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Jars458 said:
A hair cut is just a hair cut. Won’t make him a better player. Controversial I know.😎
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Yeah I wasn’t seriously thinking that a haircut was going to change his skills
 
1970crow said:
Rucking takes it out of you, so if we want him to be at his best as a key forward, he's going to have to be ruck fit because he's always going to be giving the primary ruck a breather. He's a naturally big body anyway, so I don't think there's any trade off with him becoming an aerobic beast.
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I haven't tracked it closely previous years & was surprised to see him in that tier. Fit is good though - he's already a pretty scary prospect for opposition and just adds to it. Just dont want him to be a full time ruckman and wondered if there was any indication of it from training. Sounds like a non-issue. Good.
 

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Mutineer said:
No arguments from me, he's way too valuable up forward as a roaming St.Nick type where his endurance can be a real difference maker gassing his opponents than to have him hacking about in ruck
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That’s my point though , so far he’s had his best games as a deep forward dominating with his contested marks

Yet to see him dominate a game in a Nick Riewoldt style through burning opponents off with his running but if he could add that to his game he would be pretty complete
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
He's our best to go to marking option... so we need to him on the move so that he is a regular option.

Wasted if just plays full forward, but he absolutely should be there when we kicking the ball in deep.
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I wouldn’t say wasted

If he gets the right match up to expose he is most dangerous deep forward

Much rather that than him running around the wings

Endurance is his cherry on top , not main weapon
 
If we can get him to take the ruck, tap it down to Rankine who laces out fog at 60, who then puts it in the square to where Thilthorpe has burnt off his opponent and rises above the pack to take the ball at the highest point.
The game plan should be easy.
Or fog can just slot it from 60
 
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FR0GGY said:
If we can get him to take the ruck, tap it down to Rankine who laces out fog from 60, who then puts it in the square to where Thilthorpe has burnt off his opponent and rises above the pack to take the ball at the highest point.
The game plan should be easy.
Or fog can just slot it from 60
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I like Fog slotting it👍
 
Diffence of opinion on TT and his use.
Agree along with Sam Darcy will become the dominant tall forwards in the comp over next ten years.
Also think he should be used min 30% ruck not like traditional forwards.

Two flags stick out in his return games last year to look into.
Why his two highest data scores were when he had 18% and 20% ruck ?
Why he kicked 3 in both games and his position played when kicking them ?

Two games to watch and did first two qtrs of Geelong last night. He has a big impact on games
when in ruck and runs off the opposing ruck getting forward multiple times, goal assists
and goal whilst in ruck. He got the team going in qtr2.

Wish we had two of him but can’t be wasted totally at full forward imo, understand injury risk .

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Jeffcrowe said:
I wouldn’t say wasted

If he gets the right match up to expose he is most dangerous deep forward

Much rather that than him running around the wings

Endurance is his cherry on top , not main weapon
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The worst games I have seen Thilthorpe play is when he is stuck at full forward & getting a very few looks at the ball.

Just don't understand when you are getting little action that he doesn't take himself further up the ground.

When he is the target from anywhere wing to forward, he rarely lets us down. Either marks the ball or brings it to ground where he very mobile.

Sure I don't mind using him at full forward when there plenty of supply, but imo purely at full forward is a waste.

We need all our key forwards on the move.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
The worst games I have seen Thilthorpe play is when he is stuck at full forward & getting a very few looks at the ball.

Just don't understand when you are getting little action that he doesn't take himself further up the ground.

When he is the target from anywhere wing to forward, he rarely lets us down. Either marks the ball or brings it to ground where he very mobile.

Sure I don't mind using him at full forward when there plenty of supply, but imo purely at full forward is a waste.

We need all our key forwards on the move.
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Literally all his most dominant games have been as a deep forward

Of course the more strings to his bow the better for him and the team
 
Jeffcrowe said:
That’s my point though , so far he’s had his best games as a deep forward dominating with his contested marks

Yet to see him dominate a game in a Nick Riewoldt style through burning opponents off with his running but if he could add that to his game he would be pretty complete
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That has to be on the coaches, pretty sure that will change post Tex.
 
Jeffcrowe said:
Literally all his most dominant games have been as a deep forward

Of course the more strings to his bow the better for him and the team
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No, the games where he has kicked most goals are when he has been at full forward.

Being at the ground, his best games have been when he has been a leading target & not stationary at full forward. Much higher mark & possession count & more influence on the game.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
No, the games where he has kicked most goals are when he has been at full forward.

Being at the ground, his best games have been when he has been a leading target & not stationary at full forward. Much higher mark & possession count & more influence on the game.
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Disagree

He’s shown signs in those roles but his dominant match winning games have been deep ( which includes leading target )
 
Mutineer said:
I don't know how close you watched the SANFL last season but I can see a player in him for sure especially the last few games where he actually got to use some of the speed we hadn't really seen early on. I'd much sooner persevere with Edwards for a few seasons than the likes of Schoenberg or Cook if they don't lift big time this season.
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Oh yeah same
Need to persevere

Not sure he’s overly settled in Adelaide and sounds like he’s regressed re his fitness

Talent is there just not sure he will get there , fingers crossed he does

Footy IQ main issue so needs to be really fit I reckon
 
This old argument seems to surface from time to time.

I give it the same answer every time. Riley will be one of the top big men in the competition. Must not be pigeon holed. He’ll go wherever he feels he needs to impact the game. Forward, running through the centre, ruck, or taking relieving marks in defence when the crows are 1 point up with 15 seconds to go.

Just enjoy having him.
 
Jeffcrowe said:
Oh yeah same
Need to persevere

Not sure he’s overly settled in Adelaide and sounds like he’s regressed re his fitness

Talent is there just not sure he will get there , fingers crossed he does

Footy IQ main issue so needs to be really fit I reckon
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The biggest issue for young talented players is the mental side of things.

Big year for Edwards as needs to show he has what it takes or falling into the waste pile.
 
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