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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Black Diamond AFL - 2010 season
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Northern_Swan
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I heard very similar with regards to the Killarney Vale V Cardiff Game last night. My spies also tell me that the ground was quite playable in the eyes of most 
But as was stated elsewhere, what the council says, goes. I wonder if it were a RL game though would it still be called off
I also understand that the previously rescheduled game between the Hawks and Gosford has been forefited by the Tigers and the League has still allowed them to fulfill the Reserve Grade fixture against Singleton
But as was stated elsewhere, what the council says, goes. I wonder if it were a RL game though would it still be called off I also understand that the previously rescheduled game between the Hawks and Gosford has been forefited by the Tigers and the League has still allowed them to fulfill the Reserve Grade fixture against Singleton
Interstate
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Good call Northern Swan - smacks of poor administration to me
Good call Northern Swan - smacks of poor administration to me
Yes there seems to be some strange decisions taken
. Look at what has happened this weekend. More games cancelled because of the wet weather. These may have some interesting consequences.Since the Warner's Bay game went ahead and they won this may now see Killarney Vale saying bye bye to a chance to grab 4th spot. Killarney Vale may live to regret their decision to cancel the game on Saturday with the Crows.
Likewise with Terrigal. I think they can now "kiss goodbye" any chance to make 2nd spot. With so much ridding on the result why did Terrigal decide to cancel the game??
Why did the BDAFL not look at (and insist) that the games be transferred to other venues which were available and playable?? I understand that a reserve grade game was played at Nelson Bay.
Why was not say the Terrigal v Newcastle game transferred to Nelson Bay to be played after the reserve game? Why did they not move the Killarney Vale game to Teralba, the Crows home ground. If Warner's Bay was playable as it is so close it would have probably been OK (at least playable)??
I would say that come the finals both Killarney Vale and Terrigal may regret the decisions they made this week end.
sexualninja
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Question is was it really the clubs that made the final call? or is the threat of ground repair payments required from the councils basically forcing them to can games when the surface has moisture applied???? Can anyone clarify exactly what is forcing the cancellation of matches?
It's getting beyond a joke now though. Wet weather cancellations used to be a domain of soccer only. League and Union still appear to play their matches and those codes do a lot more centralised damage to grounds.
As you've suggested River, the league need to indentify the grounds that can handle more moisture then give the clubs the required notice and let the game go on.
We're actually in a luxurious position having both Singleton and Nelson Bay grounds that both seem to handle wet weather OK but also are the least used grounds in the league. Perfect!
Example this week.....look at the weather forecast, use your common sense to realise that certain grounds will NOT dry out. Make a decision on Wednesday or Thursday informing clubs that the games will be transferred to a different ground.
Administration and management is lacking in a big way and the competition will suffer as a result.
BDAFL really need to learn from this year and ensure it doesnt happen again. With proper planning games can go ahead.
It's getting beyond a joke now though. Wet weather cancellations used to be a domain of soccer only. League and Union still appear to play their matches and those codes do a lot more centralised damage to grounds.
As you've suggested River, the league need to indentify the grounds that can handle more moisture then give the clubs the required notice and let the game go on.
We're actually in a luxurious position having both Singleton and Nelson Bay grounds that both seem to handle wet weather OK but also are the least used grounds in the league. Perfect!
Example this week.....look at the weather forecast, use your common sense to realise that certain grounds will NOT dry out. Make a decision on Wednesday or Thursday informing clubs that the games will be transferred to a different ground.
Administration and management is lacking in a big way and the competition will suffer as a result.
BDAFL really need to learn from this year and ensure it doesnt happen again. With proper planning games can go ahead.
The Wanderer
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Perhaps the answer to the problem is to play 14 rounds commencing a week earlier and forget giving clubs byes as was the case this year, this would give teams time to play the catch up games in the event of washed out matches.
The other option is to use Nelson Bay's ground and Singleton's ground to play catch up matches, bit of travel but if the competition is to survive, sacrifices have to be made, there may well have been other grounds that games could have been moved to as well but they must be investigated.
Because of the small number of games that some Clubs have played they must be entering the finals series with a lack of match fitness, which in itself is a problem paticularly with the injuries that could stem from it.
The other option is to use Nelson Bay's ground and Singleton's ground to play catch up matches, bit of travel but if the competition is to survive, sacrifices have to be made, there may well have been other grounds that games could have been moved to as well but they must be investigated.
Because of the small number of games that some Clubs have played they must be entering the finals series with a lack of match fitness, which in itself is a problem paticularly with the injuries that could stem from it.
For those that are interested I have some photos of the Warners Bay Vs Wyong mudball game from last Saturday
http://dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_Round_16/index.html
http://dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_Round_16/index.html
Great pictures Big Dave. You must be a keen football supporter to go to the effort to take these and put them on the site.
Its is clear that Warner's Bay don't have any of these "supposed issues" with the local council.
Makes you wonder, if other clubs had the courage to stand up to the councils and said NO to the ground closures, like Warner's Bay, we would not be having this discussion?
Its is clear that Warner's Bay don't have any of these "supposed issues" with the local council.
Makes you wonder, if other clubs had the courage to stand up to the councils and said NO to the ground closures, like Warner's Bay, we would not be having this discussion?
From the BDAFL web site:
" We certainly are not mind readers so we cannot predict if we will receive any further rain which if it does fall, could have a profound affect on the grounds this weekend.
But if you can believe the forecasters, then we should expect rain on Thursday and Friday.
In saying that the amount of rain the area received with the high winds today would no doubt close all the grounds to training this week and with Adcock Park, Don Small Oval and Teralba all in the mix for the last home and away round this weekend, we will leave the assumption of play to you.
Bill Elliott Oval is the other ground in contention and while it too does not suffer rain that well, it is the best of a bad lot.
And what if it does rain and the grounds are closed? Well the best that can happen is that the league gets on with the competition and moves into the finals.
Lets hope it doesn't rain for them. "
Looks like the BDAFL has raised the "surrender flag" already!!! Instead of just giving up, as you have suggested River, its only Tuesday.
Now is the time they should be seeking alternative grounds that can be used while there is plenty of time to make all the required arrangement's and clubs can do what needs to be done so we can have some football.
But then its hard to do when the GM is 1000kms away running another league???
Yes BDAFL, what is your "grand plan" should the rain continue and finals games are called off???
" We certainly are not mind readers so we cannot predict if we will receive any further rain which if it does fall, could have a profound affect on the grounds this weekend.
But if you can believe the forecasters, then we should expect rain on Thursday and Friday.
In saying that the amount of rain the area received with the high winds today would no doubt close all the grounds to training this week and with Adcock Park, Don Small Oval and Teralba all in the mix for the last home and away round this weekend, we will leave the assumption of play to you.
Bill Elliott Oval is the other ground in contention and while it too does not suffer rain that well, it is the best of a bad lot.
And what if it does rain and the grounds are closed? Well the best that can happen is that the league gets on with the competition and moves into the finals.
Lets hope it doesn't rain for them. "
Looks like the BDAFL has raised the "surrender flag" already!!! Instead of just giving up, as you have suggested River, its only Tuesday.
Now is the time they should be seeking alternative grounds that can be used while there is plenty of time to make all the required arrangement's and clubs can do what needs to be done so we can have some football.
But then its hard to do when the GM is 1000kms away running another league???
Yes BDAFL, what is your "grand plan" should the rain continue and finals games are called off???
BDAFL, just play the dam games!! This weather situation is a joke. What exactly do they have to lose, the grounds are not finals venues so they have an entire off season to recover!! The home teams should just do their best with any damage done and get on with the comp!! (bring on the good old days) No liability,or fines wouldnt it be great?
keyboard_warrior
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is it river or tardus that is in a run club with roger and has nothing to do with footy?? pay pretty close attention to the league anyways. good to see some supporters out there starting to get involved in the league
If Cardiff moved to Hawkins we wouldn't have so many dramas. I know it's out of the way for the Cardiff players no where near it in fact, but it's the best ground in the comp drainage wise, Wallsend juniors could've kept Bill Elliot to themselves. Hawkins could've been used for Cardiff home games and catch up games (Sundays, the league has done it before), but now it's lost to Hamilton Rugby which is a real shame because it holds so much of Newcastle's (Black Diamond) Aussie Rules history!
Northern_Swan
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If Cardiff moved to Hawkins we wouldn't have so many dramas.
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but now it's lost to Hamilton Rugby which is a real shame because it holds so much of Newcastle's (Black Diamond) Aussie Rules history!
Why don't City move back there, after all it used to be their ground
While we're at it, we should claim back Islington Oval, the Showground and Empire Park, all grounds that hold so much of Newcastle's Aussie Rules History Obviously you have no idea who Bill Elliott was or what he did for Australian Rules Football in Newcastle
But then who would play at Number 1? I like it how you snipped out the part where I said it was miles away from Cardiff, didn't even have to bait the hook!!!!
Just for the record I do know who Bill Elliot is, he was an old wooden ship, oh wait that was the Diversity!!!!!!
Just for the record I do know who Bill Elliot is, he was an old wooden ship, oh wait that was the Diversity!!!!!!
sexualninja
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The BDAFL definately should not have let Hawkins Oval go to Rugby. City invested lots of $$$$ in the club rooms at No.1, therefore they are entitled and would like to make use of the investment.
Even if Hawkins were to be used as a neutral ground it.....otherwise at the time when Cardiff were booted off Maneela and Wests werent in the comp??? (someone will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong) Hawkins would have been a good solution to the issue.
No doubt Hawkins was the best ground for aussie rules in the league. Good surface, great dimensions, good drainage.
Re Islington Oval, Empire Park, ICS aka Energy Australia Stadium etc etc..would be handy to have them back....would be handy to have Wallsend, Wests, Coalfields, Bateau Bay, Woy Woy, Maitland and Uni back in the comp also to use those grounds. Times have changed, in some ways the popularity of senior footy in the area has declined.
Point is Hawkins was the most recent ground that was let go by the league. It just so happened to be one of if not the best ground for footy in the region. Poor darts BDAFL.
Of course, where are the $$$ required to develop the change rooms to a decent standard and get some half decent lighting sorted?
That was a prime example of funding required by the big daddy AFL to help develop the game in the newcastle area....where's the love AFL???
Even if Hawkins were to be used as a neutral ground it.....otherwise at the time when Cardiff were booted off Maneela and Wests werent in the comp??? (someone will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong) Hawkins would have been a good solution to the issue.
No doubt Hawkins was the best ground for aussie rules in the league. Good surface, great dimensions, good drainage.
Re Islington Oval, Empire Park, ICS aka Energy Australia Stadium etc etc..would be handy to have them back....would be handy to have Wallsend, Wests, Coalfields, Bateau Bay, Woy Woy, Maitland and Uni back in the comp also to use those grounds. Times have changed, in some ways the popularity of senior footy in the area has declined.
Point is Hawkins was the most recent ground that was let go by the league. It just so happened to be one of if not the best ground for footy in the region. Poor darts BDAFL.
Of course, where are the $$$ required to develop the change rooms to a decent standard and get some half decent lighting sorted?
That was a prime example of funding required by the big daddy AFL to help develop the game in the newcastle area....where's the love AFL???
The results of todays games are in. It would appear that Warners Bay have taken 4th spot off Killarney Vale.
As I said recently. This may not have happened if Killarney Vale had played their game against the Crows.
Looks like they have paid the price for thier decision to cancel that game.
As I said recently. This may not have happened if Killarney Vale had played their game against the Crows.
Looks like they have paid the price for thier decision to cancel that game.
Some photos of yesterdays Cardiff Vs Killarney Vale game
http://dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_Round_17/index.html
Or all the 2010 games I managed to get to
http://dsfphotography.com.au/2010_BDAFL.htm
Does anyone know what sort of state Adelaide Street Oval is in for the finals ?
http://dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_Round_17/index.html
Or all the 2010 games I managed to get to
http://dsfphotography.com.au/2010_BDAFL.htm
Does anyone know what sort of state Adelaide Street Oval is in for the finals ?
sexualninja
Senior List
Season 2010 not that much dissimilar to 2009.
1sts almost identical to last year, albeit with a less dominate Terrigal. I wouldnt expect Warners Bay to get a thumping in the semi like last year.
The Peliminary final could be interesting though....especially if it's a wet day...or hang on....it'll be cancelled if there's some drizzle so there's a good chance whoever wins the major semi could win the comp by default. Either that or play the PF at Warners Bay.
Ressies again not too different. A no show by City all year is about the only difference. Not sure if Warners Bay will be up to the task against the other 3 sides though.
You'd think that unless there's some form of players flooding into the region that 2011 will be same old same old.
1sts almost identical to last year, albeit with a less dominate Terrigal. I wouldnt expect Warners Bay to get a thumping in the semi like last year.
The Peliminary final could be interesting though....especially if it's a wet day...or hang on....it'll be cancelled if there's some drizzle so there's a good chance whoever wins the major semi could win the comp by default. Either that or play the PF at Warners Bay.
Ressies again not too different. A no show by City all year is about the only difference. Not sure if Warners Bay will be up to the task against the other 3 sides though.
You'd think that unless there's some form of players flooding into the region that 2011 will be same old same old.
I'd be concerned a lot of players won't be back next year given the issues with missed games, some teams might lose the 4-6 blokes that make having 2 senior grades possible.
Interstate
Debutant
i suspect that West123 might be right - players are disgruntled and will leave clubs due to the lack of football and the second class nature of the code in the region
there are plenty of things that young blokes can do in this region other than afl - beach, girls, other sports - soccer, league, hockey, basketball, touch, golf etc etc etc
certainly $10 per head to get into bdafl finals will not help people coming to the football - people will not go or jump the fence - and they will not came back next year
even players from other clubs will not go to watch their potential opposition on the finals days due to the cost of entry
there are plenty of things that young blokes can do in this region other than afl - beach, girls, other sports - soccer, league, hockey, basketball, touch, golf etc etc etc
certainly $10 per head to get into bdafl finals will not help people coming to the football - people will not go or jump the fence - and they will not came back next year
even players from other clubs will not go to watch their potential opposition on the finals days due to the cost of entry
sexualninja
Senior List
yep, that's a possibility, players leaving the code. The BDAFL management need to have a look at where they want the game to go and think about what can be put in place to make it work.
At present it doesnt seem sustainable. Central Coast councils will continue to be precious on grounds. The top teams will stay up the top for a while to come and if anything more clubs will fold.
As for the gate takings. Clubs need to get any revenue they can but its a joke turning up especially down at adelaide st with the "massive crowd" and fantastic grandstand.
At No.1, again, save the heartache and count the pennies at the bar and canteen. The game is not a sell out and any passer by isnt going to fork out for entry.
It's high time that the clubs and league revise gate takings especially for the finals.
At present it doesnt seem sustainable. Central Coast councils will continue to be precious on grounds. The top teams will stay up the top for a while to come and if anything more clubs will fold.
As for the gate takings. Clubs need to get any revenue they can but its a joke turning up especially down at adelaide st with the "massive crowd" and fantastic grandstand.
At No.1, again, save the heartache and count the pennies at the bar and canteen. The game is not a sell out and any passer by isnt going to fork out for entry.
It's high time that the clubs and league revise gate takings especially for the finals.
Duck Billyworth
Debutant
The ads for the BDAFL on Prime have said all year that entry to games is free.
But the Lions Club has charged $3 for spectators all year at No.1. I wonder how many people rocked up to have a look at some local footy with their family/son/daughter and were put off by the charge or, probably more so, the misleading advertising.
But the Lions Club has charged $3 for spectators all year at No.1. I wonder how many people rocked up to have a look at some local footy with their family/son/daughter and were put off by the charge or, probably more so, the misleading advertising.
such_is_life_9
Senior List
Just wondering what everyones thoughts are on who will be in the team of the decade
Im assuming its based on those who represented the league...I would think the following:
Ben McMahon David Flynn, Shawn Simpson, Liam Gibson, Michael Ryan, Adam Clarke, Luke Orton, Mick Krake
Angus Darling, Maurice Goolagong, Peter Van Dam, David Grimmond, Chris Bishop
Clinton Austerburry, Dane Amidy, Patrick Schell
Jason Colloupus, Luke Rawnsley, Brendon McGrath
Dan Pederson, Ty Gallagher
Brendon Murchie
Any thoughts?
Also got the likes of
Troy Bayliss, Jackson Ireland who i dont think did represent the league
Ben McMahon David Flynn, Shawn Simpson, Liam Gibson, Michael Ryan, Adam Clarke, Luke Orton, Mick Krake
Angus Darling, Maurice Goolagong, Peter Van Dam, David Grimmond, Chris Bishop
Clinton Austerburry, Dane Amidy, Patrick Schell
Jason Colloupus, Luke Rawnsley, Brendon McGrath
Dan Pederson, Ty Gallagher
Brendon Murchie
Any thoughts?
Also got the likes of
Troy Bayliss, Jackson Ireland who i dont think did represent the league
I have some photos from the 1st Semi if anyone is ineterested (including a few from the last 1/4 of the ressies game)
http://www.dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_1st_Semi/index.html
http://www.dsfphotography.com.au/Gallery_photos/BDAFL_2010/2010_BDAFL_1st_Semi/index.html
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