Updated Bruce Lehrmann Pt2 * Reynolds Defamation Trial Current

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1

Historical Rape Allegation Against Fmr AG Christian Porter
The Alexander Matters matters

Just a reminder, this is the crime board and we need to be aware that there will be victims of crime either watching this thread or engaging in here from time to time. A degree of respect in all discussions is expected.

LINK TO TIMELINE
CJS INQUIRY
FINAL REPORT – BOARD OF INQUIRY – CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
Joint media statement – Chief Minister and Attorney-General



FIONA BROWN - AFFIDAVIT

 

[Zing13]

Reynolds is now demanding orders voiding and reversing that transfer (of Higgins money), claiming she is a creditor of Higgins.

Reynolds launches fresh pursuit of Higgins’ trust as defamation trial draws to close

Liberal senator Linda Reynolds has levelled a fresh lawsuit against Brittany Higgins and the entity helming the trust established to safeguard the former staffer’s multimillion-dollar payout.

www.watoday.com.au

Wow what a piece of work.... She really needs to take herself to court over defamation of her image at this point

 

[MPMonkeys]

I pity Kurve in this thread as there are still unreconstructed neanderthals promoting or implying their narrative that it was all Higgin's fault because she was dressed inappropriately, drunk or not lying back and thinking of Australia (or the Coalition).

This is just your projection.

 

[jason_recliner]

Reynolds is now demanding orders voiding and reversing that transfer (of Higgins money), claiming she is a creditor of Higgins.

Reynolds launches fresh pursuit of Higgins’ trust as defamation trial draws to close

Liberal senator Linda Reynolds has levelled a fresh lawsuit against Brittany Higgins and the entity helming the trust established to safeguard the former staffer’s multimillion-dollar payout.

www.watoday.com.au

Yeah, I wouldn't trust ('scuse the pun!) her to pay up, either!

 

[Kurve]

Yeah, I wouldn't trust ('scuse the pun!) her to pay up, either.

Most of Higgins's money, is in her own hands. Reynolds looks particularly grabby and seeming to show a vindictiveness that has no limits.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Well. I suppose you think that is a good laugh that you continue to besmirch an alleged sexual assault victim ?

If you were sexually assualted in your work place by a supervisor in one of thmost secure work environments and a core symbol of Australia you don't believe that the Commonwealth of Australia should not provide you with Workplace compensation?

How much do Curches, school's or other big businesses pay out for sexual assault? They are largely hidden by NDA's

This is akin to a drunk employee using his/her access card to enter their place of employment after work and then falling over and hurting themselves.
Should the workplace be sued in that scenario?

They were not in the office for work purposes, it was not during office hours, none of their superiors knew they were there and it was against policy for them to be there.
As much as you want to blame Reynolds, it is not her fault. Unless you are implying that she gave BL a nudge and wink to use her office for nefarious purposes.

 

[big_e]

Reynolds is now demanding orders voiding and reversing that transfer (of Higgins money), claiming she is a creditor of Higgins.

Reynolds launches fresh pursuit of Higgins’ trust as defamation trial draws to close

Liberal senator Linda Reynolds has levelled a fresh lawsuit against Brittany Higgins and the entity helming the trust established to safeguard the former staffer’s multimillion-dollar payout.

www.watoday.com.au

If it was the money paid to her, that she then put into a trust, and the trust deed says she is entitled to take it out again, then what's the problem?

Linda Reynolds isn't owed a damned thing by Brittany Higgins, this seems preposterous.

 

[Kurve]

Leanne Close

Couch cleaning 'unusual'​

Alarm bells had also been sounded in her mind by the fact that she had been told the couch had been steam cleaned since the alleged rape.

"That, to me, was unusual, and that there may have been some sort of DNA type material available if it had been reported to the AFP in a timely way before it was cleaned," she said.

Ms Close was called to the stand by Ms Higgins's lawyer Rachael Young SC, who wanted to question her in relation to the meeting she had with Senator Reynolds and her chief of staff Fiona Brown.

Fresh lawsuit against Brittany Higgins launched by Linda Reynolds amid defamation dispute

The Brittany Higgins and Linda Reynolds defamation trial hears revelations lawyers have launched another lawsuit against Ms Higgins which attempts to make access to her federal government settlement easier.

www.abc.net.au

 

[jason_recliner]

Most of Higgins's money, is in her own hands. Reynolds looks particularly grabby and seeming to show a vindictiveness that has no limits.

Is it? The linked article implies otherwise: The trust was established to protect $2.4 million in compensation... I read on here she's claimed she has $10k in assets and her husband is bankrupt. I think it's a sound move having been defamed and being hopeful of a finding in one's favour - not vindictive or "grabby". The alternative would be to spend (hundreds of?) thousands on a defamation case and hope the defamer has sufficient integrity to own their behaviour and pay up.

If Brittany had just said "You know what, I was traumatised, I was angry, I blamed and lashed out at some who didn't deserve it, I see that now and I'm sorry" (and probably handed some of the millions back), I think this all could have been avoided.

 

[Kurve]

Is it? The linked article implies otherwise: The trust was established to protect $2.4 million in compensation... I read on here she's claimed she has $10k in assets and her husband is bankrupt. I think it's a sound move having been defamed and being hopeful of a finding in one's favour - not vindictive or "grabby".

The article specifically says a substantial amount was transferred directly to Higgins.

You don't think it's grabby when Reynolds presents as a creditor before a decision has been made ....... hmm

 

[jason_recliner]

This is akin to a drunk employee using his/her access card to enter their place of employment after work and then falling over and hurting themselves.
Should the workplace be sued in that scenario?

They were not in the office for work purposes, it was not during office hours, none of their superiors knew they were there and it was against policy for them to be there.
As much as you want to blame Reynolds, it is not her fault. Unless you are implying that she gave BL a nudge and wink to use her office for nefarious purposes.

Not really. There was no 'blow zero' policy and they were provided access by security. PH was not a safe workplace and Higgins was harmed as a result.

 

[jason_recliner]

The article specifically says a substantial amount was transferred directly to Higgins.

Yes, as a trustee.

You don't think it's grabby when Reynolds presents as a creditor before a decision has been made ....... hmm

It's funny, I was having lunch just now and wondering what Higgins would do if she loses, and wondered if she'd maybe 'lose' at the casino and be left with a substantial amount of chips, and be unable to pay up.

You think Reynolds is being grabby. I think immediately hiding millions in public funds behind legal financial constructs then moving to France is an unusual (and not good-looking) move for somebody who knows they rightfully and legally deserve their gains.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

So Reynolds has been lying all along?

 

[Festerz]

So Reynolds has been lying all along?

No according to a couple of posters in here she isn't.

They'd believe Reynolds and her dodgy lawyer over a well respected former AFP Commissioner any day of the week.

 

[Kurve]

You think Reynolds is being grabby. I think immediately hiding away behind legal financial constructs millions in public funds then moving to France is an unusual (and not good-looking) move for somebody who knows they rightfully and legally deserve their gains.

Moving to France hasn't helped her, there's better places to set up house if the intention is to protect your money.

 

[jason_recliner]

Moving to France hasn't helped her, there's better places to set up house if the intention is to protect your money.

It's more complex, slower and more expensive to run civil action against somebody in another country, and to force them to pay out.

 

[campbell]

If it was the money paid to her, that she then put into a trust, and the trust deed says she is entitled to take it out again, then what's the problem?

Linda Reynolds isn't owed a damned thing by Brittany Higgins, this seems preposterous.

imo, I believe it shows a mean cruel streak.

 

[campbell]

Moving to France hasn't helped her, there's better places to set up house if the intention is to protect your money.

maybe,just maybe, BH, wanted to leave Australia, and all the memories behind.

Start afresh in a new country.

 

[Lady O]

imo, I believe it shows a mean cruel streak.

Higgins is saying that even if Reynolds wins the defamation case, then she (Higgins) only has $10,000.

 

[Festerz]

You think Reynolds is being grabby. I think immediately hiding millions in public funds behind legal financial constructs then moving to France is an unusual (and not good-looking) move for somebody who knows they rightfully and legally deserve their gains.

I tell you what's not a good look.

Is that you fail to understand why a young woman who has been r*ped in her boss's office, the nation's Parliament ffs, and dragged through court twice to prove it, including by her accused rapist and who has been shamed and vilified on the front pages of the national newspaper by a politically aligned feature writer who was and still is being provided with leaked personal documents would have reason to seek to live the rest of her life with her partner and child in another country?

Unbelievably grabby take.

 

[Kurve]

imo, I believe it shows a mean cruel streak.

I agree. This is who she is and if Higgins felt that Reynolds hated her, she was probably right.

 

[Kurve]

I read on here she's claimed she has $10k in assets and her husband is bankrupt.

Sorry, you read it in this thread or in an article?

 

[jason_recliner]

I tell you what's not a good look.

Is that you fail to understand why a young woman who has been r*ped in her boss's office, the nation's Parliament ffs, and dragged through court twice to prove it, including by her accused rapist and who has been shamed and vilified on the front pages of the national newspaper by a politically aligned feature writer who was and still is being provided with leaked personal documents would have reason to seek to live the rest of her life with her partner and child in another country?

Except I didn't say that.

 

[jason_recliner]

Sorry, you read it in this thread or in an article?

This thread, perhaps sourced from here:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/art...o-brittany-higgins-24m-trust-documents-ntwnfb

Sharaz's "bankruptcy" claim appears to be incorrect comprehension:

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...efamation-trial-current.1380204/post-84958416

perhaps after misreading this:

https://www.news.com.au/national/co...t/news-story/4484f5793413fc8d38e45cfd73939c25

 

[Kurve]

This thread, perhaps sourced from here:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/art...o-brittany-higgins-24m-trust-documents-ntwnfb

Probably referring to accessible cash, I'm sure she's got more than that tied up in her house in France.

 

[DapperDon]

It's more complex, slower and more expensive to run civil action against somebody in another country, and to force them to pay out.

Do you think Reynold has no other monies other than her house? please, she would have millions hidden like all pollies.