Bluemour Melting Pot XXII

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It seems like Agresta was a yes man to Lloyd and Liddle

Or Agresta reported concerns about the running of the List Management team to the GM of Football and CEO, who then conducted a review of the department.

See how easy it is to just guess based on bugger all confirmed information.
 

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Ellis would have made great PR? Eddie does for sure, and of course Papley would have, he is exactly who we need. But Ellis? The best response you could have received from most Carlton supporters would have been “meh”.

Ellis = overpaid hack.

The whole Ellis saga seriously pisses me off.

$600K for 5 years for an average outside mid is exactly what Carlton did not need.
 
None of us know Liddle from a bar of shit.

We’ve all heard the rumours, from what I can gather sos supporters.

Everyone seems to be adding to the fuel that some itk and second rat journos think.

He is still in his role, how about we support the bloke rather than adding to the disunity.

SOS is gone, celebrate what he did and move on. Remember forever.

Liddle made a mistake by all accounts but does he deserve to be smashed like an avocado.

Like none of you/us ever made mistakes.

SOS is a hot head and we love him for it, if he or those close to him are leaking does that not damage the club? FFS his son is adding to it also, silly boy.

If we the supporters show unity and demand it from the club, maybe we can help change it from the outside.

I say good luck Liddle, help make carlton great again.

Partly agree/partly disagree.

FWIW I’ve made my share of f*** ups over the years.

But for Liddle to be offering Ellis big $ behind his highly respected & successful List Managers back is a serious screw up.

To then force the List Manager out (for “conflict of interest” reasons) rather than apologise and get on with life seems unforgivable.

I may change my view over time but at the moment it seems Liddle’s ego is over riding his brain.

Possibly to Carlton’s serious detriment.

PS - hope I’m wrong.
 
That’s one of the key points from the article. Liddle, Lloyd and agresta were aligned. Wasn’t liddle by himself.


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Lloyd highly rated by people in the AFL industry.

However Freo look a whole lot better since he left.

Maybe he and others overate him.

Interesting..........
 
Partly agree/partly disagree.

FWIW I’ve made my share of f*** ups over the years.

But for Liddle to be offering Ellis big $ behind his highly respected & successful List Managers back is a serious screw up.

To then force the List Manager out (for “conflict of interest” reasons) rather than apologise and get on with life seems unforgivable.

I may change my view over time but at the moment it seems Liddle’s ego is over riding his brain.

Possibly to Carlton’s serious detriment.

PS - hope I’m wrong.
This might not make people happy but I think it was a conflict of interest. That’s being honest. I think liddle was being honest. I respect SOS and I think he’s done a ****ing amazing job. Deserved of a statue. Lol (see main board page). He’s built a beautiful List with **** all resources. How many players have asked to leave Carlton? Not many.

BUT it will get to a point (with another son coming) that he will be forced to step away from decisions that the GLM should have a say on. Even secondary decisions like picking a general forward or KPD in future has implications on both Carlton and the sons of sos. He can’t be in that position. Liddle was right. The media are blowing this out of proportion and yes SOS is stubborn and he went down exactly how we excepted him too. Fighting for a list he believes in and getting the best for Carlton. The rest is just media bullshit. Just ignore it. When we cross 50,000 by Dec 10. The positivity will return. Wait till we beat richmond round 1.
 

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Lloyd highly rated by people in the AFL industry.

However Freo look a whole lot better since he left.

Maybe he and others overate him.

Interesting..........

Really? Good players are walking out on the club 2 seasons in a row. Not fringe players, top 10 players

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SOS has done the hard work.Next LM that comes in has a better working platform.Very interested to see exactly who it is.
I could kick it home from here ...
 
Or Agresta reported concerns about the running of the List Management team to the GM of Football and CEO, who then conducted a review of the department.

See how easy it is to just guess based on bugger all confirmed information.
I heard SOS stole Agresta's snack from the kitchen even though it was clearly labeled 'Aggys Apples'
 
Two-time premiership player, running defender.
And there is a bloke from the same team that is a Premiership player after one game, ffs. Doesn’t mean a lot.

Tom Lynch didn’t improve and went from being a fairly mediocre big bloke that could win when the physical odds were in his favour while captaining the worst team in the competition, to a Premiership player who bought balance and size to the side.

Sometimes being in the right place at the right time is better than being particularly good at what you do. Ellis will be remembered for his premiership medals, not his contribution.
 
Partly agree/partly disagree.

FWIW I’ve made my share of f*** ups over the years.

But for Liddle to be offering Ellis big $ behind his highly respected & successful List Managers back is a serious screw up.

To then force the List Manager out (for “conflict of interest” reasons) rather than apologise and get on with life seems unforgivable.

I may change my view over time but at the moment it seems Liddle’s ego is over riding his brain.

Possibly to Carlton’s serious detriment.

PS - hope I’m wrong.



He didn’t offer him big money. That’s why he’s not at Carlton.

People taking this thing way to far. Even Jake Niall said on 3AW that SOS would have been aware of the meeting with Ellis.


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Fair point.

But they were treading water for years.

3 x top 10 picks this year.

Freo seemed like a “soft touch” in previous years - not anymore.

Time will tell.

If Crippa walked out we’d have 3 just for him

The point is, they had those picks because the club is clearly not a great place to be at, which goes completely against what your initial post was about


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And there is a bloke from the same team that is a Premiership player after one game, ffs. Doesn’t mean a lot.

Tom Lynch didn’t improve and went from being a fairly mediocre big bloke that could win when the physical odds were in his favour while captaining the worst team in the competition, to a Premiership player who bought balance and size to the side.

Sometimes being in the right place at the right time is better than being particularly good at what you do. Ellis will be remembered for his premiership medals, not his contribution.

Jacob Townsend is a Premiership player.

DFA - lets get him........
 
Partly agree/partly disagree.

FWIW I’ve made my share of f*** ups over the years.

But for Liddle to be offering Ellis big $ behind his highly respected & successful List Managers back is a serious screw up.

To then force the List Manager out (for “conflict of interest” reasons) rather than apologise and get on with life seems unforgivable.

I may change my view over time but at the moment it seems Liddle’s ego is over riding his brain.

Possibly to Carlton’s serious detriment.

PS - hope I’m wrong.

That’s a lot of power for 1 bloke to have over the whole club.

In absence of facts we tend to tell ourselves stories.

Some may be true but often are not.
 
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