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If he'd chaird a white supremecy organisation would we be as casual about his appointment?

To many the views his chosen organisation supports are, whilst socially allowable, in conflict with the clubs views on inclusion. in terms of him leading the club and all its employees this should be a real consideration. Its not hard to project the women's side taking issue much of this for starters.

I agree with others he should publicly explain his opinion on women's right to decide and also homosexuality - just as a CEO would need to explain their view on race had they supported an organisation with strong views on race that were in conflict with those of the club. .
 
fairbump_playon said:
In my experience most people say and do most things in order to have something cool to discuss at a dinner party or on social media so they can get laid more.

Hashtag personalbrand hashtag authenticity.

Obviously it almost never works.. but still we try.

Oh the other reason we say and do stuff is to soothe and distract ourselves from the pain of not getting laid.

Obviously my commitment to BigFooty is driven by the latter.
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I come on here to escape my problems, not to be reminded of them.
 
CBombers17 said:
If he'd chaird a white supremecy organisation would we be as casual about his appointment?

To many the views his chosen organisation supports are, whilst socially allowable, in conflict with the clubs views on inclusion. in terms of him leading the club and all its employees this should be a real consideration. Its not hard to project the women's side taking issue much of this for starters.

I agree with others he should publicly explain his opinion on women's right to decide and also homosexuality - just as a CEO would need to explain their view on race had they supported an organisation with strong views on race that were in conflict with those of the club. .
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The core belief of an Anglican organisation and the core belief of a white supremacist organisation are just a touch different.
 

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Stopher said:
I'd be pretty *ed off if the club let's the mob run him out of town, purely because of his personal beliefs.
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It's day 1 of faux outrage, most things last usually a few days.

This time next week it will just be the usual big footy tragics continuing.
 
Mr Bultitude said:
Why don't you go to a service and find out?

Also, before I explode, he is NOT the leader of his church/head of his organisation. I really wish people would stop saying that. He's Anglican, you know who the "Head of the organisation" is? Charles lll, go have a chat with him.

Thorburn chairs the board of a local church. That's it. Board discussions are rarely theological. It's like the board of a local footy club.
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Of course he’s a leader of his church. What a stupid comment.
 
CBombers17 said:
If he'd chaird a white supremecy organisation would we be as casual about his appointment?

To many the views his chosen organisation supports are, whilst socially allowable, in conflict with the clubs views on inclusion. in terms of him leading the club and all its employees this should be a real consideration. Its not hard to project the women's side taking issue much of this for starters.

I agree with others he should publicly explain his opinion on women's right to decide and also homosexuality - just as a CEO would need to explain their view on race had they supported an organisation with strong views on race that were in conflict with those of the club. .
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As long as he doesn't go all Margeret Court and keeps his opinions out of the club affairs is it any different to other people's religious beliefs across the league that preach the same hate?
 
Lore said:
How many people here looked up all the managers and executive team at a prospective employer, called them personally and asked them about their particular beliefs on sinfulness, bodily autonomy, family planning, and the right to partake in sexual activities with a consenting person of their choosing before deciding whether they felt comfortable working there?

Like literally no one I'm pretty sure. You might look up their inclusion policies, you'd be happy to see inclusive employer awards on the reception desk, and the little pride flag sticker on the window next to the aboriginal and torres strait flags proclaiming an inclusive employer. But personally interrogating the personal beliefs of senior management? I highly doubt it.
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Until the ambulance chasers start writing clickbait, and then the outrage begins. Up till then people blissfully accept those people without doing any groundwork at all.
 
CBombers17 said:
I agree with others he should publicly explain his opinion on women's right to decide and also homosexuality - just as a CEO would need to explain their view on race had they supported an organisation with strong views on race that were in conflict with those of the club. .
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On this basis you seem to be paranoid that he's going to come in as CEO of the football club and;

  1. Coerce every employee/player from being openly gay
  2. Coerce every employee/player from practicing abortion
All of which his track record has shown he's never done in any CEO capacity before.

And it's hilarious.
 
fairbump_playon said:
In my experience most people say and do most things in order to have something cool to discuss at a dinner party or on social media so they can get laid more.

Hashtag personalbrand hashtag authenticity.

Obviously it almost never works.. but still we try.

Oh the other reason we say and do stuff is to soothe and distract ourselves from the pain of not getting laid.

Obviously my commitment to BigFooty is driven by the latter.
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I doubt 95% of the population would even feign an interest in these issues if they couldn't go on social media to foam at the mouth and tell everyone what a good person they are for caring about these issues
 
owen87 said:
I never thought I'd see the day where I agree with the Cake, but here we are.
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Call Me Cake said:
I've just recieved word that Lloyd can't have vodka cruisers any more.

It's, reportedly, quote; "too gay." End quote.

More to be announced.
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After a brief disturbance in the force everything seems to be back to normal... :p
 
Call Me Cake said:
How did we go from the heat on Clarko for (allegedly) telling people to abort - to a CEO that would never abort.

You can't make this stuff up.
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recency
clicks
15m "news" cycle

it's not old either.
Hawks could do us a solid now and bow out of the Bowes talks (pun thoroughly intended)

until then, come on Jeff. Say something (else) stupid
 

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Call Me Cake said:
Your point stands on a notion that he's taken a job at the Mardi Gras, or the National LGBT Association.

His primary role at such a "job" is running a sporting club and making sure it runs efficiently. Treating people who are LGBT with respect is literally a side-focus in such a role. As long as he doesn't go out and outright ban gay people from buying memberships or puts measures in place to make the lives of gay people harder then he is well adjusted to his job and run the club.

Like it or not, there are going to be religious people in all companies and industries where the main role isn't based on gay topics.

Like it or not, in every facet of life you are going to have people who hold personal rules for their own self while not actively getting in the way of other people.

Like it or not, people are not always going to agree on everything - but most do not let it get in the way of them getting along.

Like it or not, religion is 2,000 years old and isn't going anywhere. Homosexuality is going no where. One will not overcome the other - which isn't the point of tolerance/inclusion anyway.

And P.S my comment on paranoia was in relation to a paranoia that his views from a church is going to be used to actively coerce the prevention of gay inclusion at Essendon. Which is as stupid as a paranoia that a trans advocate will cause more trans people. Enough.
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You're cherry picking one small aspect of my text.

I don't have a problem with him in the role. We can all suck it up and do things we don't believe in.

I just think it must be a weird experience for him (personally) to lead a massive diversity program over at NAB while also leading a super conservative church actively working against diversity goals. (And yes I know they weren't concurrent roles). I don't think this really stops him doing his job... I'm just trying to work out how he manages the cognitive dissonance.

To take it out of the religious & footy context.. it's the equivalent of him Chairing the board of the Fossil Fuels Forever Foundation, while also implementing a massive renewables agenda as CEO of one of Australia's biggest businesses.

Sure - it can be done.. but I'm curious as to how actually feels about it all.

Like does he actually believe in renewables & global warming, and just do the Fossil Fuels Forever thing because he has mates there - or is it the opposite way around?
 
Lore said:
How many people here looked up all the managers and executive team at a prospective employer, called them personally and asked them about their particular beliefs on sinfulness, bodily autonomy, family planning, and the right to partake in sexual activities with a consenting person of their choosing before deciding whether they felt comfortable working there?

Like literally no one I'm pretty sure. You might look up their inclusion policies, you'd be happy to see inclusive employer awards on the reception desk, and the little pride flag sticker on the window next to the aboriginal and torres strait flags proclaiming an inclusive employer. But personally interrogating the personal beliefs of senior management? I highly doubt it.
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I will go one step further. How many have looked into the products they use every day . Who owns them. Who runs them. etc.
 
Call Me Cake said:
On this basis you seem to be paranoid that he's going to come in as CEO of the football club and;

  1. Coerce every employee/player from being openly gay
  2. Coerce every employee/player from practicing abortion
All of which his track record has shown he's never done in any CEO capacity before.

And it's hilarious.
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Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying.
 
Call Me Cake said:
How did we go from the heat on Clarko for (allegedly) telling people to abort - to a CEO that would never abort.
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That's a very good question isn't it. Also, interesting the premier makes a comment when elections are coming up next month. Never waste an opportunity to gather a few votes.
 
Call Me Cake said:
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It is as I have agreed with you too.
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Mr Bultitude said:
Why don't you go to a service and find out?

Also, before I explode, he is NOT the leader of his church/head of his organisation. I really wish people would stop saying that. He's Anglican, you know who the "Head of the organisation" is? Charles lll, go have a chat with him.

Thorburn chairs the board of a local church. That's it. Board discussions are rarely theological. It's like the board of a local footy club.
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Exactly .
 

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