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Jasper84 said:
This may be the dumbest take yet. Which is pretty impressive considering some of the company it's in. Your questioning the club's abilities to trade well because they used pick 62 to pick up a player, that has done everything asked of him including playing out of position on GF day (both Cox and Pendles have talked about this on post GF podcasts). If that's not bad enough you blame him for losing us a premiership that we didn't lose!

All this in a vein attempt to show that club pays overs in trades.
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where did I mention Framptons trade pick number?
never even mentioned it

was talking about his performance on the day, but please don’t ever let facts get in the way
 
sr36 said:
I liked him in the ruck. Thought he was good around stoppage. Got a bit lost in no man's land around the ground though.
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that is probably his best position for us, back up ruck, because his direct opponent, unless it’s a Gawn or English, wouldn’t really impact against us, and he is mobile for a big man. Then as a defender
Being a forward ain’t his thing, looks totally lost
 
ksardog said:
so you comparing Frampton with Adams , Grundy and Treloar. I will give you Markov 👍 but he has one genuine asset, blistering pace
what does Frampton have, he is your typical 6ft 6 who can’t hold a permanent position on the ground because he is not good enough to play there full time

harsh but true
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I wasn't comparing anyone with anyone. You seem to be the one doing that. I'm merely stating being at your 3rd club proves nothing. It certainly doesn't prove your point.
 

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ksardog said:
where did I mention Framptons trade pick number?
never even mentioned it

was talking about his performance on the day, but please don’t ever let facts get in the way
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Probably when you responded to my post about using pick 62 on Frampton, that it almost cost us a flag.
 
ksardog said:
being at your 3rd club without securing a permanent position at any of those clubs says something to me.
You just ain’t that good
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On that logic, all those players I mentioned must not be any good either. Grundy couldn't secure a ruck position at Pies or a ruck/forward role at the Dee's. Adams left us because he couldn't secure an inside mid role with us. Markov couldn't secure a role at his previous 2 clubs. Treloar? Mmmm, he's been moved around a bit at the Doggies.
 
KinderSmock said:
Pick 62 is a very valuable pick. We could be missing out on the next player to have zero touches in a VFL game.
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Short of eating Daicos' dog there is nothing that Frampton could do now that wouldn't justify us using pick 62 on him.
 
ksardog said:
nah, you mentioned his number, not me
that was never my point, you introduced it
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Ok, let's just end this on that you think that Frampton nearly lost us a premiership and that basically nobody here agrees with you.
 
ElliottsMaggies said:
On that logic, all those players I mentioned must not be any good either. Grundy couldn't secure a ruck position at Pies or a ruck/forward role at the Dee's. Adams left us because he couldn't secure an inside mid role with us. Markov couldn't secure a role at his previous 2 clubs. Treloar? Mmmm, he's been moved around a bit at the Doggies.
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yeh, an all Australian ruckman
adams and Treloar played for how long in the midfield?
I gave you Markov

Frampton couldn’t make it as a forward at Port in 4 years
couldnt make it as a defender at Adelaide for 3 years
and is now a premiership player with no set position 👍
 

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ksardog said:
yeh, an all Australian ruckman
adams and Treloar played for how long in the midfield?
I gave you Markov

Frampton couldn’t make it as a forward at Port in 4 years
couldnt make it as a defender at Adelaide for 3 years
and is now a premiership player with no set position 👍
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Squads win flags. Frampton is testament to that mate. Hes not a forward, and not a star, nobody will argue he is. But he contributed to finishing top and winning the flag.
 
The Royal Sampler said:
So severely weakened that Frampton might play 10 consecutive games in defence?
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No I meant defence. He is not going to play in the forward line. He may have played a defensive forward role in the GF only because McStay was injured. I am thinking in terms of him replacing Murphy if he is unable to continue. Frampton is no Murphy though there will be games where he would be useful against gorilla forwards.
 
ksardog said:
yeh, an all Australian ruckman
adams and Treloar played for how long in the midfield?
I gave you Markov

Frampton couldn’t make it as a forward at Port in 4 years
couldnt make it as a defender at Adelaide for 3 years
and is now a premiership player with no set position 👍
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Oh my lord...I'm not comparing any players.

Your whole point was that Frampton is a dud because he's at his 3rd club.

I brought up the first 3-4 players that popped into my head who are also at their 3rd clubs.

So clearly, being at your 3rd club, means absolutely nothing. And doesn't prove your point.

Kind of funny though that the 2 players who most think/thought the least of...(Oleg & Bill) are the only ones in that whole group who are premiership players 😉
 
ElliottsMaggies said:
Oh my lord...I'm not comparing any players.

Your whole point was that Frampton is a dud because he's at his 3rd club.

I brought up the first 3-4 players that popped into my head who are also at their 3rd clubs.

So clearly, being at your 3rd club, means absolutely nothing. And doesn't prove your point.

Kind of funny though that the 2 players who most think/thought the least of...(Oleg & Bill) are the only ones in that whole group who are premiership players 😉
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No, you mentioned players that couldn’t hold positions, you failed to add that at least they held them for multiple years Previously. My point with Frampton was that he has never cemented a permanent stop in his career

you can be lucky though, he is a premiership player. All power to him
 
YouBeauty said:
You're not having the right discussion. Discuss the impact from Andrews, in particular the first 3 quarters.
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Other than the last quarter, Frampton was effective in his negating role against Andrews. But McStay will play CHF next year. We need someone to replace Murphy if he is out on doctor's orders. Frampton is not going to be that replacement, except when we play the likes of Richmond, Brisbane or Carlton, or when we need him to replace one of our ruckman. I'd hope that Begg might eventually prove to be a decent KPD ( but he first has to survive the cull this year).
 
Harry O said:
I think you are over looking or ignorant of how important Andrews interception is to setting up the whole Brisbane ball movement through the midfield
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im not, but when you get a chance to hurt that player on the scoreboard, you need to take it, he failed at this multiple times under no pressure, hence why I didn’t think he played at all well
 
TheGreatGrundy said:
Other than the last quarter, Frampton was effective in his negating role against Andrews. But McStay will play CHF next year. We need someone to replace Murphy if he is out on doctor's orders. Frampton is not going to be that replacement, except when we play the likes of Richmond, Brisbane or Carlton, or when we need him to replace one of our ruckman. I'd hope that Begg might eventually prove to be a decent KPD ( but he first has to survive the cull this year).
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if Dean gets his body right and is fit, and say Murphy is out, who plays key back, Dean or Frampton. Haven’t seen enough of Dean to know
 

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