C F Orr Stakes Day

[footyman]

Not a bad day of racing on Saturday...

5- C.F. ORR STAKES 1400 M
Of $302000 Of $300000 and $2000 trophy. 1st $180000 and trophy of $2000, 2nd $54000, 3rd $27000, 4th $13500, 5th $7500, 6th $6000, 7th $6000, 8th $6000. Starter Subsidy: $150 for non-prize earning runners. Standard Weight for Age. (GROUP 1). No allowances for apprentices. Field Limit: 16+3 EM
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1 AQUA D'AMORE Gai Waterhouse
2 BELMONTE Bernie Howlett
3 CASUAL PASS Mathew Ellerton
4 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) Colin Little
5 GALLANT GURU Lee Freedman
6 HARADASUN Tony Vasil
7 HONOR IN WAR (USA) Danny O'Brien
8 KING OF ASHFORD (NZ) Lee Freedman
9 MARASCO Fred Kersley
10 MISS FINLAND David Hayes
11 NICONERO David Hayes
12 POMPEII RULER Mick Price
13 RED DAZZLER Mick Price
14 SEACHANGE (NZ) Ralph Manning
15 TAWQEET (USA) David Hayes

 

[Ron]

Wow what a field. If only Efficient was running, it'd be like my dream race.
Shame Maybe Better didn't decide to run, i heard it was going to.


I think this is the race where we finally see the El Segundo is the premier race horse in this country, i truly believe it will blitz that field.

 

[bbco49]

unfortunately wont be seeing haradasun take on this strong field, he'll be running in the listed wellington racing club stakes against his own age group

 

[Lockyer24]

Harada will be carrying 59kgs in that race! Not sure what would be worse the 59 kgs in that race or a gutbuster with less weight in the Orr.

El Segundo is the obvious pick - but Im leaning towards Pompeii Ruler - ran a massive race to win first up last time (and won a trial easily before that also)
so I think it might be up to it.

Miss Finland should measure up and get close.

Seachange from NZ is a very honest mare and ran 2nd over there the other week so should be fairly fit and be able to put in a handy run also.

 

[PLSC]

lol at seachange

who was that jockey that fell asleep when it was in front with 100m to go and lost the race what an idiot

go marasco

 

[nicho_magic]

wow what a race.... pitty i'm playing cricket... will definetely get down to the tab tho.

 

[bluey17]

The final field has been released for Saturday's Group One $302,000 CF Orr Stakes (1400m) at Caulfield.

01 TAWQEET (USA) (David Hayes) Dwayne Dunn (3) 59
02 HONOR IN WAR (USA) (Danny O'Brien) Steven Arnold (10) 59
03 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) (Colin Little) Damien Oliver (4) 59
04 CASUAL PASS (Mathew Ellerton) Nash Rawiller (6) 59
05 NICONERO (David Hayes) Brad Rawiller (1) 59
06 POMPEII RULER (Mick Price) Craig Newitt (9) 59
07 GALLANT GURU (Lee Freedman) Corey Brown (7) 59
08 MARASCO (Fred Kersley) Greg Childs (11) 59
09 AQUA D'AMORE (Gai Waterhouse) Stephen Baster (8) 56.5
10 SEACHANGE (NZ) (Ralph Manning) Michael Rodd (5) 56.5
11 MISS FINLAND (David Hayes) Craig Williams (2) 53

Awesome field. Very excited about Marascos first start over east. Barrier 11 shouldn't be too bad, will drop out to the back of the field. Here's hoping he gets a good run and really comes home strong. GO MARASCO!

 

[Bloods]

Miss Finland and Pompeii Ruler will be getting my money.

 

[- PC -]

The final field has been released for Saturday's Group One $302,000 CF Orr Stakes (1400m) at Caulfield.

01 TAWQEET (USA) (David Hayes) Dwayne Dunn (3) 59
02 HONOR IN WAR (USA) (Danny O'Brien) Steven Arnold (10) 59
03 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) (Colin Little) Damien Oliver (4) 59
04 CASUAL PASS (Mathew Ellerton) Nash Rawiller (6) 59
05 NICONERO (David Hayes) Brad Rawiller (1) 59
06 POMPEII RULER (Mick Price) Craig Newitt (9) 59
07 GALLANT GURU (Lee Freedman) Corey Brown (7) 59
08 MARASCO (Fred Kersley) Greg Childs (11) 59
09 AQUA D'AMORE (Gai Waterhouse) Stephen Baster (8) 56.5
10 SEACHANGE (NZ) (Ralph Manning) Michael Rodd (5) 56.5
11 MISS FINLAND (David Hayes) Craig Williams (2) 53

Awesome field. Very excited about Marascos first start over east. Barrier 11 shouldn't be too bad, will drop out to the back of the field. Here's hoping he gets a good run and really comes home strong. GO MARASCO!

Top field

Really make a case for most in there

You would think the 59 hurts Marasco , but then the rest have 59 as well ( apart from the bottom 3)

That then brings Miss Finland into calculations. You would skip Tawqeet for now and see where he is before plunging, El Segundo stands out as the best of the lot,cant go past Casual pass or Niconero, Marasco will have my money though

Lets hope he can pull it off

 

[Im The Gun]

1 AQUA D'AMORE - Huge prep last time, was IMO a little over done in the end but Waterhouses horse all go well fresh

2 BELMONTE - No idea on this one

3 CASUAL PASS - would have been an out and out champion if not always on the side lines, goes very well fresh and wouldn't shock me if he won

4 EL SEGUNDO (NZ) - Australia's best horse, huge win but aided by champion ride last time, Going as well as ever and loves the track, who ever beats him wins

5 GALLANT GURU - out classed in this

6 HARADASUN - Still not sure what to think about his first up run, beat a poor lot but did it 3 wide. 3 year olds have a awesome record in this but will start unders thanks to the hype

7 HONOR IN WAR (USA) - went into the Cox Plate way under done, trainer is a freak but look for later on in something like the BMW

8 KING OF ASHFORD (NZ) - Out classed

9 MARASCO - Has a lot of Northerly about him but not yet good enough to knock off these

10 MISS FINLAND - Best 3 year old I've seen and this could be a walk in park, Hayes will have had the work put into her first a huge first up run, Only danger to El.

11 NICONERO - hasn't got the class

12 POMPEII RULER - Wouldn't shock me if he won, all class and huge run in Cox Plate, Will have a huge prep

13 RED DAZZLER - Under rated and could run a place

14 SEACHANGE (NZ) - No hope

15 TAWQEET (USA) - About 1000m too short, although did win over 1600m last prep

 

[sethlad]

10 MISS FINLAND - Best 3 year old I've seen and this could be a walk in park,

Wow,this is a statement & a half,best 3yo youve seen including the colts?

seth

 

[a_peterson05]

Watched Aqua D'Amore and Belmonte trial in the same race on TVN, Baster got Aqua to the front in the trial and didnt really get it going in the straight but still won with Belmonte running directly behind it tracking every move and kept up very well.

I like El Segundo, think he is in peak condition after his start at the MV night meeting. Will wind up and run over the top of these.

I am potting Miss Finland, although has bugger all weight dont think she measures anywhere near the aged horses in this race.

 

[HeLMie]

Watched Aqua D'Amore and Belmonte trial in the same race on TVN, Baster got Aqua to the front in the trial and didnt really get it going in the straight but still won with Belmonte running directly behind it tracking every move and kept up very well.

I like El Segundo, think he is in peak condition after his start at the MV night meeting. Will wind up and run over the top of these.

I am potting Miss Finland, although has bugger all weight dont think she measures anywhere near the aged horses in this race.

What are you offering buddy???

 

[a_peterson05]

What are you offering buddy???

Im an out of pocket North Melbourne supporter like yourself so i cant offer anything the TAB cant!

 

[sethlad]

You keen HeLMie,what price you after?
IMO she's around a $4.50 chance

seth

 

[Ricketts]

Hope to see Pompeii win. Not sure if i'll back him this time though, might wait for another race.

 

[HeLMie]

You keen HeLMie,what price you after?
IMO she's around a $4.50 chance

seth

I like her chances, but i wasnt serious...

 

[sethlad]

You bet too big for me anyway HeLMie.
I hope she runs well,its about time a 3yo filly went on.

seth

 

[Im The Gun]

10 MISS FINLAND - Best 3 year old I've seen and this could be a walk in park,

Wow,this is a statement & a half,best 3yo youve seen including the colts?

seth

Would have have the Cox Plate walking in if not for the worst ride I've ever seen around the Valley.
So good that the only thing thats ever beaten her has been on her back - Bad rides

 

[sethlad]

Even though she's only ever beaten 3yo's.
Better than Red Anchor who toyed with a Cox Plate field at 3?
Better than Octagonal who also won at MV at 3?

This is gunna be a very interesting campaign for her.
I've had the "should have won the CP" discussion here,may have been unlucky,quite a few were but had 46kg & she didnt weigh in.
They all meet her way better at the weights now,interesting to see how wound up they all are.

seth

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

So good that the only thing thats ever beaten her has been on her back - Bad rides

Haradasun should have beaten her, but for Williams superior ride.
Haradasun should be undefeated but for Bad Rides.

 

[Ron]

Haradasun should have beaten her, but for Williams superior ride.
Haradasun should be undefeated but for Bad Rides.

I wish Haradasun was running in this race, just for the fact it would not even run a place and finally people can stop talking about the most over-rated horse in Australia.

 

[SaintsSupporter]

I wish Haradasun was running in this race, just for the fact it would not even run a place and finally people can stop talking about the most over-rated horse in Australia.

The fact that he would have beaten Miss Finland still remains.

 

[Ron]

The fact that he would have beaten Miss Finland still remains.

The fact is that he didn't.
Hindsight and hypotheticals are an amazing thing but count for ******** all on the track, and the record shows that it was Miss Finland 1st, Haradasun 2nd.

 

[go fullta]

Even though she's only ever beaten 3yo's.
Better than Red Anchor who toyed with a Cox Plate field at 3?
Better than Octagonal who also won at MV at 3?

This is gunna be a very interesting campaign for her.
I've had the "should have won the CP" discussion here,may have been unlucky,quite a few were but had 46kg & she didnt weigh in.
They all meet her way better at the weights now,interesting to see how wound up they all are.

seth

all you do is criticize seth and point out errors.what have you got against miss finland?

i cant wait until saturday when miss finland runs, and wins.she is a super racehorse and it will only be a matter of time before she becomes a star. 6kg is enough of a weight difference, to let dominate.

tell me how many 3yr old fillies that are that versatile that they can win from 1000m-2500m at the elite level??

red anchor and octagonals are geldings/entires so your point is irrelevant!!!