Bigfooty Yid Army Thread

[Art Vandelay_]

even in comparison to similar standards, we have good kids coming through, we just dont utilise enough imho

Don't agree at all. Our academy is garbage.
Produces SFA.

 

[jd2010]

You don't dump academy kids into teams that are struggling.

Ange has used kids in every league before, it's very clear he prefers to work with young players. It's very possible these guys aren't ready/good enough.

But then we want Bobby who isn't as good as Parrott

 

[Topkent]

But then we want Bobby who isn't as good as Parrott

Based on a rumour that could have absolutely no substance to it all same as 99% of the ones in January

 

[Yoda_]

Don't agree at all. Our academy is garbage.
Produces SFA.

the same accent that won PL2 last year?

Is that the same Will Lankshear who was clearly the best player in the division? The same team who have now had multiples play first team elsewhere but not here at Spurs?

We never know how good / bad these kids are unless we give them games.. We ship them off to other leagues and then make up our minds off that form. Makes little sense why we bother with our academy

 

[Topkent]

the same accent that won PL2 last year?

Is that the same Will Lankshear who was clearly the best player in the division? The same team who have now had multiples play first team elsewhere but not here at Spurs?

We never know how good / bad these kids are unless we give them games.. We ship them off to other leagues and then make up our minds off that form. Makes little sense why we bother with our academy

13th the season before that and 23rd right now.
You can say give these kids games, name me the amount of academy kids playing seniors this season in the PL. Cause half the clubs wouldn't have had 1 yet. Tottenham have given minutes to 3 of them. If you don't count arsenal it's already probably the most

 

[jd2010]

Based on a rumour that could have absolutely no substance to it all same as 99% of the ones in January

Came from fairly reputable journalists so I doubt it was baseless

We went to Ajax to go for a player they don't think is good enough for them for a loan.

All I'm saying is it would have been better not to have sold a superior HG talent in the summer. It's not like we got 20m for him. Was under 8m from memory.

We are now shopping in the bargain basement bin for non HG talents worse than what we had on our books

 

[jd2010]

It's actually quite ironic and sad that the areas of desperate need right now, there's HG talent playing in major top flight leagues

KWP would be ideal right now to play LB inverted

Marcus Edwards would play RW and LW better than Werner and would allow Kulusevski to stay central midfield

Troy Parrot who is out performing guys like Santiago Giminez would have been a great backup ST to Solanke

 

[Topkent]

Came from fairly reputable journalists so I doubt it was baseless

We went to Ajax to go for a player they don't think is good enough for them for a loan.

All I'm saying is it would have been better not to have sold a superior HG talent in the summer. It's not like we got 20m for him. Was under 8m from memory.

We are now shopping in the bargain basement bin for non HG talents worse than what we had on our books

It's hard to have these talks because you say things like Ajax don't rate him, scored double figures 2 seasons in a row for them until this year, he's done more that Parrots done who's had one good half season and now he's definitely better. Guarantee you haven't seen a minute of them play in the Dutch league this season. Maybe Parrot is the complete opposite of an Ange st, maybe Bobbey plays exactly like one. It's crazy to make such outlandish claims like Parrots better and Bobbey sucks off looking at a stat sheet quick

 

[jd2010]

It's hard to have these talks because you say things like Ajax don't rate him, scored double figures 2 seasons in a row for them until this year, he's done more that Parrots done who's had one good half season and now he's definitely better. Guarantee you haven't seen a minute of them play in the Dutch league this season. Maybe Parrot is the complete opposite of an Ange st, maybe Bobbey plays exactly like one. It's crazy to make such outlandish claims like Parrots better and Bobbey sucks off looking at a stat sheet quick

Bobby has barely got a look in at Ajax this season. 1 goal in 9 league starts. 2 in all comps. He's not in their plans which is why he is gettable in the bargain bin.

The Ange style striker is such a myth tbh. Solanke is nothing like the Japanese fella he had at celtic.

Ange will use his striker to their own strengths

 

[Topkent]

Bobby has barely got a look in at Ajax this season. 2 goals in 10 starts. He's not in their plans which is why he is gettable in the bargain bin.

The Ange style striker is such a myth tbh. Solanke is nothing like the Japanese fella he had at celtic.

Ange will use his striker to their own strengths

Nah. He needs a heavy pressing striker, a target man doesn't work so that's just wrong. An kyogo was a heavy pressing channel runner same as Solanke.

I'm bored of this actually lol

 

[jd2010]

Nah. He needs a heavy pressing striker, a target man doesn't work so that's just wrong. An kyogo was a heavy pressing channel runner same as Solanke.

I'm bored of this actually lol

And bobbey isn't a heavy pressing ST and Parrot is.

You can't admit that ange has ever made a bad decision lol, we are 15th not solely because of him. But his daft use of the 2nd most expensive academy in the country is one bad decision.

 

[Yoda_]

It's actually quite ironic and sad that the areas of desperate need right now, there's HG talent playing in major top flight leagues

KWP would be ideal right now to play LB inverted

Marcus Edwards would play RW and LW better than Werner and would allow Kulusevski to stay central midfield

Troy Parrot who is out performing guys like Santiago Giminez would have been a great backup ST to Solanke

our academy doesn't produce good kids though apparently

 

[Topkent]

our academy doesn't produce good kids though apparently

That's 2 good players in a decade.
Parrots done nothing to be able to say he's a success yet.

Also name me a club that has held onto 100% of the correct academy talents? I'll wait.

Every club has misses.

 

[jd2010]

That's 2 good players in a decade.
Parrots done nothing to be able to say he's a success yet.

Also name me a club that has held onto 100% of the correct academy talents? I'll wait.

Every club has misses.

20 goals in 36 starts at a lower table and now mid to top club.

We'd be looking to slap down 40m on him with that record if he wasn't one of our own.

Adam Smith, Bentaleb, Madueke, Winks, Skipp, KWP, Edwards, Parrott all playing in good leagues. Tanganga, Mundle and Cirkin doing quite well in the championship. Jack Clarke we signed for our 21s who did well at Sunderland

 

[Topkent]

20 goals in 36 starts at a lower table and now mid to top club.

We'd be looking to slap down 40m on him with that record if he wasn't one of our own.

Adam Smith, Bentaleb, Madueke, Winks, Skipp, KWP, Edwards, Parrott all playing in good leagues. Tanganga, Mundle and Cirkin doing quite well in the championship. Jack Clarke we signed for our 21s who did well at Sunderland

Madueke is good, Bentaleb talented I guess. Smith and KWP probably aren't much better than how Spence is looking. Edwards is good yeah.

It's a lot of shit though. Alot of championship level talent.

If you wanna cherry pick the best misses from City's academy you can do Porro, Sancho, Palmer, Luiz etc. It's not comparable

 

[jd2010]

Madueke is good, Bentaleb talented I guess. Smith and KWP probably aren't much better than how Spence is looking. Edwards is good yeah.

It's a lot of shit though. Alot of championship level talent.

If you wanna cherry pick the best misses from City's academy you can do Porro, Sancho, Palmer, Luiz etc. It's not comparable

It's not the best. But it's 12 players playing in some top leagues.

Madueke and Edwards > no proper RW

Bentaleb not up to it anymore

Cirkin, Smith and KWP > no proper backup LB

Mundle and Clarke > Werner

Parrott > Lankshear who we now want tp loan as 3rd ST

Not really sure Winks is that much worse than Bissouma for Angeball

It's not just them being useful for us now. We unlike other clubs didn't maximize many of their sale values due to mismanagement by predecessors to Ange

 

[Art Vandelay_]

the same accent that won PL2 last year?

Is that the same Will Lankshear who was clearly the best player in the division? The same team who have now had multiples play first team elsewhere but not here at Spurs?

We never know how good / bad these kids are unless we give them games.. We ship them off to other leagues and then make up our minds off that form. Makes little sense why we bother with our academy

I am speaking more over a long period of time. Not just last season. If our youth was clearly good enough it stands to reason managers would use them.

I don't believe we have a Alexander-Arnold level player in the ranks and were simply refusing to give them a go just for shit n giggles.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Adam Smith, Madueke, Winks, Skipp, Tanganga, Mundle all shit.

Cirkin, Edwards, KWP, Parrott all okay but not at our level.

Kane and Townsend the only hits and both are now 10-15 years since debuting.

 

[Yoda_]

I feel people have missed my point re academies

Im not suggesting playing an academy kid for 3 prom league games in a row, the Tamworth game, carrabao cup games etc.

We're getting them on the bench, are they not good enough to play minutes? a 15 minute cameo? a 45 minute half?

Lankshear should be eating up the minutes given to him. I was hoping Dorrington would get minutes with the senior squad, ditto Donley. Im talking about out academy kids not ones bought. (tbs, I didn't realise Moore had been with us for years so I'll give myself a mulligan on this)

 

[hawkman]

I feel people have missed my point re academies

Im not suggesting playing an academy kid for 3 prom league games in a row, the Tamworth game, carrabao cup games etc.

We're getting them on the bench, are they not good enough to play minutes? a 15 minute cameo? a 45 minute half?

Lankshear should be eating up the minutes given to him. I was hoping Dorrington would get minutes with the senior squad, ditto Donley. Im talking about out academy kids not ones bought. (tbs, I didn't realise Moore had been with us for years so I'll give myself a mulligan on this)

In general I wouldn't disagree with you about getting more time into academy kids. However, this season I don't think it would have been right given that Gray and Bergvall are playing so often and then Moore getting regular minutes when fit. Add any more in and then the team becomes too inexperienced

 

[jd2010]

I feel people have missed my point re academies

Im not suggesting playing an academy kid for 3 prom league games in a row, the Tamworth game, carrabao cup games etc.

We're getting them on the bench, are they not good enough to play minutes? a 15 minute cameo? a 45 minute half?

Lankshear should be eating up the minutes given to him. I was hoping Dorrington would get minutes with the senior squad, ditto Donley. Im talking about out academy kids not ones bought. (tbs, I didn't realise Moore had been with us for years so I'll give myself a mulligan on this)

Yeah and I'm not talking about this season in isolation

We've mishandled our academy ever since Sherwood left tbh

 

[jd2010]

Our lofty 47% wage to turnover ratio has reduced to a record breaking 42%

Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Or in footballing terms Werners and Dragusins

 

[Yoda_]

Our lofty 47% wage to turnover ratio has reduced to a record breaking 42%

Pay peanuts, get monkeys. Or in footballing terms Werners and Dragusins

im not being facetious, what does this all mean?

obviously its a pissant on Levy & ENIC, I dont understand it


layman's terms will do

 

[jd2010]

im not being facetious, what does this all mean?

obviously its a pissant on Levy & ENIC, I dont understand it


layman's terms will do

For every £1 we earn in revenue we spend £0.42 on player wages. Most counterparts spend £0.50-0.60

With our increasing revenue from go karts, NFL, concerts etc. We are spending less on the football pitch than ever before

If we spent like our peers we'd be spending about 400k-500k a week more than we are currently

 

[Art Vandelay_]

im not being facetious, what does this all mean?

obviously its a pissant on Levy & ENIC, I dont understand it


layman's terms will do

It means nothing at all in isolation. Needs contextm
We're at 105m in wages. Arsenal and Chelsea are at 180m. 75m gap is roughly an extra 7 players on 200k p/w wages.

Increasing wages only matters if we're luring top talent, which we won't so why overpay to become like United. Luring that top talent would see us spend our 100-150m very quickly, likely on 1-2 players.