Best Captain in the last 10 years.

[Adelaide Hawk]

You guys do realise that none of you would have a clue about this subject, don't you? Unless you have been involved in the inner sanctum of all 16 clubs for the past 10 years, you are not equipped with the information to draw judgements on who may be a better captain than someone else.

Pointless thread.

 

[ShanBoi]

still waiting for that premiership?
Yeah, success as a captain is measured in the success he helps his team get, pretty obvious harley had alot to do with it, no?

So Harley is the best captain because he is a premiership captain? By default doesn't that make voss the ultimate because he lead his team to four consecutive grand finals, and 3 flags??

Is every premiership captain instantly a great of the game? As far as skippers go Harley is very much in the same vein as the vandenbergs and kane johnsons. He might be a great leader around the club but he is FAR from the best player. I'm not saying that he didn't contribute, or that you have to be the best player to be the skipper. Im just saying its not as though he is chris judd winning games off his own boot. Would he still be up there if geelong lost the grannie?

 

[freo1]

ben cousins - spiritual leader. HAHAHA

 

[micky_11]

Quite sure that when it comes to on-field, Carey was one of the best Captains ever. Lifted North countless times. Inspirational, amazing courage and a great team player as well. Commanded the team from CHF and lead the way to victory.

Second would be Voss. Same mold as Carey but was a little worse on all fronts.

Guess after that would be either Hird/Bucks/Ricciuto but honestly Voss and The King were miles ahead of the pack.

Couldnt of put it better myself, Carey by a country mile for the reasons stated above

 

[carmi99]

Can't argue with Tom Harley's record. I know it's only one year, but what a year!!

Over a longer period though, I'd go Ricciuto. The whole Adelaide team seems to lift when he's on the ground like no other captain seems to be able to do.

lmao at Harley being the best captain of the last 10 years....

Hird, Voss, Buckley, and the Roo were easily the 4 best skippers but i would go with Jimi coz he could will himself upon a game like no other.

 

[carmi99]

Couldnt of put it better myself, Carey by a country mile for the reasons stated above

Lets not forget this thread is for the best skipper of the last 10 years. Carey played well in 98,99 and was ok in 2000 after that he did nothing. Also, correct me if im wrong but he was skipper for only 2 or 3 years over the last 10 years? Lets not forget he pretty much ruined your club with his action, not the actions of a great leader or team man.

I would not rate Carey in the top 10 skippers over the last 10 years. If the thread were for the last 15 or 20 years it may be a different story but i have no idea how you can rate someone so highly on what he has done in the last 10 years?

 

[Premiership Quarter]

Clearly Kernahan was the best Captain of his era. He Captained in 1997 which is in the past decade so if we include any Captain thats Captained during this period he is the number 1 by a mile but either way he was clearly the best captain of the previous decade.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Lets not forget this thread is for the best skipper of the last 10 years. Carey played well in 98,99 and was ok in 2000 after that he did nothing. Also, correct me if im wrong but he was skipper for only 2 or 3 years over the last 10 years? Lets not forget he pretty much ruined your club with his action, not the actions of a great leader or team man.

I would not rate Carey in the top 10 skippers over the last 10 years. If the thread were for the last 15 or 20 years it may be a different story but i have no idea how you can rate someone so highly on what he has done in the last 10 years?

i was just about to say that. i dont see how hird isnt winning this hands down. voss is a fair argument but if you compare the amount of games either player would have single handidly won of his own boot then hird would be miles in front... you only have to listen to the speeches of other players at the club and see their faces as hird played his last game to see what he meant to the playing group

 

[carmi99]

Clearly Kernahan was the best Captain of his era. He Captained in 1997 which is in the past decade so if we include any Captain thats Captained during this period he is the number 1 by a mile but either way he was clearly the best captain of the previous decade.

since when is 1997 in the past decade?

 

[micky_11]

Lets not forget this thread is for the best skipper of the last 10 years. Carey played well in 98,99 and was ok in 2000 after that he did nothing. Also, correct me if im wrong but he was skipper for only 2 or 3 years over the last 10 years? Lets not forget he pretty much ruined your club with his action, not the actions of a great leader or team man.

I would not rate Carey in the top 10 skippers over the last 10 years. If the thread were for the last 15 or 20 years it may be a different story but i have no idea how you can rate someone so highly on what he has done in the last 10 years?

Its who was/is the best captain in the last 10 years, Carey was captain in that bracket still, and every thing he achieved as a captain before 1997 still go on his resume as captain at that time. you would be silly in saying that carey was not the best captain let alone in your top 10, thats plain stupid

 

[Ari]

Hird/Voss/Bucks..... again.

 

[carmi99]

Its who was/is the best captain in the last 10 years, Carey was captain in that bracket still, and every thing he achieved as a captain before 1997 still go on his resume as captain at that time. you would be silly in saying that carey was not the best captain let alone in your top 10, thats plain stupid

Ok lets include evrything Carey did going back further than a decade and i will rate him as the 5th best skipper.

Maybe if he didnt dog his teammates and ruin the moral of his club i would have him in the top 3.

 

[Seeds]

Carey was one of the best players who captained, however he would probably have to be one of the worst ever captains. The club got rid of him because the players didn't want to play with him let alone for him for crying out loud and he wasn't exactly a great role model before that indiscretion either and has continued to make mistakes since. Basically hes the Shane Warne of the AFL. How any one could label him as a great captain and leader is just absurd

 

[carmi99]

Carey was one of the best players who captained, however he would probably have to be one of the worst ever captains. The club got rid of him because the players didn't want to play with him let alone for him for crying out loud and he wasn't exactly a great role model before that indiscretion either and has continued to make mistakes since. Basically hes the Shane Warne of the AFL. How any one could label him as a great captain and leader is just absurd

Exactly!

I was called stupid when i said he wouldnt be in the top 10 captains of the decade and even if you include what he did in the mid nineties he is still lucky to be in the top 5 skippers.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

So Harley is the best captain because he is a premiership captain? By default doesn't that make voss the ultimate because he lead his team to four consecutive grand finals, and 3 flags??

Is every premiership captain instantly a great of the game? As far as skippers go Harley is very much in the same vein as the vandenbergs and kane johnsons. He might be a great leader around the club but he is FAR from the best player. I'm not saying that he didn't contribute, or that you have to be the best player to be the skipper. Im just saying its not as though he is chris judd winning games off his own boot. Would he still be up there if geelong lost the grannie?

Your point is irrelevant. Winning games off your own boot doesn't make you the best captain, because it's not something exclusive to being the captain.
I'm not going to say Harley has been the best captain because it wouldn't be the truth, but you cannot categorise him with Kane Johnson or Vandenburg for a perceived notion that he's not a marquee player like Judd or Brown. His leadership has been far stronger than anything Kane Johnson has managed to drunkenly slur at a club B&F night, and unlike Vandenburg, hasn't painted himself as a wannabe strongman. To say that Harley's appointment as captain didn't have a massive bearing on Geelong's 2007 success is to have one's head up ones exit passage.

 

[r_boy]

Ok lets include evrything Carey did going back further than a decade and i will rate him as the 5th best skipper.

Maybe if he didnt dog his teammates and ruin the moral of his club i would have him in the top 3.

Mate if that's all that is bothering you and would only put him top 3 then you have rocks in your head.
You people cry that Carey hurt a club badly so then he shouldn't be included as a great Captain, but really when was on the field as Captain he did more than any other player here mentioned easily.
You can argue whether Carey was a bastard individual all you like, but at least look at the topic of Captaincy with some objectivity.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Good captains don't go around beating the shit out of people in a bar, so i don't know how anyone could consider Voss

was he actually captain then, or was he retired?

 

[Mojo]

Vandernberg!

 

[RandB]

Hird, Voss and Ricciuto.

Yep

 

[ShanBoi]

Your point is irrelevant. Winning games off your own boot doesn't make you the best captain, because it's not something exclusive to being the captain.
I'm not going to say Harley has been the best captain because it wouldn't be the truth, but you cannot categorise him with Kane Johnson or Vandenburg for a perceived notion that he's not a marquee player like Judd or Brown. His leadership has been far stronger than anything Kane Johnson has managed to drunkenly slur at a club B&F night, and unlike Vandenburg, hasn't painted himself as a wannabe strongman. To say that Harley's appointment as captain didn't have a massive bearing on Geelong's 2007 success is to have one's head up ones exit passage.

lol... You just proved my point. I'm sure hawthorn and tigers fans would also venemously defend the appointment of vanders and johnson. Like it or lump it, Harley is cut from the same cloth. A serviceable, but nothing special player, who the team looks up to and the club deems to be the best leader of the pack. The other nuff nuff suggesting that Harley is up there with the best skippers just because he is a premiership captain is just plain stupid.

 

[r_boy]

Carey was one of the best players who captained, however he would probably have to be one of the worst ever captains. The club got rid of him because the players didn't want to play with him let alone for him for crying out loud and he wasn't exactly a great role model before that indiscretion either and has continued to make mistakes since. Basically hes the Shane Warne of the AFL. How any one could label him as a great captain and leader is just absurd

Honestly mate you have not watched enough of Carey. These guys are old enough to have their own sense of what to do/what not to do. It's not like Carey was leading a group of 8 year olds. If you had ever seen a game where Carey would drag North from the depths of despair to win the game you would understand. He would bring the team to a whole new level and everyone would follow his lead. Yes he did some incredible things himself but ask any expert commentator and they will tell you that Carey was one of the best Captains on the football park ever. How anyone could NOT label him as a great leader on the ground is mind-boggling.

 

[blue gunslinger]

Clearly Kernahan was the best Captain of his era. He Captained in 1997 which is in the past decade so if we include any Captain thats Captained during this period he is the number 1 by a mile but either way he was clearly the best captain of the previous decade.

Voice of reason
Sticks was incredible on and off the park.You are not made captain so young and keep the position so long without being special.And that is highlighted more considering where on the field he actually played!

 

[tigertiger]

I think you guys are all forgetting someone...

The smartest footballer in the last decade according to that genius Robert Walls.

yes you guessed it Lance Whitnall, led from the front, apparently showed some real leadership qualities at the health farm too.

 

[Bomber Man]

I've only read the first half of the posts on this thread, but... geez Nth fans, take the blinkers off.

The best captain of the last 10 years could not be a guy that almost single-handedly decimated his club and sooooo disrespected his teammates and vice captain (and so-called best mate). Shouldn't the captain be the absolute role-model for all players and the most outstanding representative of what the club wants??

Carey was a fantastic on-field leader, may well have been a great leader of players off-field as well, but his indiscretions definitely remove any likelihood of a truly great captain standing.

Voss was a great captain of a great team.
Hird was a great captain on and off field.
Paul Kelly was inspirational on-field.

 

[budf23]

Vandernberg!

Seconded, class above the rest