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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Ballarat had a lot of players out at the weekend so it's not an accurate reflection of the standard of their side, hopefully they can get a few back for what should be a very good clash with Redan.attended both finals games this weekend - Nth City made Ballarat look very second rate, Redan (with their makeshift back line) looked very good against Darley. Redan to get over Ballarat next week in what could be a very tight affair - but It's hard to see Nth City going down in the Grand Final.....
No it won'tBallarat had a lot of players out at the weekend so it's not an accurate reflection of the standard of their side, hopefully they can get a few back for what should be a very good clash with Redan.
In any event the Grand Final will be a tightly fought contest.
Sweet, may as well just not play the remaining games then..No it won't
Sweet, may as well just not play the remaining games then..
might as well, see you all next AprilSweet, may as well just not play the remaining games then..
Redan will beat Ballarat, then North city will beat redan. Its a mere formality.
Dont know what everyone else thinks.. but the league is just stale and has been for a few years.
I agree that the league seems to be stagnating and with some of the bigger clubs looking to leave it doesn't look healthy going forward.
What can be done though?
I think the Ballarat League is an example of a league who could benefit from a point system being introduced, under the proposed system current or ex vfl players would have a high points rating which would mean that north ballarat and for that matter any side would be limited in the number they could play..It all sounds good in theory, the administration and enforcing of it will be another matter...
What's your solution then? There seems to be far too many comps dominated by one or two teams??Enforcing points systems in the easy part. Players points on the team sheet before each game and anyone who fields a team with points totalling more than there allocation loses points each time it happens. My view is that in general points systems do not work well
I think for starters the culture of finger pointing within this league isn't great. Whether it be East vs West or North City vs everyone else it's all pretty toxic stuff and isn't exactly enticing players to come across to this comp.What's your solution then? There seems to be far too many comps dominated by one or two teams??
What's your solution then? There seems to be far too many comps dominated by one or two teams??
Has that league had the points system in for all of those 7 years?? I guess strong clubs will be strong regardless of the rules,it's more about trying to make the bottom clubs more competitive..maybe they could reduce the total points allowed, but even then, how low do you go, without making it a farce??I don't have a solution. I have just played in a league with a points system and this year in that league a side is playing off in their 7th consecutive grand final
Has that league had the points system in for all of those 7 years?? I guess strong clubs will be strong regardless of the rules,it's more about trying to make the bottom clubs more competitive..maybe they could reduce the total points allowed, but even then, how low do you go, without making it a farce??
Ok, take North City out of the equation for a second. The comp is still in the same state.
Poor crowds and fan engagement overall has nothing at all to do with North Ballarat.
You shouldn't be trying to bring down the best clubs so the bottom sides are competitive, far better to make the bottom sides better so they can compete with the top sides.Has that league had the points system in for all of those 7 years?? I guess strong clubs will be strong regardless of the rules,it's more about trying to make the bottom clubs more competitive..maybe they could reduce the total points allowed, but even then, how low do you go, without making it a farce??
You shouldn't be trying to bring down the best clubs so the bottom sides are competitive, far better to make the bottom sides better so they can compete with the top sides.
A points system unless mandatory for all leagues will just push the better players out of the league and into others at the overall detriment of the quality of the comp.[/QUOTE
I don't disagree with you, in any comp you have good and bad sides..you can only make struggling clubs better by giving them money or improving their junior program so they can produce more of there own..but if they don't have the money or the kids coming through, what rules can a league put in place to help?? I say a points system is worth a try as I haven't heard of any viable alternatives...
Couldn't agree more.You shouldn't be trying to bring down the best clubs so the bottom sides are competitive, far better to make the bottom sides better so they can compete with the top sides.
A points system unless mandatory for all leagues will just push the better players out of the league and into others at the overall detriment of the quality of the comp.
Didn't North Ballarat try and join the bellarine league when they re formed ? They may have been a good club to get into the GFL but that will probably never happen as long as Colac are in the GFL. I personally think that Melton , South and Darley should've looked at moving to a Geelong league instead of towards Ballarat all them years ago. No offence to Ballarat clubs but grounds,conditions etc in Geelong would've been more what them clubs were used to and may have helped in keeping interest and crowds up. Guess we'll never know tho.
a quick history lesson will tell you that when the rdfl clubs entered the bfl, redan were nearly dead and buried, their renaissance in part was their ability to draw players from north ballarat's vfl side..Redan, to their credit have been able to hang on to their golden for sometime, however with north ballarat re-entering the bfl, their recruiting ability will take a massive hit long term and the club will slide. Sunbury had to spend good coin to compete the last couple of years, but that wasn't sustainable, unless pokies revenue picks up again. So I believe this competition will go back to the way it was years ago where North Ballarat won premiership after premiership....Couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately it seems to be a built in thing in this league to complain rather than to get on the front foot.
Does North have some advantages, sure, however to say clubs like Redan can't compete at all is a blatant fallacy.