Club Mgmt. Board of Directors as led by President Dave Barham

[BrunoV]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Just another idiot doubling down on delusion.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Your point stands on a notion that he's taken a job at the Mardi Gras, or the National LGBT Association.

His primary role at such a "job" is running a sporting club and making sure it runs efficiently. Treating people who are LGBT with respect is literally a side-focus in such a role. As long as he doesn't go out and outright ban gay people from buying memberships or puts measures in place to make the lives of gay people harder then he is well adjusted to his job and run the club.

Like it or not, there are going to be religious people in all companies and industries where the main role isn't based on gay topics.

Like it or not, in every facet of life you are going to have people who hold personal rules for their own self while not actively getting in the way of other people.

Like it or not, people are not always going to agree on everything - but most do not let it get in the way of them getting along.

Like it or not, religion is 2,000 years old and isn't going anywhere. Homosexuality is going no where. One will not overcome the other - which isn't the point of tolerance/inclusion anyway.

And P.S my comment on paranoia was in relation to a paranoia that his views from a church is going to be used to actively coerce the prevention of gay inclusion at Essendon. Which is as stupid as a paranoia that a trans advocate will cause more trans people. Enough.

You're cherry picking one small aspect of my text.

I don't have a problem with him in the role. We can all suck it up and do things we don't believe in.

I just think it must be a weird experience for him (personally) to lead a massive diversity program over at NAB while also leading a super conservative church actively working against diversity goals. (And yes I know they weren't concurrent roles). I don't think this really stops him doing his job... I'm just trying to work out how he manages the cognitive dissonance.

To take it out of the religious & footy context.. it's the equivalent of him Chairing the board of the Fossil Fuels Forever Foundation, while also implementing a massive renewables agenda as CEO of one of Australia's biggest businesses.

Sure - it can be done.. but I'm curious as to how actually feels about it all.

Like does he actually believe in renewables & global warming, and just do the Fossil Fuels Forever thing because he has mates there - or is it the opposite way around?

 

[Mikevk123]

More Corpos running Essendon. All about money.

 

[ant555]

How many people here looked up all the managers and executive team at a prospective employer, called them personally and asked them about their particular beliefs on sinfulness, bodily autonomy, family planning, and the right to partake in sexual activities with a consenting person of their choosing before deciding whether they felt comfortable working there?

Like literally no one I'm pretty sure. You might look up their inclusion policies, you'd be happy to see inclusive employer awards on the reception desk, and the little pride flag sticker on the window next to the aboriginal and torres strait flags proclaiming an inclusive employer. But personally interrogating the personal beliefs of senior management? I highly doubt it.

I will go one step further. How many have looked into the products they use every day . Who owns them. Who runs them. etc.

 

[CBombers17]

On this basis you seem to be paranoid that he's going to come in as CEO of the football club and;

1. Coerce every employee/player from being openly gay
2. Coerce every employee/player from practicing abortion

All of which his track record has shown he's never done in any CEO capacity before.

And it's hilarious.

Yeah that's exactly what I'm saying.

 

[Nifft]

How did we go from the heat on Clarko for (allegedly) telling people to abort - to a CEO that would never abort.

That's a very good question isn't it. Also, interesting the premier makes a comment when elections are coming up next month. Never waste an opportunity to gather a few votes.

 

[ant555]

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This is the true sign of the apocalypse

It is as I have agreed with you too.

 

[Mootsy]

More Corpos running Essendon. All about money.

you say it like its a bad thing

 

[ant555]

Why don't you go to a service and find out?

Also, before I explode, he is NOT the leader of his church/head of his organisation. I really wish people would stop saying that. He's Anglican, you know who the "Head of the organisation" is? Charles lll, go have a chat with him.

Thorburn chairs the board of a local church. That's it. Board discussions are rarely theological. It's like the board of a local footy club.

Exactly .

 

[Vander18]

I think Lore nailed it;

Great…make it happen. Pronto!

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

More Corpos running Essendon. All about money.

Kind of an important part of the CEO job mate.

Unless you're comfortable becoming the next North Melbourne

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

LOL, he's resigned.

Shortest welcome ever.

Lore thread title update and moved to Essendon History?

 

[Taylor]

He quit

 

[ant555]

If he'd chaird a white supremecy organisation would we be as casual about his appointment?

To many the views his chosen organisation supports are, whilst socially allowable, in conflict with the clubs views on inclusion. in terms of him leading the club and all its employees this should be a real consideration. Its not hard to project the women's side taking issue much of this for starters.

I agree with others he should publicly explain his opinion on women's right to decide and also homosexuality - just as a CEO would need to explain their view on race had they supported an organisation with strong views on race that were in conflict with those of the club. .

Well I guess my days on here are numbered if this is the view of posters.

 

[Seb78]

 

[jmoo wan]

the new CEO was meant to bring us all together… instead it’s tearing us apart!

 

[Saint]

It feels a lot like you want to hang the guy for - potentially - not sharing the same views you share, despite no public statements, actions, or measures indicating he is anything other than an inclusive person in a professional setting.

He's the head of a homophobic organisation, that's an action and a statement. When asked, his answers were not "I don't believe that" it was
"i haven't heard that since I've been here"
"some people have different views".

It would have taken two seconds for him to say "I don't hold those views". But he didn't. That omission says plenty to me.

It could be over in 2 seconds. And no, I don't want somebody with those beliefs leading my club.

If he was advocating wife beating or slavery (also literal interpretations of the bible) or stoning adulterers would we be having this conversation?

Society has moved on from tolerating certain types of poor behaviour. It sounds like you've just drawn the line in a different place than I have. Don't pretend your morals don't have any impact on the way you view people.

 

[CBombers17]

We are Australia's Tory party

 

[carnthedons]

He's the head of a homophobic organisation, that's an action and a statement. When asked, his answers were not "I don't believe that" it was
"i haven't heard that since I've been here"
"some people have different views".

It would have taken two seconds for him to say "I don't hold those views". But he didn't. That omission says plenty to me.

It could be over in 2 seconds. And no, I don't want somebody with those beliefs leading my club.

If he was advocating wife beating or slavery (also literal interpretations of the bible) or stoning adulterers would we be having this conversation?

Society has moved on from tolerating certain types of poor behaviour. It sounds like you've just drawn the line in a different place than I have. Don't pretend your morals don't have any impact on the way you view people.

This and appropriate username too

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Ha ha ha ha ha haha

Fmd

 

[frodos gardener]

 

[Saint]

Can we double check the next CEO isn't a homophobe or racist please? Find something less topical maybe.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I think we should move the witch hunt to the cause of all the problems at Essendon.

 

[dank420_]

Welcome Andrew, go bombers.

 

[dank420_]

wait

 

[brutus76]

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