Best Skipper in the League - Richie

[Santoz]

Yes please. Give me a captain who feigns for free kicks 24/7 and is the biggest panzy in the AFL. Campbell brown punches him in the head and he scrambles out of the pack looking for the umpire lol. Tough and uncompromising bloke!

Oh wait, he wasnt captain this year. David Hille was acting captain was he not? How was his record?? lol

Deflection ???

 

[one_twelve112]

Taken for snopes.com - thought it may be relevant

Sometime after the 1993 Academy Awards ceremony, a rumor began making the rounds that the award for 1992's Best Supporting Actress had been mistakenly given to Marisa Tomei rather than the "real" winner, Vanessa Redgrave, because presenter Jack Palance called out the wrong name. (Different versions of the rumor claim that Palance was unable to read the printing on the card, became confused, or was too "drunk" or "stoned" to call out the right name. He then either arbitrarily announced Tomei as the winner or called out her name because it fell last in the list of nominees and thus had not yet scrolled off the teleprompter screen.)

Clearly history has repeated itself. Vandeberg was named captain of the Hawks because his name (starting with a V) was at the bottom of the list of nominees
Myth Busted!

 

[BK Eaglesfan]

Very harsh on the Hawthorn football club IMHO. In fact, I believe West Coast should follow the lead of Hawthorn and select a captain for being a terrific servant, so I intend to start petitioning the club for Chris Judd's immediate removal, to be replaced by Rowan Jones. He's a hell of a nice guy, a one club player, and captaincy would (like Vandenburg) gaurantee him a hold on his tenuous spot for another 22 games.

Well done Hawks

 

[Mitchell Madness]

they would have sacked him and picked up Phil REad in the PSD to fill the void and add some better skills, better clearance work, more aggression and better leadership on top of what Richie does

so instead of getting 6 weeks for a jumper punch, would this "read" guy get 8? after all, more agression

 

[rick James]

so instead of getting 6 weeks for a jumper punch, would this "read" guy get 8? after all, more agression

Actually your fearless leader got 6 for two punches that couldn't even phase Russel Robertson.

go look at the video, he doesn't have any jumper in is hands - can't even get a jumper punch right.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Actually your fearless leader got 6 for two punches that couldn't even phase Russel Robertson.

go look at the video, he doesn't have any jumper in is hands - can't even get a jumper punch right.

i have seen it, one he was holding the jumper, and the other one he pushed him away with his forearm, it wasnt even agressive

 

[rick James]

i have seen it, one he was holding the jumper, and the other one he pushed him away with his forearm, it wasnt even agressive

I agree, it was a p1ssweak decision to suspend him at all.

but the same thing happened to Brad Miller (except Miller at least held on to teh jumper) against West Coast.

 

[Brad Pearce]

Jimmy hird was
Not sure now
Probably Roo (is he still captain?)
or Judd

 

[Brad Pearce]

Just remember mate, the team voted him in.

Clearly their only good player was Spider, why wouldn't they just give it to him...Beyond me, completely. It's ok...They've got Robbie Campbell

Franklin would be in your best 22, as would Williams and Mitchell

 

[rick James]

Franklin would be in your best 22, as would Williams and Mitchell

Mitchell yes, Franklin probably, Williams no

 

[BedlamHawk]

Mitchell yes, Franklin probably, Williams no

Are you serious, Rick? Neitz kicked 68 goals followed closely by Williams with 60. Minus Neitz, Williams >> Melbournes forwardline. That is pure bias that he wouldn't get a game with melbourne as he is one of the best small forwards in the game. Still annoyed when he tore you a new one last year kicking 8.5??

 

[Bartram_Class]

Are you serious, Rick? Neitz kicked 68 goals followed closely by Williams with 60. Minus Neitz, Williams >> Melbournes forwardline. That is pure bias that he wouldn't get a game with melbourne as he is one of the best small forwards in the game. Still annoyed when he tore you a new one last year kicking 8.5??

Mark Williams is a small forward that plays tall, similar to Russell Robertson in a lot of ways.

I seriously doubt he would make our best 22, he would crowd the space for big Neita and Millsy.

 

[HotDog]

What a player.

Tough
Uncompromising
Goal-kicker
Tagger
Silky Skills
Contested Marker

He can do it all, please usher in, the Premiership Captain of 2007.

What a dud, seriously he wouldnt be in the 22 at any other club in the league but somehow gets the captaincy

One of the reasons why hawks relocated to tassie. Out of mind out of sight. Maybe everyone will stop laughing at him and the club.

 

[Bartram_Class]

One of the reasons why hawks relocated to tassie. Out of mind out of sight. Maybe everyone will stop laughing at him and the club.

That picture deserves a caption contest.

 

[rick James]

Are you serious, Rick? Neitz kicked 68 goals followed closely by Williams with 60. Minus Neitz, Williams >> Melbournes forwardline. That is pure bias that he wouldn't get a game with melbourne as he is one of the best small forwards in the game. Still annoyed when he tore you a new one last year kicking 8.5??

You can't jsut look at it that way mate, you need to look at how he'd fit our structure - for a start, he wouldn't be the focal point at Melbourne, ever. never.

He has no defensieve side to his game and unless he's marking and kicking goals, he's next to useless. The only spot he'd be free to takle is Robertson's who imo is a better player than Williams.

Williams is a leading forward, so there's no way he can take a small forward spot.

Look at our forwards apart from Neitz:

Davey - no way
Pickett - once again, no way
Neitz - haha yeah right
Miller - nope, we need that wide ranging CHF target and big body, Williams couldn't fill that properly
Yze/Bruce/Green - this position is used for resting midfielders and back flankers, Williams is neither of those things
Robertson - the only spot Williams would have a chance at, and Robertson is more productive than Williams when healthy.

then we also ahve resting ruckmen going through there, honestly I can't see a spot for Williams in our lineup - it isn't about him not having the skill, it's about there not being a role for him.

 

[And_ROOS]

"Hey Rich, the only thing that's a bigger laugh then your captaincy was my acting career, even Clarko agrees."

 

[Hawkk]

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2006/12/14/1165685824225.html

Vandenberg to lead Hawks, Hodge, Mitchell as deputies

HAWTHORN has retained Richie Vandenberg as captain for 2007, while installing Luke Hodge and Sam Mitchell as joint vice-captains.

While there had been speculation about whether Vandenberg would remain skipper, the Hawks chose to stick with him for 2007, while elevating the youthful Hodge — a deputy vice-captain in 2006 — to the same rank as Mitchell, who was vice-captain this year.

The recommendation for the leadership roles came from both the players and the match committee before it was endorsed by the club board.

The Hawks announced that Vandenberg would remain skipper for next year at the club's annual meeting last night, the first presided over by president Jeff Kennett, who addressed the members at Hawthorn Town Hall. Vandenberg and coach Alastair Clarkson also spoke.

The Hawks confirmed their significantly better financial performance in 2006 compared with 2005, with a cash profit of $1.178 million, a figure that was reduced to a "paper" profit of $308,632 after attributing $870,685 to a write-off from Glenferrie Oval, the base they vacated this year. The club made just over $90,000 in 2005.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

"Hey Rich, the only thing that's a bigger laugh then your captaincy was Geelongs season, even Clarko agrees."

 

[sgbn77]

You can't jsut look at it that way mate, you need to look at how he'd fit our structure - for a start, he wouldn't be the focal point at Melbourne, ever. never.

He has no defensieve side to his game and unless he's marking and kicking goals, he's next to useless. The only spot he'd be free to takle is Robertson's who imo is a better player than Williams.

Williams is a leading forward, so there's no way he can take a small forward spot.

Look at our forwards apart from Neitz:

Davey - no way
Pickett - once again, no way
Neitz - haha yeah right
Miller - nope, we need that wide ranging CHF target and big body, Williams couldn't fill that properly
Yze/Bruce/Green - this position is used for resting midfielders and back flankers, Williams is neither of those things
Robertson - the only spot Williams would have a chance at, and Robertson is more productive than Williams when healthy.

then we also ahve resting ruckmen going through there, honestly I can't see a spot for Williams in our lineup - it isn't about him not having the skill, it's about there not being a role for him.

Is there another Neitz in your forward line? Wow, crowded. You say that Williams isn't good enough to play in your forward line, as he'd crowd Neitz' space, but apparently this other Neitz gets a go. Interesting.

 

[sgbn77]

What a player.

Tough
Uncompromising
Goal-kicker
Tagger
Silky Skills
Contested Marker

He can do it all, please usher in, the Premiership Captain of 2007.

What a dud, seriously he wouldnt be in the 22 at any other club in the league but somehow gets the captaincy

Who is Melbourne's captain? Neitz? As far as I can tell, he only gets a tick in the following boxes...

Tough
Uncompromising
Goal-kicker
Tagger
Silky Skills
Contested Marker

Of Ritchie, I think most of us agree he's not the most talented player in the league, but in all honesty, he also ticks three of the boxes...

Tough
Uncompromising
Goal-kicker
Tagger
Silky Skills
Contested Marker

 

[rick James]

Errr I think he was taking the piss with the tagger line buddy.... and Neitz has great skills - very accurate kick, one of the best from outsdie 50 ever.

 

[Cynic]

one of the best from outsdie 50 ever.

Can you back that up?

 

[BedlamHawk]

You can't jsut look at it that way mate, you need to look at how he'd fit our structure - for a start, he wouldn't be the focal point at Melbourne, ever. never.

He has no defensieve side to his game and unless he's marking and kicking goals, he's next to useless. The only spot he'd be free to takle is Robertson's who imo is a better player than Williams.

Williams is a leading forward, so there's no way he can take a small forward spot.

Look at our forwards apart from Neitz:

Davey - no way
Pickett - once again, no way
Neitz - haha yeah right
Miller - nope, we need that wide ranging CHF target and big body, Williams couldn't fill that properly
Yze/Bruce/Green - this position is used for resting midfielders and back flankers, Williams is neither of those things
Robertson - the only spot Williams would have a chance at, and Robertson is more productive than Williams when healthy.

then we also ahve resting ruckmen going through there, honestly I can't see a spot for Williams in our lineup - it isn't about him not having the skill, it's about there not being a role for him.

Melbourne has a talented forwardline but I still think Williams would get a spot. People tend to forget that he doesn't just kick set shot goals anymore. He has improved his crumbing skills. He is a bit goal hungry sometimes but if you wan't proof of what he can do at ground level as we well as in the air watch the R22 match vs Geelong. He definitely made Josh Hunt look second-rate.

 

[rick James]

Can you back that up?

Has the record for most goals from outside 50 in one match, 6 against St Kilda just last year mid-season. Didn't miss any from outside 50 that day either.

Only guys i'd rather have kicking from outside 50 going around right now would be Lucas and Fevola.

 

[rick James]

Melbourne has a talented forwardline but I still think Williams would get a spot. People tend to forget that he doesn't just kick set shot goals anymore. He has improved his crumbing skills. He is a bit goal hungry sometimes but if you wan't proof of what he can do at ground level as we well as in the air watch the R22 match vs Geelong. He definitely made Josh Hunt look second-rate.

honestly I didn't see a whole lot of him in 2006 but he impressed me as a leading forard in 05 - I'll have to have another look at him in 07 and get back to you, though I do remember him being dropped from your forwardline which is hardly a ringing endorsement.