them on tickets, memberships, food, drink and merchandise, instead of spending that money with local football (which of course benefits the local economy).

They have shown increasing levels of disinterest in senior grassroots football since they assumed control of the VMFL and VCFL. The AFL has also tried to gain control of all the leagues around the state via regional hubs to ensure that its mantra gets rolled out but they haven't been entirely successful with that.

Country football clubs are the lifeblood of communities and in some instances, an active football-netball club is what is keeping a town going (no club = no grog, drink and food purchases = the supermarket and pub close = no work in town = population drift).

The Auskick figures are up and up and they keep saying this loudly but the number of senior male footballers would have been dropping since 2020 and is going to drop significantly over the next decade as clubs merge and fold.

Will the AFL care? It doesn't seem so judging by its inactivity in getting involved in the issues surrounding the grassroots game. A case in point is Gippsland football, which is involved in a bunfight about divisionalisation and a number of leagues are getting involved in a power struggle. AFL Victoria's response? "We will let things happen organically and take their course", surely said while sitting on their hands.
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Congrats on the best big footy post in a long time. While 99.9% of people who roam this site it is important it will be like water off a ducks back to these driving the bus. How can country footy get its message through to the AFL? Perhaps a demonstration outside the MCG on grand final day might open some eyes. PS The print and electronic media wont give country footy any time they dont want to bite the hand that feeds them.
 
With the way is going and the afl taking over Aussie rules, I wonder how long before we see a world series cricket like rival setup against the establishment. All they'd need is a non afl league (hello roar) TV rights which they'd buy cheap and pay guys like dusty 3 mill a year and allow the bump and tackle and it would out rate any afl game pretty quick
 
The only issue is that the AFL has access to all the main stadia in Australia. When John Elliott and others came up with a national league concept some time around 1984, the VFL swiftly moved to create licence agreements between the clubs and the VFL, effectively tying the club names and images to the VFL to head off any "rebel" competitions succeeding, hence why we have never had an equivalent of rugby league's Super League.

These agreements are still in effect today in a similar form I believe and at the time, the VFL made deals with the venues that they would not hire their venues to any rebel national leagues (which applied to new venues down the track), which means that a WSF concept would have to aim very low on the venues and the crowds they'd hope to get and would be heavily reliant on securing lucrative media rights.
 
MortlockWatcher said:
The AFL have tried to engineer things towards the US system slowly but surely since back in Gill's days and they are well on track with their plans.

The end result is there will be no senior grassroots football (or senior clubs) outside of the elite system and playing football ends for most of us when the AFL or VFL dream has passed us by. The AFL only has an interest in junior football in order to maintain pathways to the elite level.

The AFL would prefer that every adult male over 21 attends AFL matches regularly and that we spend our money with them on tickets, memberships, food, drink and merchandise, instead of spending that money with local football (which of course benefits the local economy).

They have shown increasing levels of disinterest in senior grassroots football since they assumed control of the VMFL and VCFL. The AFL has also tried to gain control of all the leagues around the state via regional hubs to ensure that its mantra gets rolled out but they haven't been entirely successful with that.

Country football clubs are the lifeblood of communities and in some instances, an active football-netball club is what is keeping a town going (no club = no grog, drink and food purchases = the supermarket and pub close = no work in town = population drift).

The Auskick figures are up and up and they keep saying this loudly but the number of senior male footballers would have been dropping since 2020 and is going to drop significantly over the next decade as clubs merge and fold.

Will the AFL care? It doesn't seem so judging by its inactivity in getting involved in the issues surrounding the grassroots game. A case in point is Gippsland football, which is involved in a bunfight about divisionalisation and a number of leagues are getting involved in a power struggle. AFL Victoria's response? "We will let things happen organically and take their course", surely said while sitting on their hands.
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Very well said.
 

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Ben Brown to Castlemaine? Rumour heating up as good friends with Hartley I believe.
 
MortlockWatcher said:
The only issue is that the AFL has access to all the main stadia in Australia. When John Elliott and others came up with a national league concept some time around 1984, the VFL swiftly moved to create licence agreements between the clubs and the VFL, effectively tying the club names and images to the VFL to head off any "rebel" competitions succeeding, hence why we have never had an equivalent of rugby league's Super League.

These agreements are still in effect today in a similar form I believe and at the time, the VFL made deals with the venues that they would not hire their venues to any rebel national leagues (which applied to new venues down the track), which means that a WSF concept would have to aim very low on the venues and the crowds they'd hope to get and would be heavily reliant on securing lucrative media rights.
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Play in picola build some temp grandstands they'd get 15k and good atmosphere for TV
 
MortlockWatcher said:
The AFL have tried to engineer things towards the US system slowly but surely since back in Gill's days and they are well on track with their plans.

The end result is there will be no senior grassroots football (or senior clubs) outside of the elite system and playing football ends for most of us when the AFL or VFL dream has passed us by. The AFL only has an interest in junior football in order to maintain pathways to the elite level.

The AFL would prefer that every adult male over 21 attends AFL matches regularly and that we spend our money with them on tickets, memberships, food, drink and merchandise, instead of spending that money with local football (which of course benefits the local economy).

They have shown increasing levels of disinterest in senior grassroots football since they assumed control of the VMFL and VCFL. The AFL has also tried to gain control of all the leagues around the state via regional hubs to ensure that its mantra gets rolled out but they haven't been entirely successful with that.

Country football clubs are the lifeblood of communities and in some instances, an active football-netball club is what is keeping a town going (no club = no grog, drink and food purchases = the supermarket and pub close = no work in town = population drift).

The Auskick figures are up and up and they keep saying this loudly but the number of senior male footballers would have been dropping since 2020 and is going to drop significantly over the next decade as clubs merge and fold.

Will the AFL care? It doesn't seem so judging by its inactivity in getting involved in the issues surrounding the grassroots game. A case in point is Gippsland football, which is involved in a bunfight about divisionalisation and a number of leagues are getting involved in a power struggle. AFL Victoria's response? "We will let things happen organically and take their course", surely said while sitting on their hands.
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Post of the season 🙌👌👍👏
 
What happens to the next dusty martin? It seems the afl are pushing kids especially from regional Vic to send their kids to board at an aps school to get drafted. They're either lucky enough to get a scholarship or they have to hope their parents can re-mortgage the house to send them away. Dusty had to basically slaughter the best sides in the bfl for the pios to look at bringing him into their system. He wasn't even in school at year 12, but doing an apprenticeship. I really don't like the pathways been set up to play afl are becoming. It is becoming an elitist game
 

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Melton South confirmed to Riddell - do we think Ballarat FL goes even harder at Gisborne now to try and bring them across for 2025
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I think gizzy are happy to win most games by 100 and have no revenue through the gate /bar / canteen


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