Bigman’s Training Reports

[Golumless]

That was before the 6-6-6 rule came into effect, he really struggled once it did and he had to be more accountable for his man.

Hopefully he can adjust, as I can’t (hope) see him getting back into the midfield .

2020 was the year Laird struggled, but so did everyone at Adelaide in the first half of the season. Almost like it was a group mourning their last shot at a flag.

2019 Laird was no different to 2017 Laird. It's just he had a career year in the middle. Well, outside of some decreases in offensive output, in part due to the utterly fraudulent gameplan we threw out at the start of the year and imploding in the back end.

 

[bigman]

Appreciate the write up, love your work!



Scope to be an inside mid or moreso a back flanker in your opinion?

Also what does it seem like Crom view his position as? Getting any CBA opportunities in training?

Don’t think we see him as an inside mid, he does his best work with a bit of space to set the up the play and is a high level interceptor. Ground ball stoppage work isn’t really his go.

There hasn’t been any midfield work for him other than some wing time.

 

[bigman]

Sounds like Keane flattened Nank and the lads got a bit of fire in the belly ??

bigman did you happen to see this or is it another media beat up ??

I did see Nank cop a decent hit but my view was a bit obscured and I couldn’t see who else was involved, so didn’t mention it. Thankfully Nank got up pretty quickly, he’s tougher than he looks.

Wouldn’t be the first time Keane has gone a bit too hard at training though!

 

[bigman]

He is not a lock down small defender so his decision making, disposal and run would need to improve alot as you say.

I don't think he is a defender. I think the days of putting some back when they are struggling in the midfield are over. You have to offer a point of difference as a defender now a days.

Hope he proves me wrong.

He’s been playing high half back thus far during training, a fair way away from deep defence.

I can’t fault his approach to this point. Proof will be in the pudding of course but at this stage I’d be surprised if he’s not in the team round one.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Don’t think we see him as an inside mid, he does his best work with a bit of space to set the up the play and is a high level interceptor. Ground ball stoppage work isn’t really his go.

There hasn’t been any midfield work for him other than some wing time.

Heard the club sees him as half back / wing

Which is how giants saw him

Now if w dare doing rankings for half back roles if everyone is fully fit how would you rank these ? It’s tough

Hinge / Cumming / Ryan / Milera / Nankervis / Jones / Laird

Also am I missing anyone ? Maybe Curtin but I see him front half inc mid / wing

That’s not even including max who I’ve got playing a touch deeper due to superb shut down skills

 

[bigman]

Hey bigman would be interested to hear if Hugh Bond is used as a defensive midfielder (dare I say, tagger) at all throughout the pre-season.

Has all the tools to become a very good midfield stopper I reckon. Massive engine, aggressive tackler, defensive stopping ability.

Stickerman I agree that Bond would be well suited to the role given his tank and defensive intent. He got shown up by Merrett last year but hard to judge given his inexperience in the role and in general.

So far it hasn’t been a thing and he looks to be considered a defender by the coaches. Having said that, stoppage work has been kept to a minimum so can’t rule it out yet.

 

[bigman]

Heard the club sees him as half back / wing

Which is how giants saw him

Now if w dare doing rankings for half back roles if everyone is fully fit how would you rank these ? It’s tough

Hinge / Cumming / Ryan / Milera / Nankervis / Jones / Laird

Also am I missing anyone ? Maybe Curtin but I see him front half inc mid / wing

That’s not even including max who I’ve got playing a touch deeper due to superb shut down skills

To be honest I think Cumming is probably numero uno already. Not just because he’s training so well but also because he’s a proven performer in the role at AFL level and has a skill set we need badly.

Hinge would likely be next in line. He’s a quality player although I was curious as to why he didn’t make the top ten in the B+F. I wonder why the coaches didn’t rate his year particularly high, personally I thought he was good after a shaky start.

I would still like us to give Nank a real go on the wing. He intercepts well but he’s got a lot of flair and could do some special work forward of centre for us if freed up. I suspect Cumming and Hinge will see more wing time however.

Laird is probably at a similar spot to Nank on the hierarchy. Jones I can’t see playing much in defence, he's trained solely as a wing pushing forward which I don’t mind as he has some ability around goals.

Ryan I think will need to bide his time a little longer in the SANFL. Smith will probably see games but may not start in the senior side.

Milera is the curious one. He’s moving really well and should be in full training post Christmas. Bit of a forgotten man. Unless he blitzes pre season games you’d think he starts in the reserves but who knows.

Pleasingly we’ve developed more depth in the area although I do think our wings are still a bit suspect. Sholl had a great year and has improved a lot but there’s still that lingering feeling he may get shown by on the finals stage when the intensity steps up another level. That Sydney game at the end of the year was a bit of a reality check.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

To be honest I think Cumming is probably numero uno already. Not just because he’s training so well but also because he’s a proven performer in the role at AFL level and has a skill set we need badly.

Hinge would likely be next in line. He’s a quality player although I was curious as to why he didn’t make the top ten in the B+F. I wonder why the coaches didn’t rate his year particularly high, personally I thought he was good after a shaky start.

I would still like us to give Nank a real go on the wing. He intercepts well but he’s got a lot of flair and could do some special work forward of centre for us if freed up. I suspect Cumming and Hinge will see more wing time however.

Laird is probably at a similar spot to Nank on the hierarchy. Jones I can’t see playing much in defence, he's trained solely as a wing pushing forward which I don’t mind as he has some ability around goals.

Ryan I think will need to bide his time a little longer in the SANFL. Smith will probably see games but may not start in the senior side.

Milera is the curious one. He’s moving really well and should be in full training post Christmas. Bit of a forgotten man. Unless he blitzes pre season games you’d think he starts in the reserves but who knows.

Pleasingly we’ve developed more depth in the area although I do think our wings are still a bit suspect. Sholl had a great year and has improved a lot but there’s still that lingering feeling he may get shown by on the finals stage when the intensity steps up another level. That Sydney game at the end of the year was a bit of a reality check.

Agree with all

Yep Cumming / Hinge for me top ranked but I think Cumming will play a fair bit of wing

The only thing that group is missing is someone with blistering speed , Nank is prob the quickest and milera most agility ( when fit )

Ryan is going to be a beautiful kick at afl level , I really hope he plays 5 games next year

Yep Sholl will likely start wing but I’m not locking him in forever , at least he plays to his strengths which Cook should look at

 

[bigman]

Ryan seems like a bit of a coaches kind of player - takes the game on but isn’t a one way street, has a good defensive mindset.

Occasionally bites off more than he can chew which I don’t mind, also needs to keep building his body a bit but like Max he’s tough so won’t be an issue in time.

Has a slightly awkward gait, sort of shuffles and twists as he runs. But he’s a quality prospect.

He’s been solid this pre season without standing out heaps. If Cumming didn’t come here I think he would be a chance for early selection, can’t see it now though.

To be honest he was very stiff to not get games last year. Didn’t really put a foot wrong and we weren’t exactly shooting the lights out.

 

[FR0GGY]

Just read on Adelaide Now that we were one of the last clubs to resume full training! Similar to teams that finished in finals. Why the hell would we do that!?

We start late in seasons and in games, so why not?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yes, it's a Berry problem. Unlike others, I'm not worried by some fumbles from him, but I am worried by his continual assumption that he can break through tackles and run away at his leisure: he gets run down more often than not. He has to learn that he is not fast enough and needs to get rid of the ball very quickly.

I'm worried by the lack of clean handling at times.

Think he will only be a depth player for us

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ryan seems like a bit of a coaches kind of player - takes the game on but isn’t a one way street, has a good defensive mindset.

Occasionally bites off more than he can chew which I don’t mind, also needs to keep building his body a bit but like Max he’s tough so won’t be an issue in time.

Has a slightly awkward gait, sort of shuffles and twists as he runs. But he’s a quality prospect.

He’s been solid this pre season without standing out heaps. If Cumming didn’t come here I think he would be a chance for early selection, can’t see it now though.

To be honest he was very stiff to not get games last year. Didn’t really put a foot wrong and we weren’t exactly shooting the lights out.

We really should have given Ryan a taste last season... particularly when he had good sanfl form.

We need to give him his debut within the 1st month or so to find out what he's like at AFL level.

We should be looking to rotate around 30 players to keep them fresh.

 

[triggyscrewedus]

So it's official, Bigman said the Curtains are silk.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Just read on Adelaide Now that we were one of the last clubs to resume full training! Similar to teams that finished in finals. Why the hell would we do that!?

Presumably we looked at last preseason and are doing the complete opposite

Starting later
Nicks in another country
Recruiting players
Bolstering coaching ranks

 

[FR0GGY]

Presumably we looked at last preseason and are doing the complete opposite

Starting later
Nicks in another country
Recruiting players
Bolstering coaching ranks

Lookout for the all out attack.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Lookout for the all out attack.

Kick outs long to the left

 

[32year crow]

Bigman how did Toby go against O’Brien?

 

[whattagun07]

Where's Josh Money's training Report?

 

[GameofSloanes]

Where's Josh Money's training Report?

Draper hating being at the crows

 

[hippyhippy]

Can we get a thread mark for actual training report posts?

 

[hippyhippy]

Stickerman I agree that Bond would be well suited to the role given his tank and defensive intent. He got shown up by Merrett last year but hard to judge given his inexperience in the role and in general.

You're talking about a rookie against one of the best and most consistent players in the league, and he didn't do too badly imho

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Can we get a thread mark for actual training report posts?

Threadmarks added

 

[Carn The Texan]

You're talking about a rookie against one of the best and most consistent players in the league, and he didn't do too badly imho

Bond will learn a lot from that game and subsequent games. Merrett taught him a massive and very important lesson about getting wrong sided in the contest at a centre bounce and I doubt he'd let it happen again. He's very raw and as such has the most potential for improvement in our team (apart from say, an Irish Cat B rookie). He's one of the guys I'm most excited to see play this year.

 

[StickerMan]

You're talking about a rookie against one of the best and most consistent players in the league, and he didn't do too badly imho

Worth persisting with I reckon. I don't recall Nicks being too keen on using a tagger, however there is still a role to be played IMO.

Seems Bond is the perfect choice, given his skillset.

 

[Crow till I die]

Draper hating being at the crows

I feel terrible for young Drapes..spending his next 15 years at the crows against his will