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Ok so I'm curious about this guy.
Port made a play for Andrew Walker from the Blues in trade week, as a Krakouer run and carry HBF replacement. This guy can kick so he already sounds infinitely better to me.
One question:
If he had all the tools to be a gun AFL player, instead of keeping him, (or at the least making you guys use a pick on him, even a late one which they wouldn't have used), why did they give him to you (basically) for nothing?
Not an entirely convincing response... I think they'd be happy to have guy who can have a Barlow type impact and 25 is not old at all. They have players his age and older including spuds like D.Harris, J.Fraser and stars like Ablett.Probably because he'll be 25 when the season starts next year might not fit into their building plans and they don't want too many spots in that starting 22 taken by 'mature' players.
That would make sense. There are only so many spots on a list.Must admit that's on my mind too - I do remember hearing the GC recruiting guy (forgot his name) saying that they had already largely earmarked their squad/picks and players and were happy to trade whatever beyond that if it gave them some sort of advantage. In this case, even if it was only for a few spots up the draft order. He basically said that they couldn't fit anymore than what they had 'planned for'. that is the only thing that I can come up with.
Yep. Makes sense.I think Scott Clayton at the gold coast realizes that they have more than enough concessions, players and picks and didn't want to waste time negotiating on a player that they may habe not had on their radar.
He has ability no doubt. Is he an AFL quality player? We'll have to wait and see.settle down powerade....just because the gold coast dont rate him doesnt mean he has no ability!!!!
Not an entirely convincing response... I think they'd be happy to have guy who can have a Barlow type impact and 25 is not old at all. They have players his age and older including spuds like D.Harris, J.Fraser and stars like Ablett.
That would make sense. There are only so many spots on a list.
Still, they didn't even make you pay for him? If he was rated highly they would have traded him in a straight swap for a pick, even if they didn't intend to use that pick. Get what I'm saying there?
... but then again your recruiters are in some good form atm. So we'll see how he goes.
Yep. Makes sense.
He has ability no doubt. Is he an AFL quality player? We'll have to wait and see.
I'm just confused that we went after Andrew Walker when someone that could kick was available.
Thanks for the responses guys.
ill tell you why you guys were after andrew walker and not tendai....have a look at your draft history in recent history.
last year with pics 8 & 9 you chose andrew moore and john butcher....leaving guys like jordy gysberts, lewis jetta or kane lucas. then with pick 16 you had a chance to redeem yourselves and you wasted it on some guy named jasper mcmillan-pettard leaving freo a bunch of talent to recruit including nat fyfe, dylan roberton and jesse crichton as well as other players that went after that like bastinac, koby stevens, daniel menzel, mitch duncan, ben nason, jeremy laidler and troy taylor.
if you dont understand what i'm putting down, then ill spell it out for you...your recruiting team sucks!!!!
Apparantly teams like fremantle spoke to GC an asked them to grab these types of players, to hold onto them so no other club can get them.
As GC already had the mature players they wanted,all they asked for in return were pick upgrades.
So basically even if Port were keen on him,GC had already put him on hold for freo to collect.
Collingwood was another team that aproached GC to hold players for them.
There's an article floating around today - i can't find it but it should be running in the papers tomorrow - where Scott Clayton explains why the GC did those deals.
He said the Suns had a list model in place where they have a top tier of players (uncontracted eight), a select few mature-aged prospects and then a majority of young draftees.
Basically they had all the mature-aged prospects they need and were happy to work with other clubs to get their targeted players in exchange for a slightly better draft pick.
It's no skin off the Suns' back to do these deals and they end up with a better pick. Win-win.
One good thing about GWS coming in next year, we'll be able to do more of this. Bad thing is, everyone else will have cottoned onto it and will be trying to do it as well.
Unless Vlad closes the loophole and tells GWS if they pre-list a player they must take him.
Bigger than Barlow
Tendai Mzungu.
Watched him for the last 4 years waiting for it to click. This year it all came together.
Will only get stronger and fitter with an AFL pre-season under his belt.
GC were allowed to pre-list players, who they could claim as their own and then trade for draft picks.
We have jagged two from them. Faulks and Mzungu.
I understand how the Faulks deal came about, was on the Sydney previously, GC could claim formerly listed AFL players, we traded with GC.
How could Muzungu get listed ?. I understand if he was a former AFL listed player. Were GC allowed to select "unlisted" players, other than a trailer load of 17 year olds ?.
I hope you're right but I saw 4 or 5 of his games this year and the same last year and he didn't blow me away like some are suggesting. I also don't like the fact that he has come on so quickly. Perhaps this year was a flash in the pan? From all accounts his previous 4 or 5 years prior to 2009 have been very ordinary. Why is that?