Bigfooty Yid Army Thread

[Yoda_]

he was confirmed a day or so before last game. 4-6 weeks

But Solanke is maybe not as bad as previously thought but his wasn't a hammy.

heard about the Solanke potential t one back before Liverpool, only heard Johnson today

 

[iDon]

Haven't delved into it too much but the comments are all positive under it. No disconnect from the players and manager, no intense training due to number of games, players and Ange let down by the club.

Absolutely get in the bin Levi

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[Topkent]

Lol wow. You can blame Ange but surely the medical department needs to be sacked.

 

[jd2010]

Did I hear right today that Johnson too maybe??


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Yeah he had a calf injury late in the arsenal game

 

[jd2010]

Lol wow. You can blame Ange but surely the medical department needs to be sacked.

Its a vicious cycle once an injury crisis begins

Those that aren't injured are overworked which puts them at higher risk for injury

 

[Topkent]

Yeah he had a calf injury late in the arsenal game

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The difference is here by the second season it wasn't an issue anymore, almost like Celtics medical staff are better than Tottenhams

 

[Topkent]

Its a vicious cycle once an injury crisis begins

Those that aren't injured are overworked which puts them at higher risk for injury

Catch 22 as well, if spurs weren't in Europe or the league cup there would have been far less toll on the squad as well

 

[jd2010]

When Ange said he had 11 fit players the other day it sent such a poor message to the dev squad players. Like they don't exist. And now how's their confidence when he does call upon them? I've always thought we should be giving a few more mins to them and bigging them up in this crisis. We've taken 5 points out of 30 in the league. Would it have been much worse with Lankshear, Hardy, Ajayi, Robson, Olusesi, Leo Black, Casanova getting some mins to keep our core senior players healthy? Wouldn't it be better to not overwork and break Solanke and still lose but have him for the next month?

 

[jd2010]

Austin
Porro Dragusin Davies Gray
Maddison Bergvall Kulu
Son Richarlison Moore

That's all that's left. Plus maybe a rushed back Bentancur.

Of that XI, Porro, Dragusin, Gray, Kulusevski and Son are running on fumes and high risk of injury and their forms also at risk.

Davies, Richarlison and Moore just back after lay offs are also at risk.

 

[jd2010]

The difference is here by the second season it wasn't an issue anymore, almost like Celtics medical staff are better than Tottenhams

Indictment on Levy and Munn if that's the case.

 

[Topkent]

Indictment on Levy and Munn if that's the case.

Yup I saw a bunch of Celtic fans saying first season had a lot of injuries and by the second season everyone was super fit and were executing his game plan and style without issue. Even playing in the CL and won the treble.

I know I defend Ange but it's not 1970 with Robert Walls making blokes do laps till they collapse lol Ange doesn't run the physical side of training. The sports science people do, in fact I'm pretty sure I read somewhere Ange barely even runs skills training he leaves it to his assistants

 

[jd2010]

Yup I saw a bunch of Celtic fans saying first season had a lot of injuries and by the second season everyone was super fit and were executing his game plan and style without issue. Even playing in the CL and won the treble.

I know I defend Ange but it's not 1970 with Robert Walls making blokes do laps till they collapse lol Ange doesn't run the physical side of training. The sports science people do, in fact I'm pretty sure I read somewhere Ange barely even runs skills training he leaves it to his assistants

Yeah the training isn't his fault

But his dismissing of using academy players during a crisis and over playing others is.

And I get the thinking of picking the 70% fit better players than a kid to some extent, it's a results focused industry. But the results aren't there doing it that way anyway and it's exasperating the fitness problems.

 

[Topkent]

Yeah the training isn't his fault

But his dismissing of using academy players during a crisis and over playing others is.

And I get the thinking of picking the 70% fit better players than a kid to some extent, it's a results focused industry. But the results aren't there doing it that way anyway and it's exasperating the fitness problems.

Potentially yes, the counter would be Tottenham have still been in every game except Liverpool and everton, playing the kids might have had them doing more everton halves and he might already be out of a job.

Points aren't there but I think there's been so many games where Tottenham have been in it late and a bit of luck could have seen them get a few more points.

Also again, it's possible the academy kids just aren't very good. 95% of them normally aren't.

 

[iDon]

Yup I saw a bunch of Celtic fans saying first season had a lot of injuries and by the second season everyone was super fit and were executing his game plan and style without issue. Even playing in the CL and won the treble.

I know I defend Ange but it's not 1970 with Robert Walls making blokes do laps till they collapse lol Ange doesn't run the physical side of training. The sports science people do, in fact I'm pretty sure I read somewhere Ange barely even runs skills training he leaves it to his assistants

The peddling of some article without context of the anti-ange bandwagon of spurs spupporters on Twitter and in here is laughable. "oooo everyone had hamstring injuries" next year, win the treble with fit as all team.

 

[Topkent]

So Sarr was injured during the everton game and couldn't get through training.
Bentancur back.

 

[Yoda_]

Potentially yes, the counter would be Tottenham have still been in every game except Liverpool and everton, playing the kids might have had them doing more everton halves and he might already be out of a job.

Points aren't there but I think there's been so many games where Tottenham have been in it late and a bit of luck could have seen them get a few more points.

Also again, it's possible the academy kids just aren't very good. 95% of them normally aren't.

Deki said post match that the last 3 games we've been on the wrong side of shit calls.

Luck really does play a part of football, not just injuries

 

[Topkent]

Deki said post match that the last 3 games we've been on the wrong side of shit calls.

Luck really does play a part of football, not just injuries

100%
Johnson missed an open goal against Newcastle to make it 2-2 and the joelinton handball. Evertons first goal was a handball and then Son misses a sitter to make it 1-1
Arsenal they score from a corner that never was.

Get some luck the other way in the league cup and beat Liverpool 1-0.
Son misses a penalty against wolves and it finishes 2-2.

It's all going against Tottenham right now.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Looks like Romero and VDV will be fit by 2nd leg at Anfield.
Please Ange, be a little pragmatic and sit back to hit on the counter. They need to score, we don't necessarily have to.

 

[jd2010]

Potentially yes, the counter would be Tottenham have still been in every game except Liverpool and everton, playing the kids might have had them doing more everton halves and he might already be out of a job.

Points aren't there but I think there's been so many games where Tottenham have been in it late and a bit of luck could have seen them get a few more points.

Also again, it's possible the academy kids just aren't very good. 95% of them normally aren't.

The results haven't been there regardless

And it's a common theme that managers won't trust players without senior minutes so I'm not picking on just Ange. But injury crisis and falling out with senior members type emergencies have seen us go to the well with this in the past. The obvious one to look at is Kane. But others like Mason, Tanganga, Bentaleb when given a go when desperate filled a role for not just the 90 mins they were thrown in, but became squad options because of the emergency.

There's more examples of guys who didn't get a look in over the years who also should have been who've proven to be handy PL players. Like KWP and Adam Smith at Bournemouth. Were they really levels below dross we've signed as RB or backup RB? No.

If mins in games we lost anyway were given to Lankshear over Solanke, and it avoided wear and tear on Solanke and he was available now, would we have more or less chance winning against Liverpool in the SF?

Would Porro's and Kulusevski form line have tanked so badly if they didn't have to play every game?

 

[Yoda_]

Yeah the training isn't his fault

But his dismissing of using academy players during a crisis and over playing others is.

And I get the thinking of picking the 70% fit better players than a kid to some extent, it's a results focused industry. But the results aren't there doing it that way anyway and it's exasperating the fitness problems.

This is what bothers me and has done for some time.

I wonder if Bergval and Grey would be getting the minutes they have if we didn't have an injury crisis?

Lose two more outfield players and we are playing Porro at RW and bring in Tyrese Hall into the starting XI it feels like





Ange needs to take responsibility about the load management of the players. Having most of our starting XI at bloody Tamworth was embarrassing, almost more so they had to go to extra time.

 

[Yoda_]

Levy would seriously need some personal protection if these reports turn out to be true and we dont sign any outfield players in January.


Ange has been shouting from the roof tops about needing reinforcements, to not be backed by Levy is just embarrassing for all now. We really are a shit show. I don care how you feel, iother (smaller) clubs are getting deals done whilst we pretend like we want to. t's embarrassing for all involved.

Dodoro Levy really does just want a bargain late in the window... again

 

[jd2010]

This is what bothers me and has done for some time.

I wonder if Bergval and Grey would be getting the minutes they have if we didn't have an injury crisis?

Lose two more outfield players and we are playing Porro at RW and bring in Tyrese Hall into the starting XI it feels like





Ange needs to take responsibility about the load management of the players. Having most of our starting XI at bloody Tamworth was embarrassing, almost more so they had to go to extra time.

Having them on the hard synthetic pitch could not be good for their overworked bodies either.

Now you can't throw lambs to the slaughter at the last minute. But more integration and mins shared between Oct-Jan would lessen the likelihood of the injury of senior players, and give us more chance to maintain form and peak sharpness of those who haven't yet broken down.

Let's be real, we are more chance losing 2 of Romero, VDV, Kulusevski or Porro to injury because of desperation than we are winning the CC, FA Cup or EL

 

[hawkman]

This is what bothers me and has done for some time.

I wonder if Bergval and Grey would be getting the minutes they have if we didn't have an injury crisis?

Lose two more outfield players and we are playing Porro at RW and bring in Tyrese Hall into the starting XI it feels like





Ange needs to take responsibility about the load management of the players. Having most of our starting XI at bloody Tamworth was embarrassing, almost more so they had to go to extra time.

Gray was getting regular time in the EL, Bergvall was usually coming off the bench but wasn't showing much to say he could start.

 

[jd2010]

Gray was getting regular time in the EL, Bergvall was usually coming off the bench but wasn't showing much to say he could start.

Again not an Ange only slight. But our A-team, B-team type rotation through the cups often means guys getting mins in the cup comps don't get to play alongside 7-8 top quality players. But are around majority 2nd rate players. Especially for the younger ones it becomes harder to shine.

Also, kudos to Ange for his light hearted approach to his translators coughing fit in the presser