Family & Relationships Bravery

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a lot of people (usually bored and dissatisfied people) have a hero complex where they fantasise about themselves being an action hero in situations like the ones in the OP. the truth is that the overwhelming majority of us won't meet death in the form of a gun-wielding maniac, or a runaway train that is about to hit a mother and her baby unless we intervene, no,

I can sit here and talk about how i'd react in such and such situation but I have surprised myself so many times in life already with the way i've reacted to certain events, both in good and bad ways, so I can't really say how i'd be in a high pressure situation. we are all JuST leaves being blown down a driveway by the winds of destiny.
 

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We all like to think we'd do the brave/honourable thing when placed in certain situations but the reality is we don't know how we'd react if actually faced with a decision that places the safety of others above personal survival

I mean I'd love to be able to say that I'd be the hero that takes down the gunman to save the day when it may well be that I'd be cowering in a corner hoping someone else gets shot
 
I think the older I get the more I learn about myself. From being one who would most likely freeze and do nothing , I am now confident I would make an attempt to talk to the person. Whether its grumpy old man syndrome , where I don't give a flying about myself ,I do care when someone interrupts my world. I have learned that bullies will back down when confronted.
 

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MEB_ said:
I've been in a couple of fight or flight situations. When someone else is in trouble I've gone into fight mode, but when it was just me in danger I froze. It's scary how you have no control over your actions.
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My mother is petrified of spiders yet my dad related a story where she walked towards a spider on one of our kids pillows and brushed it off with her hand then stepped on it.

So this idea of protecting others while freezing for yourself is very common.
 
GG.exe said:
If all hell breaks loose in society due to war starting, or looting and violence, I think people (especially men) are far weaker this last generation than previous generations. Too pampered, too metro, too soft, too PC, etc, to do brave things. From time to time, I see an unusual situation occur in a public setting, some weird crazy guy is yelling and verbally abusing women, or a tough looking or terrorist looking guy is hanging around, or like two or three teen males are following a young girl, or some lone man is being pushed around by a thug, etc....and the men around me (most of the younger ones) do nothing, look away, even get up and move far away so they're not potentially involved etc.

I think men who have gone thru adversity, physical hardship, like myself, and perhaps even have a "fck it, my life is fcked anyway" sense of self, like myself, have a greater propensity to be more chivalrous/brave.
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Isn't looting a current generational thing anyway?

I think the generation who grew up between 1980 and now (Gen X) have created this type of self indulgent crap thats then becomes all about them. Meaning when 'All hell breaks loose', they don't ask how can i help, they say - whats in it for me and what can i et for free.

Therefore, I agree with this. Boys and young adults these days are not real mean. They are soft and just precious.

I ask a genuine question - how many 20 something men these days show chivalry and patience for other people?
 
GG.exe said:
True.

Compare LA riots (East LA underprivileged, tough), any British soccer/etc riot with those underclass skinhead louts, any Eastern European riot or weekly skinhead underclass brawl versus gangs.....to Cronulla riots.

Australian men are mostly well-to-do, there's no real ghetto here, Australia for 60+ years safe and civil. Or even compare the teen louts from middle-class suburbs versus teen louts from lower-class suburbs in Melbourne, Sydney, etc.
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In comparison to some overseas places, no but we still have plenty of people who live below the poverty line and IMO that come back to that lazy self indulgent nature men have created for their family.

They collect centrelink and are happy to live day to day for a packet of smokes and a beer rather than set their kids on the right track by setting a positive example. To use your topic starter, they are not brave enough to accept getting their hands dirty and doing some hard work they deem below them.
 
GG.exe said:
Very good observation too. There are no real "community leaders", trying to outreach to the disgruntled youth. They do it just as a job, but clock off. Look how many cases in Australia of abused children still getting abused/etc, because that system is failing -- the outreach/community leadership by strong underprivileged men.
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This could be an entire thread on its own GG as this is a huge bag of worms. From the system to analyse who becomes a guardian of an abused child to the mentor and community leader. Its happening in our community but not all cultures embrace that type of leadership.

GG.exe said:
Zero
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Zero is a bit harsh but the percentage wouldn't be much higher.
 
GG.exe said:
This thread can continue to delve into that bag of worms. Seeing as we're here now, talking about it.
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Oh yeah for sure. My point was, thats a huge issue alone.

Kids don't know how to be 'brave' as thery have very few examples in their lives. From home to school to sporting clubs.

How many kids go from reception to year 7 and only have a female teacher? No dad at home, no man at school who can set a positive example. It doesn't happen as much as it used to.

Also, men these days are affraid to associate with kids outside of their own family due to any accusation of abuse that can easilly be made.
 

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