Bluemour Melting Pot XXI - Like seriously, the polar ice caps have got nothing on us

[jooce8891]

Like, joined together or stacked on top?

sorta like the human centipede

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

As long as Polson is on our list, as long as we are not certain of getting Papley and Martin and as long as Betts is still turning 34 next year then yes we should’ve still got him imo.

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KILDA!!!

How many more times do we have to go over this Butler stuff....he nominated his club of choice and got there. Why do we think he wanted to come to Carlton??

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

How do we get Martin with a pick so far down the order? Why wouldn’t he just go elsewhere after this mess ?

He wants to play with Eddie.

 

[GT619]

In summing everything up:

Papley - Contracted for another 3 years. Sydney wanted much more than pick 9. That’s way overs and SOS and crew didn’t buckle.

Martin - Gold Coast wanted a future 1st and 2nd round pick for an UN-CONTRACTED Martin and pick 15. This is for a bloke who once has had 30 touches and finished off the year in their reserves. Once again SOS and crew didn’t buckle and we will get him for next to nothing in the draft or PSD.

is there a possibility we look at sam gray, harley bennell etc

 

[Broadside]

Yep afl will not let us get him in PSD.

If that happens we need to test it in court.

 

[Funk]

Who is acting? I couldn't care less.

Papley was not worth #9. Martin was not worth a first rounder. End of story really.

We had fair values in mind and we stuck to them. Everyone talks about how SOS doesn't blink. He didn't.

This is about the club, not people getting their temporary high through trade entertainment.

100% spot on The Old Dark Navy's

 

[FRUMPY]

Yes - we should have taken Butler 3 days ago as insurance with Papley and Martin still on the boil.

IMHO - just because Martin is indigenous does not make him a small forward!

He is a half forward/wing/half back.

Papley can play the half forward/mid plus small forward.

Bookmark - butler won't be on an AFL list by start of 2023

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[cisco82]

Super harsh way to end 10 days of torture...

I'm banning myself from this thread for mental health reasons.


Love youz all , onwards and upwards .
Big 2020 coming up !!

 

[Stamos]

Yep afl will not let us get him in PSD.

How do you figure?

 

[RoyalParade]

Today wasn't the best result, but it wasn't the worst either.

We still have options.

I'm interested to see what we trade pick 9 for.

 

[GT619]

Thanks to all the ITK posters. Let's do this all again next year. signal on standby 12 months time.

 

[Kruezing]

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KILDA!!!

How many more times do we have to go over this Butler stuff....he nominated his club of choice and got there. Why do we think he wanted to come to Carlton??

Thank God someone gets it ...

 

[FRUMPY]

Bring on draft day now. I hope we take best available and not just a small forward because it’s what we need with pick 9

Agree completely. We need to draft a small forward but dime a dozen (betts preseason draft after no-one drafted him). Draft one with a later pick and a another with a rookie spot

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[kjr8]

Learn from the first year Saints guy, set a deadline and if not done move on... don’t wait till the last hour and expect multiple things to fall in line.

Who did the saints target, get a nomination, set a deadline and move on from?


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[Opine]

By Swans own admission, they did the very same thing that Essendon did, and did so for the very same reason. Both are either as good or as bad as each other as far as these trades were concerned.

Disaster for Blues: No deals for two top trade targets

Carlton has missed landing Sydney's Tom Papley and Gold Coast's Jack Martin on a frantic final day of trading

www.afl.com.au

"Tom was almost the flipside of the Joe discussion," Swans footy boss Charlie Gardiner said.
"As you know, Tom is an extremely valuable player. He was our leading goalkicker last year and, as a club, we weren't prepared to lose a player of his calibre without being able to replace him.
"Unfortunately, we weren't able to strike a deal that could see us replacing him, so we've held onto Tom...

 

[Blues_1864]

On the plus side, there is still a role for Cunners next year. Deluca might get to keep his spot on the list too.

I'd say so, considering that as of right now, we have 6 senior-list vacancies, and I'm pretty sure that wasn't the plan, draft hand or not. It will be interesting to see how our DFA pursuit turns out.

I'm not too worried about it, although I do wonder why, if Papley was such a good chance to never be available, how we went 10 days without a contingency plan. But Martin, no issue. Annoying that Gold Coast acquired enough AFL largesse to be able to afford to make a stand, but nothing to worry about.

But it does make me wonder (again) why it was so absolutely imperative to pull the trigger on Dale Thomas on day 1 of our post-season. If he was still on our list now (as he should be, plenty of time yet to delist him prior to list lodgement 1, if that was what we wanted at the end of the trade period), he'd be staying there, because he's a more appealing option than most of our remaining avenues to fill those 6 list spots.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Swans said differently after it all finished.

As did SOS. It’s pretty clear that we weren’t getting Papley unless they got Daniher.

 

[Metalcrusher]

from the teague train to the sos trainwreck, hard to believe we’ve stuffed this up so badly.


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Perhaps, quit your job, and offer a solution …. that post was utter tripe.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Swans said differently after it all finished.

Which we surely would’ve known before the public nomination when the trade period started.

There was a chance to chase other names with that pick. If SOS and co. thought there was no one else gettable with that pick that’d improve us then so be it. As long as they did their due diligence.

 

[GT619]

I’m sure will be back with vengeance next year

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

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KILDA!!!

How many more times do we have to go over this Butler stuff....he nominated his club of choice and got there. Why do we think he wanted to come to Carlton??

He was up for grabs for anyone really. We wouldn’t commit to him.

 

[kjr8]

Puts hand up as someone involved in commercial negotiations (it’s my job).

I’m happy no deal was going to be done for Papley if demand without Daniher trade was greater than pick 9.

But our key missing piece is a small forward besides a short term fix in Eddie.

My question are we getting a small forward this year that is better than Butler, to take the pressure off Eddie?

if the answer is no I’d be asking serious questions about SOS and Agresta’s strategy.

Also OR is there internal pressure on why we aren’t landing the big fish?

Wears #28




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[FRUMPY]

By Swans own admission, they did the very same thing that Essendon did, and did so for the very same reason.

Disaster for Blues: No deals for two top trade targets

Carlton has missed landing Sydney's Tom Papley and Gold Coast's Jack Martin on a frantic final day of trading

www.afl.com.au

"Tom was almost the flipside of the Joe discussion," Swans footy boss Charlie Gardiner said.
"As you know, Tom is an extremely valuable player. He was our leading goalkicker last year and, as a club, we weren't prepared to lose a player of his calibre without being able to replace him.
"Unfortunately, we weren't able to strike a deal that could see us replacing him, so we've held onto Tom...

No but someone else who doesn't know shit said he was available for pick 9..........

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[Funk]

Trade for players we don't want I presume

Some people need some trades to orgasm when watching the final 30 mins with their pants around their ankles haha

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Beautiful Frump.

I laughed

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

If that happens we need to test it in court.

The AFL don't want restraint of trade murmurings to get going. This whole draft set up is a house of cards. That's why uncontracted players are not forced to stay and why other clubs let them slide to the club they originally nominated.

I'm 75/25 that Martin will get to us if he goes into the PSD.

Hell, Gold Coast may even delist him now that they made their silly point.