Black Diamond AFL

[deitzy]

Pretty disappointing today about the situation with the games being called off, but as we all know you cant control the weather.
Were there any options for an alternate ground to be used at say Nelson Bay? Im not sure what the weather and conditions are like up there but Burwell Oval would surely stand up to the wet weather much better than No 1 does.
Now everything gets pushed back a week and speculation the GF could be played on a Sunday. Not too sure about that one. What would the impact be if the GF was to be played at Killarney Vale on the Saturday?
On the league medal night, was a pretty good night in my opinion. Rawnsley a deserved winner. One thing i fail to understand however is when sides get beat by big margins and can have 2 players in the votes, or a side gets beat by 160 points and a player gets the 3 votes. Sure they stand out getting kicks in a beaten side, but what impact are they having on the game when their side is getting thumped??? Just a personal opinion but one that has me bewildered every year.
Meanwhile Tardus, if you arent Roger Ill have a stab at it and say you are Lee.

 

[The Whisper05]

Deitzy, to move the games to Burwell Oval, Nelson Bay, would require the BDAFL to have a contingency plan. You only have one of them if you are an professional organisation. That is one thing the BDAFL has shown of late they are not.
How dare we think we can play a winter sport in the wet. Maybe we need the board from the Sydney Womens AFL to get on board. They're still running a kids gala day prior to their grand final today. It's amazing what can happen when football people show direction.

 

[Usingtheforce]

One thing i fail to understand however is when sides get beat by big margins and can have 2 players in the votes, or a side gets beat by 160 points and a player gets the 3 votes. Sure they stand out getting kicks in a beaten side, but what impact are they having on the game when their side is getting thumped??? Just a personal opinion but one that has me bewildered every year.

Have to agree Deitz, saw it happen in the voting for a few games in this years count. You beat a side by 100+ points and keep them to a low score and their play gets the 3 points. Sure everyone can see that the winning side would have 3 possibly 5 better players on the ground for the margin to blow out that much. Maybe a solution is to have a 3 - 2 - 1 set of votes from each field umpire. Hopefully then you may get a fair opinion of the game from 3 sets of votes. Currently i think the head umpire on the day does the votes and thats one opinion from one part of the ground on what one person sees or doesnt see?

 

[godoggies1]

Have to agree Deitz, saw it happen in the voting for a few games in this years count. You beat a side by 100+ points and keep them to a low score and their play gets the 3 points. Sure everyone can see that the winning side would have 3 possibly 5 better players on the ground for the margin to blow out that much. Maybe a solution is to have a 3 - 2 - 1 set of votes from each field umpire. Hopefully then you may get a fair opinion of the game from 3 sets of votes. Currently i think the head umpire on the day does the votes and thats one opinion from one part of the ground on what one person sees or doesnt see?

Firstly UTF bad luck on the Best Club Umpire award the other night, obviously WJ was absent from the board meeting that was decided in...

Also i wasnt the only one to notice that if u had put on a black mask u would have actually looked like darth vader!!!! would have been uncanny!!!!

 

[Mr Martini]

So the BDAFL couldn't organise another ground in time on friday afternoon despite the weather and forecast?

Obviously didn't think that Burwell or Hawkins Ovals were available for three games of footy?

Its not as though we're going to ruin the grounds as there is A) no footy going to be played there next week and B) no one needs to train on them next week either!

I would not be surprised if the "BDAFL" wasn't giving the extra week off so two of their key players (Ryan & Clarke) could be fit?


those are my thoughts

Cheers
Mr Martini

 

[MrB2]

So the BDAFL couldn't organise another ground in time on friday afternoon despite the weather and forecast?

Obviously didn't think that Burwell or Hawkins Ovals were available for three games of footy?

Its not as though we're going to ruin the grounds as there is A) no footy going to be played there next week and B) no one needs to train on them next week either!

I would not be surprised if the "BDAFL" wasn't giving the extra week off so two of their key players (Ryan & Clarke) could be fit?


those are my thoughts

Cheers
Mr Martini

How true Mr Martini,how true.Pity the BDAFL AKA CARDIFF is so BLATANT.

The game could not be moved to another ground,no GATE TAKINGS!!!!!!!

 

[Usingtheforce]

Firstly UTF bad luck on the Best Club Umpire award the other night, obviously WJ was absent from the board meeting that was decided in...

Also i wasnt the only one to notice that if u had put on a black mask u would have actually looked like darth vader!!!! would have been uncanny!!!!

How stupid is that comment godoggies, derrrr if anyone put on a darth vader mask they would give off a pretty good look alike, are you really that stupid??? and if you actually knew how this username came about and what it is actually having a dig and a go at, then you may have different ideas. Some people know what it means but it to complicated for your peanut brain to be able to work out.

 

[pp salsher]

and if you actually knew how this username came about and what it is actually having a dig and a go at, then you may have different ideas. Some people know what it means but it to complicated for your peanut brain to be able to work out.

Im guessing that a "force" is some kind of massive dildo??

ps.

Fat Mans Friend..... THAT is how you have a crack at Usingtheforce. Forget your personal insults. They're so lame, they're embarrassing.

 

[Usingtheforce]

Im guessing that a "force" is some kind of massive dildo??

ps.

Fat Mans Friend..... THAT is how you have a crack at Usingtheforce. Forget your personal insults. They're so lame, they're embarrassing.

Wouldn't expect any less of a comment like that from you Salsher. That would be about the only level of answer you could think of and the only category you would know about how to use hey.

Here let me help you, my username was a standing joke and a dig at umpiring decision that we all know occur and can't understand how or what they saw to make the decision. Some umpire freely admit off the record that some decisions were made on what they think might of happened to cause the ball or play to do that NOT what they actually saw happen, hence the term did u see that or are you Usingtheforce. Now is that simple enough for you to understand or is it not sexual enough for you to grasp hmmm

 

[weaglesman]

UTF, you are an idiot. You cannot go through a week without abusing someone. You carry on as if you are above the law however you constantly carry on with crap and embarrass your club. Having spoken to a number of people at Gosford they are of the opinion you are a cancer and the sooner you leave the club the better.
On to other things.
The postponement of games is ridiculous and a disgrace to a professional league. What was wrong with an alternate ground?
UTF are u a lesbian fan???

 

[Usingtheforce]

UTF, you are an idiot. You cannot go through a week without abusing someone. You carry on as if you are above the law however you constantly carry on with crap and embarrass your club. Having spoken to a number of people at Gosford they are of the opinion you are a cancer and the sooner you leave the club the better.
On to other things.
The postponement of games is ridiculous and a disgrace to a professional league. What was wrong with an alternate ground?
UTF are u a lesbian fan???

Interesting way to put things Weagles, "Above the Law" and a personal abuse seems that the pot calling the kettle black, and what or how did you come to the conclusion i was that type of fan?, seems a few and only a few of you guys have to revert this type of abuse just to think of something to say. Give you a little hint " Why dont you keep it on the footy hmmmm , that type of stuff just aint funny"

Oh by the way when you speak to the imaginary people at the club, tell em to come see me, or they can vote anyone out of the club.

 

[fatmansfriend]

interesting way to put things weagles, "above the law" and a personal abuse seems that the pot calling the kettle black, and what or how did you come to the conclusion i was that type of fan?, seems a few and only a few of you guys have to revert this type of abuse just to think of something to say. Give you a little hint " why dont you keep it on the footy hmmmm , that type of stuff just aint funny"

oh by the way when you speak to the imaginary people at the club, tell em to come see me, or they can vote anyone out of the club.

news flash.

Utf crashes car into telegraph pole.
Nobody cares.

 

[TheApeofDeath]

UTF

 

[WhereTheCrowFlies]

Still good to see the pea sized brains idiots want to continue sledging UTF instead of actually talking about the footy.

 

[pie_eater101]

utf...
could you please just stop retaliating to the posts on here. you defending yourself over and over again is really quite frustrating. sometimes just shutting up earns u some respect... only some.

but it would seem that every time i get on here, hoping there is a conversation about footy, there's ur name, with about 6 replies per page, all saying the same thing over and over. u have become the annoying brat.

what ever happened to that new thread that was devoted to sledging UTF? surely its still up and running.


footy stuff now,
im guessing the BDAFL postponed it rather than using another ground was for $$. other grounds such as burwell and hawkins arent enclosed so its harder to get people to pay etc. (even tho most jump the fence or pretend watching netball). what was everyone's tips by the way?

 

[The Whisper05]

footy stuff now,
im guessing the BDAFL postponed it rather than using another ground was for $$. other grounds such as burwell and hawkins arent enclosed so its harder to get people to pay etc. (even tho most jump the fence or pretend watching netball). what was everyone's tips by the way?[/quote]

No it wasn't a $$ thing, it was the fact that the organisation did not have a contingency plan. It just appears from the outside that the BDAFL board are batting out of their league.
The Newcastle Juniors managed to relocate their grand finals today to Burwell Oval, maybe they should be running the Senior league.

 

[pie_eater101]

No it wasn't a $$ thing, it was the fact that the organisation did not have a contingency plan. It just appears from the outside that the BDAFL board are batting out of their league.
The Newcastle Juniors managed to relocate their grand finals today to Burwell Oval, maybe they should be running the Senior league.

The BDAFL obviously need the money, because if they didn't they would have taken the same idea as the Newcastle Juniors. I don't think the Juniors charge too much for finals though do they???[/quote]

its a few things.. but majorly a money thing. this is when BDAFL make most of their money, and they arent about to let a whole finals day go by without some sort of profit.. otherwise they would have had alternative plan. however the only other ground that charges admissions is the KV ground... and not as many ppl would travel down to central coast as they would to NO.1 sportsground to watch bdafl finals series.

 

[MerkSaysWhat]

Great day to play football yesterday weather wise, wasn't it. Pity this wasn't allowed for in the planning. Pie eater is spot on abut the main criterium from the league being revenue, this was freely admitted to on the latest news article on the BDAFL website.

The website article also provides us with the interesting insight the primary focus of AFL in NSW is administration, football is just a byproduct.

 

[bdk1963]

footy stuff now,
im guessing the BDAFL postponed it rather than using another ground was for $$. other grounds such as burwell and hawkins arent enclosed so its harder to get people to pay etc. (even tho most jump the fence or pretend watching netball). what was everyone's tips by the way?

No it wasn't a $$ thing, it was the fact that the organisation did not have a contingency plan. It just appears from the outside that the BDAFL board are batting out of their league.
The Newcastle Juniors managed to relocate their grand finals today to Burwell Oval, maybe they should be running the Senior league.[/quote]

Great day at Dick Burwell Yesterday for Junior Grand Finals and Under 10's gala games! Ground in good condition - even the centre wicket...by the time Under 12's and 14's played at lunch time this area had dried out considerably.

The Nelson Bay Juniors tenedered to run the canteen and considering the rain Dick Burwell was offered on Saturday morning as an alternative venue for Sunday. The currator at No1 did not close the ground until late Saturday afternoon and at 5pm all games were tranferred. The Newcastle Juniors website also highlighted that there was potential for a change to Grand Final festivities late in the week. It was a credit to the Newcastle Juniors and all junior clubs that they were able to contact players coaches and supporters of the late change.

The Under 16 Grand Final is "planned" to go ahead this Friday night at No 1 after being postponed a week.....

 

[SidelineEye]

So the BDAFL couldn't organise another ground in time on friday afternoon despite the weather and forecast?

Obviously didn't think that Burwell or Hawkins Ovals were available for three games of footy?

Its not as though we're going to ruin the grounds as there is A) no footy going to be played there next week and B) no one needs to train on them next week either!

those are my thoughts

Cheers
Mr Martini

Newcastle Rugby Union semi finals were scheduled for Hawkins Oval on Saturday. These games were also washed out. There was no football (of any code) played in Newcastle on the day.

 

[swans12]

Its easy for the league to cop some flak, but I think the right decision was made.

After guys work all season, it shouldn't be a lottery. Games with conditions like the GF of a few years ago usually end up with one side getting to the front, closing it down and the conditions just dont allow a recovery.

Nelson Bay would have been a possible option I agree, but No1 is THE only place for finals football in my opinion, atmosphere, facilities, ground quality, not to mention financially for the league.

In fact I personally dont think Killarney Vale is even up to an acceptable standard, no parking, no seating, changerooms and toilets are crap, playing surface slopes down hill on one side and if its wet its an absolute shithole, so bring on Grand Final Day and ALL future finals at No 1 and lets see some footy not water polo.

That's my thoughts for what they are worth.

 

[2CENTS]

Its easy for the league to cop some flak, but I think the right decision was made.

After guys work all season, it shouldn't be a lottery. Games with conditions like the GF of a few years ago usually end up with one side getting to the front, closing it down and the conditions just dont allow a recovery.

Nelson Bay would have been a possible option I agree, but No1 is THE only place for finals football in my opinion, atmosphere, facilities, ground quality, not to mention financially for the league.

In fact I personally dont think Killarney Vale is even up to an acceptable standard, no parking, no seating, changerooms and toilets are crap, playing surface slopes down hill on one side and if its wet its an absolute shithole, so bring on Grand Final Day and ALL future finals at No 1 and lets see some footy not water polo.

That's my thoughts for what they are worth.

Have to disagree there-
i think no 1 is a fantastic venue for spectators and cricket.
the shape and length of the ground detracts from the game
much prefer a longer open ground , The surface ive always found very hard and slippery as well, not to mention the wicket.
i wouldnt bag out kvs ground to much except for the baseball mounds.
its been pretty good and isnt closed by greenkeepers at the hint of rain, and it doesnt have a pitch in the middle of it.

Any news out of the camps for the weekend ?

 

[swans12]

Have to disagree there-
i think no 1 is a fantastic venue for spectators and cricket.
the shape and length of the ground detracts from the game
much prefer a longer open ground , The surface ive always found very hard and slippery as well, not to mention the wicket.
i wouldnt bag out kvs ground to much except for the baseball mounds.
its been pretty good and isnt closed by greenkeepers at the hint of rain, and it doesnt have a pitch in the middle of it.

Any news out of the camps for the weekend ?

Its a forum, so you are entitled to your opinion and i will agree the wicket is a problem, but there are a heap of cricket grounds used for football around Aus and we just have to adapt to it as we do to the size and shape of any ground both sides play on.

The ground although wide I grant you, is not as short as some may think.

As for Killarney Vale, the debate isnt about the greenkeeper, its about the ground and facilities. They are substandard for a final in my opinion and as the showpiece, No 1 is the only way to go. Seating Shelter Parking and a showpiece of a ground. (as long as we can get on it)

 

[The Wanderer]

At last some people having some healthy debate, good to see, of course the grounds can be a problem, you just have to choose the best option, like all of the other codes did, postpone the round.

 

[Tardus]

From all the talk and discussion with the weather, it would appear that the BDAFL had no real choice but to take the path they did. Times have changed with insurance and duty of care issues these days.

The fact that all other codes followed a similar path just goes to show the extent of the situation and conditions. While the talk of moving to other grounds is interesting if other codes could not find suitable venues, why would the BDAFL be any different?

Anyway, it has happened and games are back on track and we should see a great conclusion to season 2008 over the next 2 weeks.