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i don’t recall saying “thank-you?”

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Pastor is a hypocrite = truth.

Would I appoint such a hypocrite to CEO of the EFC? No.

A football club has morals reflective of its membership, unlike churches which have no morals (or whichever morals they're choosing at that point in time).

If the church-goers don't mind their pastor being a hypocrite, that's fine by me. But as an EFC member, I have a problem with the CEO being a hypocrite or a bigot.
Very well said, I applaud you sir.
 
What comes up when you do that, or if you'd done it 48 hours ago at least?

Like a linked in profile that links to a church, how far you gonna dig beyond that to see whether it has a sermon you don't like?

They’ve ****ed up here. This is experienced board members appointing a CEO, not the cafe manager choosing a new milk supplier.

It’s simple due diligence - he’s gonna be a senior leader, what is he affiliated with (now and previously) and let’s research that for possible PR issues. Take a day or two for any red flags.

The media and others found it in 10 minutes.

What it really shows up is what a joke of a process this was. It’s pretty clear Thorburn is just a mate of Barham or somebody else and was given the job. No due diligence cos they already “knew him”.

It just beggars belief.
 
I can see the optics is not great but sametime pandering to a noisy 3% of the Australia wide population is pathetic. Just the way the world has gone, it's turned to shit. This is like the Mainly jersey. All a beat up!
Meantime we have real world problems with NK firing a missile over Japan today, russia prepping to test a nuke in coming days, GBP about to collapse, SE America devastated by a cyclone and most of europe about to freeze to death this winter and starve. Yeah let's get all worked up about what people do in the private of their homes.
Wake the **** up people, so ****ing selfish and ignorant of reality. Oh well let the peasants have their brains entertained with BS and I'll quietly relax knowing I've stacked silver/gold and squared away all debt waiting for the collapse and being somewhat relaxed knowing the flood is coming like Noah and tried to help as many as I could before it happens.
Anyways lets hope EFC sign Bowes lol.
 

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What comes up when you do that, or if you'd done it 48 hours ago at least?

Like a linked in profile that links to a church, how far you gonna dig beyond that to see whether it has a sermon you don't like?
Yesterday it came up with the leaders page of city on a hill.

Google the church, you get the sermons and positions criticising the sermons.

2 Google searches isn't unreasonable.
 
The irony was not lost about the HUN beating up the story about homophobia and such while its biggest star is Andrew Bolt
I don’t understand your link here. Why have you brought up Andrew Bolt? Can you reference a single thing he has said that is homophobic? I assume you’re just a typical “go-with-the-flow” lefty who has been told that Andrew Bolt is Satan and has just decided to believe it, but I’m actually serious when I ask you - what has he said that is homophonic? I’ve read him for years and don’t recall a single thing.
 
Pastor is a hypocrite = truth.

Would I appoint such a hypocrite to CEO of the EFC? No.

A football club has morals reflective of its membership, unlike churches which have no morals (or whichever morals they're choosing at that point in time).

If the church-goers don't mind their pastor being a hypocrite, that's fine by me. But as an EFC member, I have a problem with the CEO being a hypocrite or a bigot.
How do you know the pastor isn’t working internally to drive change within his church?
 
I can see the optics is not great but sametime pandering to a noisy 3% of the Australia wide population is pathetic. Just the way the world has gone, it's turned to s**t. This is like the Mainly jersey. All a beat up!
Meantime we have real world problems with NK firing a missile over Japan today, russia prepping to test a nuke in coming days, GBP about to collapse, SE America devastated by a cyclone and most of europe about to freeze to death this winter and starve. Yeah let's get all worked up about what people do in the private of their homes.
Wake the * up people, so ******* selfish and ignorant of reality. Oh well let the peasants have their brains entertained with BS and I'll quietly relax knowing I've stacked silver/gold and squared away all debt waiting for the collapse and being somewhat relaxed knowing the flood is coming like Noah and tried to help as many as I could before it happens.
Anyways lets hope EFC sign Bowes lol.
Lay off the cans dude, it's not even 7pm.
 
I can see the optics is not great but sametime pandering to a noisy 3% of the Australia wide population is pathetic. Just the way the world has gone, it's turned to s**t. This is like the Mainly jersey. All a beat up!
Meantime we have real world problems with NK firing a missile over Japan today, russia prepping to test a nuke in coming days, GBP about to collapse, SE America devastated by a cyclone and most of europe about to freeze to death this winter and starve. Yeah let's get all worked up about what people do in the private of their homes.
Wake the * up people, so ******* selfish and ignorant of reality. Oh well let the peasants have their brains entertained with BS and I'll quietly relax knowing I've stacked silver/gold and squared away all debt waiting for the collapse and being somewhat relaxed knowing the flood is coming like Noah and tried to help as many as I could before it happens.
Anyways lets hope EFC sign Bowes lol.
 
Lets merge with North. Their hatred for Essendon wouldn't be as bad as what some of the factions at Essendon feel about each other.

We're both a rabble.

The cream on the cake is that Brad Scott is still coaching north after being sacked by them.

**** Tassie. We can be sponsored by QANTAS as a combo of Kangas and aeroplanes, and relocate to King Island. I think if we combine the Essendon and North lists we should be able to make finals in the King Island league.
 
This one is tricky, it is against Victorian law to discriminate against candidates for any lawful religious belief and you are not meant to question them on such matters.

You're not even meant to look online about people (even though we know places do).

While this looks extremely bad, you could argue a complete, lawful and non-discriminatory recruitment process was completed.

But anyway, I don't really care enough to argue for the Essendon management on this
Is being chair of any church enough to nope it? Coz that part is on his linked in profile and is probably discrimination.

If it's this specific church, and specifically a 2013 sermon buried back on their website, is that old sermon enough to exclude him from the process?

Or do you do your due diligence and establish whether the person, regardless of their religious affiliation, is the most qualified person to do the job?
I fully understand the tricky nature of discriminating against applicants.

My issue is that the current state of this club is such that entertaining the idea in the first place was always going to lead to more controversy and signs of ineptitude from its leaders. He comes from a background of overseeing dodgy banking practices which would be enough to give you reservations to begin with. Im sure that a switched-on board would use its values as way of steering around the appointment of someone affiliated with a known discriminatory institution like City on a Hill.
 
What comes up when you do that, or if you'd done it 48 hours ago at least?

Like a linked in profile that links to a church, how far you gonna dig beyond that to see whether it has a sermon you don't like?

If you're doing so in the name of due diligence, you probably spend more than two clicks digging.

This is a **** up. There is no defending the club here.
 
I fully understand the tricky nature of discriminating against applicants.

My issue is that the current state of this club is such that entertaining the idea in the first place was always going to lead to more controversy and signs of ineptitude from its leaders. He comes from a background of overseeing dodgy banking practices which would be enough to give you reservations to begin with. Im sure that a switched-on board would use its values as way of steering around the appointment of someone affiliated with a known discriminatory institution like City on a Hill.
Every high level banker is dodgy. That's why the world is imploding now. You dont get into them positions unless you are! Its just a matter of how well you cover your tracks.
 

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