Updated Bruce Lehrmann * Justice Lee - "Mr Lehrmann r*ped Ms Higgins."

[Kurve]

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[Lady O]

Jury dismissed!!

 

[BFew]

 

[annawinter608]

What the actual **** found it’s way into the jury room?


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[BFew]

 

[BFew]

Research Material?

Main stream or social media material (or both)?

 

[BFew]

Retrial or Prosecution will drop the case?

Brittany Higgins cries as she lashes out at her accused rapist

Brittany Higgins has broken down in tears outside court as she launches a scathing attack on the justice system and her accused rapist, former Liberal staffer Bruce Lehrmann.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'The jury has been discharged in the case of Brittany Higgins' accused rapist Bruce Lehrmann on the seventh day of deliberations - after a juror brought material into the jury room.

Chief Justice Lucy McCallum told the ACT Supreme jury on Thursday morning: 'It has come to my attention that one of you has undertaken research in relation to issues in the case and that material has entered the jury room which ought not to have.

'I have heard an explanation and it may be that no harm has been done but that is not a risk I can take. I have discharged that juror and I have to discharge you all.

'Can I please convey to you my sincerest gratitude to the hard work you've done in this trial.

'With those remarks, you're discharged and you are free to leave.''

 

[tandino]

Clearly printouts of this thread.

Great job, you moron.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

wow..........what a fizzer

this is the problems with jurys, they also can include the dumbest of us.

How does this work now? Mistrial?

 

[Wooden Robot]

Almost impossible to prosecute this case.

 

[BFew]

Maybe offer the Prosecution the option of a behind closed doors retrial by Jury in 2023?

I think Higgins will walk away from here.

And Lehrmann can bugger off to the US for Xmas.

 

[BFew]

So no-one wins this thread's poll.

As the jury was out for over a week, but they never came back, when the trial process was aborted today.

 

[FIGJAM]

I think Higgins will walk away from here.

I think the prosecution dropping it would be in her interest, as without the additional information sourced, there's enough reasonable doubt IMHO on this single case's evidence alone.

With the additional information though...

 

[fs88]

Absolute amateur hour. You can see why there is so much crime in Australia where you get a slap on the wrist most of the time and on the off chance you get prosecuted, it's a very generous jail term.

 

[FRUMPY]

in a way i dont really blame the juror if they just wanted out after being made to sit down and not come to an agreement day after day and no end in sight.

(if thats why they did it)

 

[spike101]

I think the prosecution dropping it would be in her interest, as without the additional information sourced, there's enough reasonable doubt IMHO on this single case's evidence alone.

With the additional information though...

There has been media saturation for the last few weeks, how difficult would it be to empanel a new objective jury?

 

[BFew]

Lehrmann granted bail until 20 Feb 2023.
Retrial date 23 Feb 2023.
At least one juror was naughty. 'At least one' is now being reported.

 

[Wooden Robot]

in a way i dont really blame the juror if they just wanted out after being made to sit down and not come to an agreement day after day and no end in sight.

(if thats why they did it)

Not out of the realms of possibility.
It was clearly, from the little bits we knew, never going to be resolved no matter how many weeks or months they were given.

The one thing I have learned is life is people are predictable.
Someone will always go outside and do the wrong thing.

 

[FIGJAM]

There has been media saturation for the last few weeks, how difficult would it be to empanel a new objective jury?

Pretty much impossible, particularly given you know that there is 'something' out there to search for.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

What the actual * found it’s way into the jury room?


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Because, like, none of them took any notice of social media, and left their prejudices outside the courtroom, and deliberated only on the evidence presented. Of course they did.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Lehrmann granted bail until 20 Feb 2023.
Retrial date 23 Feb 2023.
At least one juror was naughty. 'At least one' is now being reported.

If the juror(s) in question has (have) knowingly broken with regulations (it's hard to think how the juror(s) would be ignorant) then they should do some jail time.

The amount of resource that has been devoted to this, not to mention the anguish for all concerned should lead to some sort of very stiff penalty. It makes a mockery out of our legal system.

 

[BFew]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/not-a-risk-i-can-take-jury-in-bruce-lehrmann-trial-thrown-out-after-misconduct/news-story/87aee112c7e6ffaba7e3e53f8f5d5778

'... Justice McCallum told the court there had been an allegation of misconduct directed toward one juror before closing the court and questioning that juror.

Minutes later, Justice McCallum with “regret” ruled a mistrial.

Brittany Higgins walked out of the ACT Supreme Court in tears on Thursday after a mistrial was declared. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

She told the media that one of the ACT Supreme Court sheriffs had accidentally bumped a clear plastic folder of information from a chair while cleaning inside the jury room on Wednesday afternoon.

The folder contained documents given to the jury through the trial.

But, the court heard, the sheriff noticed an academic journal paper relating to sexual assault.

The subject of the paper, Justice McCallum said, was about the prevalence and reasons of false sexual assault complaints.

“I have heard an explanation, and it may be that no harm has been done, but that is not a risk I can take,” she told the jury.

In the circumstances, Ms McCallum said, she had to discharge that juror and then the entire jury.

“This is not due to the inability on their part to reach a unanimous verdict,” she said.

“At the time they were discharged they were still deliberating … instead the jury has been discharged because I have been given cogent evidence that at least one juror has been given access to research material.”
“It is beyond question that the conduct of the jury is as such to abort the trial. Both counsel … agree with my decision in that respect,” she added.

“It should go without saying that this is both an unexpected and an unfortunate outcome in this trial.”

One juror swore under their breath and put a hand to their head as the judge announced they could not continue.

Ms Higgins, who was in the courtroom with her partner David Sharaz for the ruling, left on the brink of tears while the chief justice read her reasoning.
...'

 

[FRUMPY]

It was going to be a hung jury anyway and prosecutors obviously were going to go again - this just hastened it by a few days i guess

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/not-a-risk-i-can-take-jury-in-bruce-lehrmann-trial-thrown-out-after-misconduct/news-story/87aee112c7e6ffaba7e3e53f8f5d5778

'... Justice McCallum told the court there had been an allegation of misconduct directed toward one juror before closing the court and questioning that juror.

Minutes later, Justice McCallum with “regret” ruled a mistrial.

Brittany Higgins walked out of the ACT Supreme Court in tears on Thursday after a mistrial was declared. Picture: NCA NewsWire / Gary Ramage

She told the media that one of the ACT Supreme Court sheriffs had accidentally bumped a clear plastic folder of information from a chair while cleaning inside the jury room on Wednesday afternoon.

The folder contained documents given to the jury through the trial.

But, the court heard, the sheriff noticed an academic journal paper relating to sexual assault.

The subject of the paper, Justice McCallum said, was about the prevalence and reasons of false sexual assault complaints.

“I have heard an explanation, and it may be that no harm has been done, but that is not a risk I can take,” she told the jury.

In the circumstances, Ms McCallum said, she had to discharge that juror and then the entire jury.

“This is not due to the inability on their part to reach a unanimous verdict,” she said.

“At the time they were discharged they were still deliberating … instead the jury has been discharged because I have been given cogent evidence that at least one juror has been given access to research material.”
“It is beyond question that the conduct of the jury is as such to abort the trial. Both counsel … agree with my decision in that respect,” she added.

“It should go without saying that this is both an unexpected and an unfortunate outcome in this trial.”

One juror swore under their breath and put a hand to their head as the judge announced they could not continue.

Ms Higgins, who was in the courtroom with her partner David Sharaz for the ruling, left on the brink of tears while the chief justice read her reasoning.
...'

Jesus f***ing Christ.

You cannot tell me that the jury is not in full understanding of what they are allowed to do and what they are not, including what materials can be in the jury room.

What has this cost?

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Almost impossible to prosecute this case.

Yes, there has been too much noise, too much politics, to be ignored. Nobody can avoid it, including 12 random members of the community. Social and other media are destroying the jury system.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

The problem with people who play the right v left card, as you do, is they fail to consider there is every likelihood of there being some left wing 'nut job' as you call them, who went into the courtroom convinced of guilt and checked out through the evidence and testimony and has voted accordingly.
But you are okay with that?
For every 'nut job' on one side, there's an equal number on the other side.
This whole trial is a lesson in all that is wrong about left v right, which, face it, has ruined most things in life.
I dare say, had Miss Higgins simply went to the police and hospital first up, we wouldn't be sitting here today and Mr Lehrmann (and I'm not saying he did it or didn't) would be a year through a 12 or 14-year sentence. It would likely (again not saying if he's guilty or not) an open-shut case.
But all of them ... ALL of them ... Reynolds, Cash, Loopy Lisa Wilkinson and her hubby, boyfriend Sharaz, even the security guards, have put their own interests and political interests ahead of justice and truth.
Politics in Australia is corrupt - like most countries - and it isn't limited to one side or one side of supporters. It's a pity.
I have no time for anyone who declares some political figure - past or present - as their hero.

It seems I was right. Some rwnj brought in their own research even though they were told 17 times not to.
'The court heard the juror had brought in a research paper on sexual assault, which attempted to quantify the number of false complaints and interrogate the reasons for making false complaints'.
This juror was looking for reasons for a not guilty verdict and probably a Liberal voter who read the Daily Mail.